I know brand like ABB, Hager have difference made, price is also varied. So when buy ask where it was made.
Renovations 3-phase wiring
Renovations 3-phase wiring
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Mar 22 2012, 11:50 PM
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I know brand like ABB, Hager have difference made, price is also varied. So when buy ask where it was made.
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Jun 18 2012, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:10 PM) My electrician has "disappeared" after full payment. Thought you move in already? If your house still running on single now, that mean you need to re tap the mini bus bar again in your DB box, I believe now is ask tap to single phase.He has done most of the house wiring and now left the final part 3 phase application. The meter box has 3 big plug thingy and now onlu using one of the big plug thingy. How to go finish this. need to go TNB and do what??? If you not sure how to do better ask an electrician to do it. |
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Jun 19 2012, 09:24 AM
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Jun 19 2012, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jun 19 2012, 10:07 AM) yes, add on something on the db box and apply 3 phase, total need to pay for both contractor and tnb deposit. all for 3300. What you add? If goose was early design for single phase, doing 3 phase required neatly rewrite half the house. If rewrite half the house this is too cheap to believe.is it reasonable? |
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Jun 19 2012, 04:56 PM
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Jul 13 2012, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Renelle @ Jul 13 2012, 03:32 PM) what about 3 air con, 2 water heater and 1 oven? Do i need 1 or 3 phase? Does TV and air purifier takes into account as well? Depend your Ac power. If 3 units of 2hp default is on the limit for single phase.This post has been edited by weikee: Jul 13 2012, 03:57 PM |
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Jul 13 2012, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(Renelle @ Jul 13 2012, 03:44 PM) i think 2 of it will be 1hp unit and 1 2hp unit. But not all will be on at the same time. so 1 phase should be sufficient i supposed? 1 HP say 4 amps each, 2HP say 8 amps, heater say 15 amps each, fridge say 2 amps but only run short hours per day. Oven I can't recall think is about 10 amps.So in total if you switches on concurrent is about 56 amps. Lights and TV maybe 3 amps. You are about there of single phases if you switch all the same time. |
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Nov 4 2012, 05:52 PM
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That is why know your house usage, max concurrent drawn will be best. Not always renovation must change to 3 phase.
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Nov 18 2012, 11:49 PM
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Why need 3p? running concurrent 3 water heater + 3 a/c + fridge? or have 300 units of lights lighting everyday?
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Nov 19 2012, 09:07 AM
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Nov 19 2012, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Nov 19 2012, 09:53 AM) Yes, you are right in the sense of when you ON any appliances, the initial A can goes up to 6 times higher. Modern circuit have made some improvement and some even put in current limiter this reducing the rushin current for startup motor. Even if it go up 6x, is only few seconds. |
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Nov 19 2012, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Nov 19 2012, 01:37 PM) Yup, just a short while high peak, later it will goes back to the normal A. Wonder how can the house owner switch on the same time? Even after power trip, the A/C auto on is also random timed, that was one of the reason the random switch on time was design.That is why usually those contractor will ask the house owner try not to ON a few units of aircond at the same time. Added on November 19, 2012, 1:47 pmAh well, maybe we have many well to do home owner, target to have lots of high HP a/c switch on, and few hundreds lights switch on daily. Ok to pay for TNB. Maybe I should buy TNB share already This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 19 2012, 01:47 PM |
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Nov 19 2012, 04:03 PM
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Someone told me the actual rate will be about RM 0.5 per kw, could be higher. All thanks to the IPP "special lock price" to TNB, and over supply. Ah well is only speculation.
But do expect to go up North after 13GE. |
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Nov 19 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Nov 19 2012, 05:08 PM) It is possible i think, just the chance is super slim. When testing my house wiring, i switch on all my 6 units of a/c + 2 water heater, My ELCB did not trip, only my main fused beside the meter blow after about 10mins of used. That is because the fused was rated 40+ amps (think it come from 3 phases) free from my electrician. Change it back to 60Amps, that should allow me to handle up to 14,440 watt. More than my 6 a/c + 2 heater. It is possible if 2 persons in the same house ON the aircond at the same timing. But as i mentioned earlier the chance is super slim. Or this is one of the reason for contractor to excuse themself if something wrong happened? |
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Nov 19 2012, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Nov 19 2012, 09:22 PM) From the way it sounds like paying extra to get a 3 phase wiring is not worth while huh. Is not sound, is actually not worth it if your appliance are not power hunger.Unless the no of appliances is really huge in a house. This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 19 2012, 09:26 PM |
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Nov 22 2012, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Nov 22 2012, 01:41 PM) If consistan using 14,400 or maybe at 90% 13,000 watt than is good to change to 3 phase, but only just short spike don't need. BTW, if using 14,400 watt, that is paying RM 5+ per hours, if use for 3 hours perday that is paying RM 450.00 for just this 3 hours x 30 days. Add with other daily usage, minimal house hold electrical bills will go up to RM 500++ This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 22 2012, 02:27 PM |
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Nov 22 2012, 02:51 PM
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Monthly bill rate is not a good way for 3 phase decision. Need to know the house peak load.
If one stay in bungalow, sure the normal peak load will sometime exceed 14.4kw For my humble double story house, during party, i switch on most of the lights, and 3 units of a/c without switching on the water heater. Still fine, that nigh itself only use about 8kwh for 2.5 hours. Most important, as house owner, know how much your utilities bill and where and why the amount coming from. Be wise. |
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Nov 22 2012, 03:29 PM
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ELCB is Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker
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Nov 22 2012, 11:54 PM
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Nov 23 2012, 12:07 AM
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Actually if i run 40amp on my first floor, and 40 amps at my ground floor. It won't trip. Because I run two separate DB box, with independent ELCB and main MCB. Only the incoming fused will blow.
Technically, i can just pull one more phase for my first floor. Too bad, TNB don't offer 2 phase circuit |
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