Hmm there are no clear rules on HID modifications tho...

hence the JPJ and polis can do whatever they like...

Yeah you are right....like I have been stopped by JPJ in Ipoh last month about the HID that I have instaleld to my beloved CITY....I am using Philip 8000K white.......
Did not kena anything just tell the JPJ officer what kind of HID I installed and show him the Warranty/Receipt..............No problem at all

traffic police tangkap ppl do langgar traffic rules.
blue uniform police tangkap ppl who langgar rule (criminal) and also traffic offence. -------- universal police .

dats wad my fren told me >.<

but the problem is the police is nt traffic police..normal blue collar shirt police...and i called up JPJ just now and they said they are not sure when the rules of cannot be install HID enforced...even JPJ themself dunno how do they expect us to know?

some kits do not have the sheild @ all ...

is not that the JPJ know what rules or not..but when u attend court..the judge will read out the rules that you offended....

imagine...u go rape a girl...so when police caught u...can u say i dunno rape is a crime...u still have to get jailed and rotan~

At least they have to know the rules 1st b4 charging ppl...i called up bukit aman also they said ask me to check with JPJ...

fuah lemme know of the outcome.

i would like to offer u some advice but i see u got plenty liao.

Try to consult a lawyer.... get advice from them before appearing in court..

I won't attend the court la...I will go back to the branch and see whether compoundable or not..save all the troubles...really troublesome...wasting my time...

I've seen that piece of paper before. Its a normal summon. Just that all summons are now going through court for some reason. My mom kena before...she didn't renew her road tax and car insurance for only 2-3 days overdue, then asked to go court. In the end only paid summon RM300.

Don't let that paper scare you. When you go there, you could ask them back...what are the limit of a HID light....is it 6000k or 8000k. Then if the judge says 8000k, you show proof that yours is 6000k lah. If he says "any HID is illegal"...then no choice. Pay summon They won't sue you RM20,000 or 2 years prison for a bloody headlight

to TS... i think you need to see things differently...

there are 2 things here...

first... the summon paper is correct... by using different temp light is already considered illegal as only 4350K light is allowed... anything above that is illegal... (i also kena from 5000K Halogen lamp!). it's considered illegal modification. this is not new rule... check in JPJ website.

second... starting 2006, all law enforcers ARE ALLOWED to summon people due to a lot of people complain police traffic, jpj or police not doing jobs la, lots of people doing illegal things on the road la bla bla bla... so now police doing their work, you bising...

HID wise? it's illegal mod... same thing like you changed engine without JPJ approval. your car come into malaysia or produce in malaysia with stringent specs to adhere to. Hey in USA you cannot even have spot light installed if you're driving in city... Singapore, spotlights MUST BE covered and NOT be used on lighted roads... unless you're using reflectors that are designed for HID light spread, using normal Halogen reflectors with HID is selfish and illegal.

not all rated 8k are 'real' 8k

spotlights = foglamps ?

spotlight bigger than foglamp.
and brighter than foglamp too.
normally come with offroad halogen bulb , 100watt maybe.

the big big lamps like use in WRC during nite time ka~?
hehe

ur HID is white color light? read in news two times already, installing or using white color HID is illegal and u can be caught.
BMW, Camry HID is not white color.... those white color 1 installing by accesorries shop... for example, wira , old honda civic.....

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Added on May 12, 2008, 11:56 pmbro, i saw the saman there wrote 'putih silau' mean u are eligible to be caught.
JPJ can give u saman as well as police. better go modified it back to normal.
even lawyer will consult u to change it back to normal or give compensation.

This post has been edited by Travies: May 12 2008, 11:56 PM

to cut the long story short, you are not supposed to change to bright white light from stock yellow halogen light. They dont have to list down in details because it would be too many things. Imagine having 100 types of mod. They just need to state a general rule like "no HID/white/glaring headlamp or no modification on stock standard light except getting prior approval from JPJ"

U can check out on their website...no info stated den how we should know?and i did asked them when i went JPJ yesterday..they said last time can use HID lights but too many "ppl" complained already that is why the banned it..But JPJ say official action will be taken July onwards.Even JPJ only issue warning letter den y PDRM issue summon?ain't PDRM supposed to follow JPJ's enforcement?

You still don't understand do you? You are not being summoned for HID, you are being summoned for having white lights. White light is not stated as approved modifications, therefore it is not approved.

Do you really need to be explicitly told that it is not approved before you can accept it? Even a child can use the power of deduction, if it is not A or B, then it has to be C. In your case, you are unable to even accept that if White light is not in the approved list of modifications, therefore it is not approved. JPJ list what is approved and everything not in the list is not approved. Simple powers of deduction that I see kindergarden kids can do better than you.

So it is stated on the website that white light is not approved as white light modification is NOT listed on the 'Modifications that do not require JPJ Approval". I guess it is only you who cannot see it or do not want to see it.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: May 13 2008, 09:34 AM