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 2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda

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post Jul 21 2008, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 21 2008, 08:18 PM)
All cars above 2000cc entitled for road tax rebate of RM200. So 2.5 Mazda 6 road tax should be 600+..
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but the already paid can't get cash refund via pos office rite?
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post Jul 21 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Jul 21 2008, 05:37 PM)
straight direct from jpj m'sia itself. so yes i dont know all cars above 2.0L are entitled to RM400 and i dont know where your sos came from and i do know that you are bullshitting. true ?


Not bullshitting. Just wrongly informed. Thats' all. A person like me sometimes allowed for some errors. No need for the sacarstic remarks. smile.gif

So are you still convinced that you're paying RM 800++ road tax for your Alphard? biggrin.gif


Added on July 21, 2008, 10:26 pm
QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:09 PM)
but the already paid can't get cash refund via pos office rite?


Thanks to sharkteef's posted link;

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6) Bagi pemilik kenderaan yang telah memperbaharui LKM dan mula berkuatkuasa mulai 1 Jun sehingga 23 Jun 2008, bayaran perbezaan antara kadar lama dan baru boleh  dilakukan dengan mengemukakan permohonan di mana-mana Pejabat JPJ Negeri dan Pejabat JPJ Cawangan yang berdekatan mulai 23 Jun 2008.

7) Permohonan bayaran balik LKM boleh dikemukakan oleh pemilik sendiri atau wakil dengan menyertakan bersama dokumen-dokumen seperti berikut:-

Salinan fotostat buku bank/ penyata bank (1 salinan)
Salinan kad pengenalan pemilik (1 salinan)
Salinan kad pengenalan wakil (jika wakil hadir) (1 salinan)
Borang JPJ K6  Borang JPJK6 (1 salinan)

Borang JPJ K6 boleh didapati di semua pejabat JPJ atau boleh dimuat turun melalui website JPJ di alamat www.jpj.gov.my. Bayaran balik akan dikreditkan terus ke akaun bank yang disertakan.


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post Jul 22 2008, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Jul 21 2008, 04:21 PM)
yaka ? road tax price drop liao ?
my alphard is 2.4 and its already RM800+ and so's my 2.2 accord which is RM 599 p.a.

u mean to tell me your mazda cars are subsidised by the garmen ?
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If ur car is older car prior to the road tax reduction announcement u will not get the road tax deduction until u renew ur new road tax next year. It is just that simple as those below 2000cc, no rebate for those b4.

QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:09 PM)
but the already paid can't get cash refund via pos office rite?
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New registered car all is paid to dealer. I paid dealer a Rm800 worth of road tax. So the next thing I do is to claim that extra RM200 back from the dealer, they are the one who get the new roadtax for me, they are the one who paid the road tax RM600+ to Gov. So the they still holding the RM200. Claim back from them, check ur receipt you actually paid RM800+ to roadtax.

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post Jul 23 2008, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 22 2008, 08:46 AM)
If ur car is older car prior to the road tax reduction announcement u will not get the road tax deduction until u renew ur new road tax next year. It is just that simple as those below 2000cc, no rebate for those b4.

New registered car all is paid to dealer. I paid dealer a Rm800 worth of road tax. So the next thing I do is to claim that extra RM200 back from the dealer, they are the one who get the new roadtax for me, they are the one who paid the road tax RM600+ to Gov. So the they still holding the RM200. Claim back from them, check ur receipt you actually paid RM800+ to roadtax.
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lucky u told me, will ask dealer when car arrive. if not , there goes my rm200 if they keep quiet.

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post Jul 23 2008, 01:18 AM

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of course honda accord new Version la. totally out of 10 if VS with honda accord. go watch the youtube official video about honda features.
thats worth to buy. Honda car will always the best in city and highway driving and its quality is proven. JAPANESE car only 0.02 defect. thats a greatest score!
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post Jul 23 2008, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 23 2008, 01:18 AM)
of course honda accord new Version la. totally out of 10 if VS with honda accord. go watch the youtube official video about honda features.
thats worth to buy. Honda car will always the best in city and highway driving and its quality is proven. JAPANESE car only 0.02 defect. thats a greatest score!
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Honda features? Best city and highway driving? Quality proven? 0.02 defect?

Are you disillusioned? None of the above applies to our CKD Accord. Chances are you've watch an Euro Accord video on youtube.

Please do a test drive on both cars and them come here to make your own informed assessment instead of going on youtube with a herd mentality.
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post Jul 23 2008, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 23 2008, 01:29 AM)
Honda features? Best city and highway driving? Quality proven? 0.02 defect?

Are you disillusioned? None of the above applies to our CKD Accord. Chances are you've watch an Euro Accord video on youtube.

Please do a test drive on both cars and them come here to make your own informed assessment instead of going on youtube with a herd mentality.
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is u dont know only. i have searched net and get bout it b4 coz my dad is interested with the new accord. dont believe go search net! 0.02 defect for JAPANESE car manufacturer like HONDA.

maybe u r mazda fans so keep goin on with ur choice:)

everything is depends on car quality , not ur mind!
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post Jul 23 2008, 03:13 AM

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seems like that is ur dad first honda .
i drive accord for 4yrs already, many of my friends own latest civic,crv, city.
and 0.02 defect statement is....ahem.... ask ur dad opinion 2yrs later then tell us here.

for ur info, mazda also japanese car. and it's CBU which totally made in Japan. honda accord sell in malaysia is CKD which assemble in Melaka ,Malaysia. and most of the youtube or net review is not base on our very proud CKD in Melaka honda.

im not sure how's CBU mazda quality in long run, hopefully im choose the right side this time.

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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 23 2008, 01:18 AM)
of course honda accord new Version la. totally out of 10 if VS with honda accord. go watch the youtube official video about honda features.
thats worth to buy. Honda car will always the best in city and highway driving and its quality is proven. JAPANESE car only 0.02 defect. thats a greatest score!
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yes, that is only applicable for japanese cars coming out from japan's factory whistling.gif
and what features are you talking about, mind to elaborate it?
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post Jul 23 2008, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Jul 23 2008, 03:13 AM)
seems like that is ur dad first honda .
i drive accord for 4yrs already, many of my friends own latest civic,crv, city.
and 0.02 defect statement is....ahem....  ask ur dad opinion 2yrs later then tell us here.

for ur info, mazda also japanese car. and it's CBU which totally made in Japan. honda accord sell in malaysia is CKD which assemble in Melaka ,Malaysia. and most of the youtube or net review is not base on our very proud CKD in Melaka honda.

im not sure how's CBU mazda quality in long run, hopefully im choose the right side this time.
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Afaik, after we talk so much about good things of Mazda6,

Here is something bad I dont like about Mazda6.

When driving above 100km/h u starting to hear wind noise from outside. It is clearly the noise shielding is not as good as the European cars.

Bumpy. The car is a little bit more bumpy for its size. I suspect mainly due to the large 18" RIM that cause the problem. So I think the 16" RIM 2.0L will be more comfortable than 2.5L one.

Other thing I fear is, there are simply too many sensors in this car. Like I said the whole car is sensor it self. So if spoiled I dont think replacing/repair come cheap. cry.gif

As for Engine noise, I recall there is someone in this thread saying the engine noise is a problem. Wth! I barely heard the engine noise even I press my pedal. Even the wind noise from outside + the radio can easily cover up the engine noise. That guy who complain must have ultra sensitive microphone ear OR he is a honda fan guy who simply say something out from nothing.

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post Jul 23 2008, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 23 2008, 01:18 AM)
of course honda accord new Version la. totally out of 10 if VS with honda accord. go watch the youtube official video about honda features.
thats worth to buy. Honda car will always the best in city and highway driving and its quality is proven. JAPANESE car only 0.02 defect. thats a greatest score!
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Don't be disguise with what you see in youtube....go to motor trader and see for yourself tons of problems Honda owners are facing from this Made in Melaka product. http://www.samar.pl/__/__la/en/__ac/sec,4/...ity-survey.html.


Added on July 23, 2008, 10:38 am
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 23 2008, 09:46 AM)
Afaik, after we talk so much about good things of Mazda6,

Here is something bad I dont like about Mazda6.

When driving above 100km/h u starting to hear wind noise from outside. It is clearly the noise shielding is not as good as the European cars.

Bumpy. The car is a little bit more bumpy for its size. I suspect mainly due to the large 18" RIM that cause the problem. So I think the 16" RIM 2.0L will be more comfortable than 2.5L one.

Other thing I fear is, there are simply too many sensors in this car. Like I said the whole car is sensor it self. So if spoiled I dont think replacing/repair come cheap.  cry.gif

As for Engine noise, I recall there is someone in this thread saying the engine noise is a problem. Wth! I barely heard the engine noise even I press my pedal. Even the wind noise from outside + the radio can easily cover up the engine noise. That guy who complain must have ultra sensitive microphone ear OR he is a honda fan guy who simply say something out from nothing.
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The wind shield is a problem i heard from many M6 owners. As for the bumpiness, as you said its the 18' rims and don't forget the amazing precise handling of this car is all expected to sacrifice on comfort.
Don't think you should worry so much on sensor as all the modern cars today are full of sensor anyway and normally these sensors seldom give problem...
You are right, as i said before you barely notice the engine is running unless you floor it and that roaring sound was really nice!!


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post Jul 23 2008, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 23 2008, 01:34 AM)
is u dont know only. i have searched net and get bout it b4 coz my dad is interested with the new accord. dont believe go search net! 0.02 defect for JAPANESE car manufacturer like HONDA.

maybe u r mazda fans so keep goin on with ur choice:)

everything is depends on car quality , not ur mind!
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Your may want to do another "research" wink.gif More to the tune of local Honda quality instead. Links gathered are courtesy of poster: Corek

Disappointed with Honda Accord 2008:
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=28239

ALL QC related issues:
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=28277

New Accord G8 Issue..Pls Share here:
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=28011

UNhappy with 08 Accord 2.4!
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...487&whichpage=1

Problems With 2008 Honda Accord
http://blog.thestar.com.my/permalink.asp?id=15439
in case star delete it view it here...http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5339/shitsj2.jpg

and more...
http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/fo...asp?FORUM_ID=30

You should also check in with autoworld.com.my honda forums as well. But at the end of the day, I think it depends on whether your dad is lucky or not


Added on July 23, 2008, 10:44 am
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 23 2008, 09:46 AM)
Afaik, after we talk so much about good things of Mazda6,

Here is something bad I dont like about Mazda6.

When driving above 100km/h u starting to hear wind noise from outside. It is clearly the noise shielding is not as good as the European cars.

Bumpy. The car is a little bit more bumpy for its size. I suspect mainly due to the large 18" RIM that cause the problem. So I think the 16" RIM 2.0L will be more comfortable than 2.5L one.

Other thing I fear is, there are simply too many sensors in this car. Like I said the whole car is sensor it self. So if spoiled I dont think replacing/repair come cheap.  cry.gif

As for Engine noise, I recall there is someone in this thread saying the engine noise is a problem. Wth! I barely heard the engine noise even I press my pedal. Even the wind noise from outside + the radio can easily cover up the engine noise. That guy who complain must have ultra sensitive microphone ear OR he is a honda fan guy who simply say something out from nothing.
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Nothing that can't be solved with a little KL Autofoaming (Ultimate to luxury package) and soundproofing thumbup.gif

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thats my opinion:) if u guys saying M6 is better then go for it smile.gif i dont care watever u guys wanna choose, just telling the truth that i know since TS ask for comment.
if u guys feel that local honda accord is lousy, then u can import.
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Billy, just took my baby home..the car is really fantastic and outstanding. Did you check your tyre pressure? Went straight to pump petrol and check the tyre pressure, guess what..the pressure was 50psi!!!instead of the recommended 32 psi. I presume since the car from Japan, they have to pump in higher pressure as the car will take some time before it reaches the owner. If you have not, then it must be the pressure that makes your car so bumpy..
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Probably so but I would prefer the pressure go off by itself so I wouldnt care, as I am not the type of guy who drive violently. tongue.gif Besides, high pressure save some fuel. Let the pressure go off then I go back 32psi. and I know I probably sayang my car a lot more than driving in first few weeks. hehehe. Dealer give me full tank petrol so no need pump petrol muahaha.

and also the b4 first maintenance u cant really vroom a lot yet. (thats according to manual)

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 23 2008, 03:02 PM)
Probably so but I would prefer the pressure go off by itself so I wouldnt care, as I am not the type of guy who drive violently.  tongue.gif Besides, high pressure save some fuel. Let the pressure go off then I go back 32psi. and I know I probably sayang my car a lot more than driving in first few weeks. hehehe. Dealer give me full tank petrol so no need pump petrol muahaha.

and also the b4 first maintenance u cant really vroom a lot yet. (thats according to manual)
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You have to let go the air...50psi is alot. It will create uneven tyre also.

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QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 23 2008, 03:09 PM)
You have to let go the air...50psi is alot. It will create uneven tyre also.
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deng I didnt check the tyre lah. dont know what psi it has lol.

I'll check may be tonight or tomorrow, u sounds like scaring me tongue.gif

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 23 2008, 09:46 AM)
As for Engine noise, I recall there is someone in this thread saying the engine noise is a problem. Wth! I barely heard the engine noise even I press my pedal. Even the wind noise from outside + the radio can easily cover up the engine noise. That guy who complain must have ultra sensitive microphone ear OR he is a honda fan guy who simply say something out from nothing.


Aiyah Billy, probably after years of getting used to the Kembara, anything also would would sound silent to you. laugh.gif


Added on July 23, 2008, 3:24 pm
QUOTE(iceman08 @ Jul 23 2008, 02:39 PM)
Billy, just took my baby home..the car is really fantastic and outstanding. Did you check your tyre pressure? Went straight to pump petrol and check the tyre pressure, guess what..the pressure was 50psi!!!instead of the recommended 32 psi. I presume since the car from Japan, they have to pump in higher pressure as the car will take some time before it reaches the owner. If you have not, then it must be the pressure that makes your car so bumpy..


iceman, congrats ! Making me more envious now. cry.gif

Heck, shouldn't the PDI check all things like proper inflated tyre pressure? whistling.gif


Added on July 23, 2008, 3:26 pm
QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 23 2008, 03:10 PM)
deng I didnt check the tyre lah. dont know what psi it has lol.


Just get a digital tyre gauge (RM 30) from Carefour and you can check yourself.

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 23 2008, 03:19 PM)
Aiyah Billy, probably after years of getting used to the Kembara, anything also would would sound silent to you.  laugh.gif
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Not entirely true, I have a RAV4 running with me and I sit a lot of cars, so it is not big deal at all. tongue.gif But the one who complain about engine sound over wind shield prob must be nuts, I mean the wind shield is louder than the engine.

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QUOTE(billytong @ Jul 23 2008, 03:59 PM)
Not entirely true, I have a RAV4 running with me and I sit a lot of cars, so it is not big deal at all.  tongue.gif  But the one who complain about engine sound over wind shield prob must be nuts, I mean the wind shield is louder than the engine.
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Come to think of it, maybe the M6 engine is so silent and thats why you can hear the wind sound? Maybe most cars have the same sound but since their engines are louder thus cover up the sound from windows?? You dont need a pressure gauge, just go to petrol station with the new electric pump, it will automatically reduce the pressure to the desire level.

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