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TSnj922
post May 8 2008, 09:48 AM, updated 18y ago

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Hi,

Anyone can advice me on what is 3-phase wiring and what should I do to apply the 3-phase wiring? how much is the cost?

thanks in advance.
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post May 8 2008, 09:57 AM

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tnb will welcome you to take 3 phase..
got discount some more..
but then why you want to take 3 phase?
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post May 8 2008, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(nj922 @ May 8 2008, 09:48 AM)
Hi,

Anyone can advice me on what is 3-phase wiring and what should I do to apply the 3-phase wiring? how much is the cost?

thanks in advance.
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3phase are 415Vac supply (generally for industrial use). Typically there are 4 lines for 3 phase (R,Y,B) + N(neutral). For home user, the normal supply is 240Vac, so in order to get this supply from 3phase, u need to tap either 1 of the phase to neutral. Btw, why u need 3phase for home use?? blink.gif
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post May 8 2008, 10:09 AM

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i wish to have cheaper electrical bill...
Do you know how much I need to pay for the application?
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post May 8 2008, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(nj922 @ May 8 2008, 10:09 AM)
i wish to have cheaper electrical bill...
Do you know how much I need to pay for the application?
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Where do you get the idea that 3 phase would lead to lower electric bill?
It all depends on your consumptions. You still own the same electric and electronic devices that consumes the same amount of electricity while on 1 phase or 3 phase.

Btw, back to the topic. Look at your "fuse box".
If it's only 1 row of fuses than that's single phase. If it's 3 than it's 3 phase.

Nowadays, most house comes with 3 phases especially landed properties. However, for condos or apartments; a single phase is enough as you do not have many plug points. Ppl uses 3 phase because they have lots of plug points and do not want to overload one single phase of fuse.

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post May 8 2008, 12:29 PM

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My new house just changed to 3-phase wiring because we have 5 air-cons and 3 water heaters sweat.gif
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post May 8 2008, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ May 8 2008, 12:29 PM)
My new house just changed to 3-phase wiring because we have 5 air-cons and 3 water heaters sweat.gif
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Yeah for big house that uses alot of air-conds especially then u should make 3phase wiring.

For a normal teres house i dont think there's a need to do 3phase wiring.
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post May 8 2008, 01:41 PM

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Hi dEviLs ,

How much do you need to pay for the 3-phase application?
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post May 8 2008, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ May 8 2008, 12:39 PM)
Yeah for big house that uses alot of air-conds especially then u should make 3phase wiring.

For a normal teres house i dont think there's a need to do 3phase wiring.
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if the teres house got 3 rooms & 1 bathroom...they still could put 3 aircond or 4 aircond if includ the living hall and a water heater....isn't it better to put 3phase wiring
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post May 8 2008, 01:45 PM

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air-con more than 3 units... recommended to install 3-phase..


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post May 8 2008, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(nj922 @ May 8 2008, 09:48 AM)
Hi,

Anyone can advice me on what is 3-phase wiring and what should I do to apply the 3-phase wiring? how much is the cost?

thanks in advance.
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are u a home owner? how many air conds and water heater u have in the house ? to ransform from a single phase to three phase is quite hassle though. get an applications from TNB, increase ur electricity deposit, mine is rm 500.00. Then, get a certified electrician to install extra fuse above the meter.

where u get the information that 3 phase is more energy saving that single phase ?
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QUOTE(nj922 @ May 8 2008, 01:41 PM)
Hi dEviLs ,

How much do you need to pay for the 3-phase application?
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i cant remember exactly because i did it together with the renovation but i think application plus wiring should be in the region of RM2k unsure.gif


Added on May 8, 2008, 3:36 pmSaw this on TNB website
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Promotion To Upgrade Single Phase To Three Phase Supply


"In conjunction with Malaysia 50th Merdeka celebration, Tenaga Nasional Berhad is offering a 50% discount on connection charges for users of single phase electricity supply who wish to convert to a 3 phase supply. The offer is open to domestic and commercial customers only."

http://www.tnb.com.my/tnb/highlights.php?Id=165
http://www.tnb.com.my/cms/jscript/uploads/...n.%20cutout.pdf

This post has been edited by dEviLs: May 8 2008, 03:36 PM
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post May 8 2008, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(tpl66 @ May 8 2008, 03:09 PM)
are u a home owner? how many air conds and water heater u have in the house ? to ransform from a single phase to three phase is quite hassle though. get an applications from TNB, increase ur electricity deposit, mine is rm 500.00. Then, get a certified electrician to install extra fuse above the meter.

where u get the information that 3 phase is more energy saving that single phase ?
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Do you still remember how much you pay for the TNB application?


Added on May 8, 2008, 9:22 pmGot 1 electrician quote me RM750 for the application and RM250 to top up the deposit. Total is RM1000. Is it reasonable?

This post has been edited by nj922: May 8 2008, 09:22 PM
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post May 22 2008, 01:03 PM

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just called Kedai Tenaga Bangi and Kajang
both mention the same thing
if ur normal electricity bill is below RM100....
no need to think of changing to 3-phase
so its like having max 2 air-con and used rarely....the rest use normal fan only....


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post Jun 9 2008, 09:59 PM

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single phase electric first 200 unit $0.218, >, then 0.289 per unit
3 phase, 1 unit 0.323

New TNB meter can support 100A. Should be enough

err.. how is that cheaper?
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it's not cheaper.... only use it if your electricity consumption is very high so there'll be enough flow. my house got 4 aircond and 2 water heaters, hence needed it... otherwise tak payah.....
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QUOTE(optiplex @ Jun 9 2008, 09:59 PM)
single phase electric first 200 unit $0.218, >, then 0.289 per unit
3 phase, 1 unit 0.323

New TNB meter can support 100A. Should be enough

err.. how is that cheaper?
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Where did you get this info from?
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post Jun 10 2008, 07:23 PM

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From a certified electrician, who currently submitting form to change my single phase to 3 phase at my new shop.

QUOTE(yumyum77 @ Jun 10 2008, 01:43 PM)
Where did you get this info from?
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post Jun 10 2008, 10:03 PM

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3 phase i dont think will be saving cost

but if u wanna run your heavy load electronics for long hours
3 phase is better then single phase
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QUOTE(optiplex @ Jun 9 2008, 09:59 PM)
single phase electric first 200 unit $0.218, >, then 0.289 per unit
3 phase, 1 unit 0.323

New TNB meter can support 100A. Should be enough

err.. how is that cheaper?
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if u use a single phase or three phase in residential house, the rate is same. first 200 unit at 0.218 and form 201 thereafter will be 0.289. it is standatd.

my house with three phase is using the rate as above and my old man house with single phase also the same rate.

shop, or buisness rate is different as residential area.


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