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andyjyneo
post May 11 2008, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ May 11 2008, 10:36 PM)
how much is the summon?how much u paid?
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if appeal, RM100
i didn't appeal, so i paid RM200
they require me to write a letter and see OCPD to appeal, but the OCPD everyday also not in
how to see?
so to save the trouble, straight away pay RM200
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post May 11 2008, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(ProX @ May 11 2008, 08:16 PM)
conclusion is..

if you change your headlamp to HID from halogen type..police can give you a compound.
Stock standard HID for high end car is fitted properly and gone through experiment to ensure it will not pose danger to other road users.

I think you just bring that compound to police station and pay. They dont have micro down their description. using white HID even not that glaring is wrong too.
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yes .. because it hqard to test car by car.
just create a law that HID is illegal, then prob solve.

p/s : some factory fitted HID also super-glare one. especialy those 4x4 vehicle.
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post May 11 2008, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(xeratos_85 @ May 11 2008, 10:44 PM)
yes .. because it hqard to test car by car.
just create a law that HID is illegal, then prob solve.

p/s : some factory fitted HID also super-glare one. especialy those 4x4 vehicle.
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not really, if it's fitted with projector lamp
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post May 12 2008, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ May 11 2008, 03:43 PM)
well
i dono XEON but i know XENON
so as for BION, i only know merz n bmw those cars using BI-XENON tongue.gif
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hahah Shit la. i know just simple pronouce ma... no need to fully type. since almost the same sound.


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post May 12 2008, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ May 11 2008, 10:45 PM)
not really, if it's fitted with projector lamp
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thay why i said SOME sweat.gif
and look at their height , taller than my car.
the light can penetrate my car glass directly.hehe

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post May 12 2008, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(xeratos_85 @ May 12 2008, 12:24 AM)
thay why i said SOME  sweat.gif
and look at their height , taller than my car.
the light can penetrate my car glass directly.hehe
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so far i've seen estima, ahfat, caldina, wish, etc... all are okie
what's your "some" cars?
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post May 12 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ May 12 2008, 12:28 AM)
so far i've seen estima, ahfat, caldina, wish, etc... all are okie
what's your "some" cars?
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u have seen, but u are not in my car.
image their tailgating me at highway with my car about half of their height.
and rexton and land rover . i not said in teory , but what i said here was what i experiend by myself.
i driving mit. FTO then.
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post May 12 2008, 06:17 AM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ May 11 2008, 12:42 PM)
HID user that cause road danger n blind others from the opposite way should b punish

well like estima, wish, new civic, these cars don comes wif projectors also
but they don blind others coz hav proper set up n adjustment
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errr.. the wish does come with projectors depeding on the facelifted version or not ....the newer estima does with it though .
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post May 12 2008, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ May 11 2008, 12:42 PM)
HID user that cause road danger n blind others from the opposite way should b punish

well like estima, wish, new civic, these cars don comes wif projectors also
but they don blind others coz hav proper set up n adjustment
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yes, stock always the best because they are done by professional, while aftermarket HID are done by ah beng
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post May 12 2008, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(xeratos_85 @ May 12 2008, 12:36 AM)
u have seen, but u are not in my car.
image their tailgating me at highway with my car about half of their height.
and rexton and land rover . i not said in teory , but what i said here was what i experiend by myself.
i driving mit. FTO then.
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It's not that their cars are tall.. just that yours is just low.. ahhahahaha...
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post May 12 2008, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(clsiluf @ May 12 2008, 08:35 AM)
yes, stock always the best because they are done by professional, while aftermarket HID are done by ah beng
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Y u must discriminate those use HID lights?anything wrong? mad.gif vmad.gif
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post May 12 2008, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ May 11 2008, 02:15 PM)
ok...thanks for the advice...i think i'll pay that branch a visit and convert that paper to summon...

it is supposed to be notice according to JPJ and no summons (B4 july), but anyways, i'll pay that branch a visit and see what will they issue...i cant really argue anythin wid em coz they are 'telor' (the law)...they say i'm wrong wut can i do? i wan no fuss...sigh.... sad.gif
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Look at your summon again. You are not being summoned for HID. You are being summoned for WHITE LIGHT. They cannot summon you for HID yet. So the question here is not about HID anymore. Even if you have halogen white light, you will still get summoned.


Added on May 12, 2008, 8:45 am
QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ May 12 2008, 08:40 AM)
Y u must discriminate those use HID lights?anything wrong? mad.gif  vmad.gif
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The issue here is both ways... JPJ for not having the proper guidelines for HID and installers who does not know how to install HIDs. Once the guidelines are sorted out, that would not be an issue anymore. We've gone through this with tinting and it took a long time until they got their equipment sorted out to test. Without the proper equipment, they can't enforce the regulations.

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post May 12 2008, 08:46 AM

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padan muka HID USER!!!
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padan muka HID USER!!!
padan muka HID USER!!!
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post May 12 2008, 08:47 AM

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Many people who install HIDs (both car owners and installers included) made serious mistakes by throwing away the stock anti-glare shield. As a result, the light spreads causing blindness to on-coming cars.

I've HIDs on my car too but apart from stock anti-glare shield, I also install an additional shield to prevent the light from spreading downwards as well as sideways.

And yes, the shields ain't cheap but it is for safety reasons. Below is the additional shield I bought from eBay.

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post May 12 2008, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ May 12 2008, 08:42 AM)
Look at your summon again. You are not being summoned for HID. You are being summoned for WHITE LIGHT. They cannot summon you for HID yet. So the question here is not about HID anymore. Even if you have halogen white light, you will still get summoned.


Added on May 12, 2008, 8:45 am

The issue here is both ways... JPJ for not having the proper guidelines for HID and installers who does not know how to install HIDs. Once the guidelines are sorted out, that would not be an issue anymore. We've gone through this with tinting and it took a long time until they got their equipment sorted out to test. Without the proper equipment, they can't enforce the regulations.
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But the problem is i've checked the JPJ website and it was not stated that halogen white n HID is prohibited...If they say cannot, den y dun have such regulation stated?At least after market users will know...
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post May 12 2008, 09:03 AM

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JPJ rules are not fixed... it depends on the officer's mood and attitude. If they feel like saman, then that's it. No point arguing because once u get the inspection letter, the lights will go too. All 'pakat' already.
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post May 12 2008, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ May 12 2008, 09:03 AM)
JPJ rules are not fixed... it depends on the officer's mood and attitude. If they feel like saman, then that's it. No point arguing because once u get the inspection letter, the lights will go too. All 'pakat' already.
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becos of TS don't want to pay the so call 'kopi$$' he is being issued with this court order laugh.gif

gstrapinuse: when u going to pay ur summon?..let us know the outcome...it's destiny that ur rm100-200 is going to burn~

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post May 12 2008, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(gstrapinuse @ May 12 2008, 09:01 AM)
But the problem is i've checked the JPJ website and it was not stated that halogen white n HID is prohibited...If they say cannot, den y dun have such regulation stated?At least after market users will know...
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Ahh.. such is the Malaysian attitude. You have to be told NOT to do before you stop doing it. The installation of white lights is not listed on their approved modifications list, therefore it is not allowed without inspection.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ May 12 2008, 09:22 AM)
Ahh.. such is the Malaysian attitude. You have to be told NOT to do before you stop doing it. The installation of white lights is not listed on their approved modifications list, therefore it is not allowed without inspection.
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it's best to close this thread so he can go ask for lawyer advice.....so many flaming & trolling...
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post May 12 2008, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(xeratos_85 @ May 12 2008, 12:36 AM)
u have seen, but u are not in my car.
image their tailgating me at highway with my car about half of their height.
and rexton and land rover . i not said in teory , but what i said here was what i experiend by myself.
i driving mit. FTO then.
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rexton doesn't come with projector lamp
only crystal lamp
that's why it's glaring

QUOTE(dokidoki @ May 12 2008, 10:06 AM)
it's best to close this thread so he can go ask for lawyer advice.....so many flaming & trolling...
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the easiest way to solve this problem is to pay or attend court
that's all only
nothing to debate on

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