http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/03/iphone-...etool-released/



What is Pwnage Tool, you ask?



The link for the Mac version is here:- http://www.iphone-dev.org/, while the Windows version is coming very soon.

Imagine your own cooked custom firmware, or even foreign OSes like Android!

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Apr 3 2008, 08:00 PM

The One-Minute-Earlier Edition Joking ya Moon.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/662691

The 4 days earlier thread.

The Released-TODAY version.

The News version can stay as it is.

kah kah, post edition in iPhone v6 Thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/644587/+2095
with direct link to the application download. 1 hour early edition haha...

mmm...btw like frozz n siawgu said on the iPhone v6, anyone willing to try? hehehe...

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Apr 3 2008, 07:21 PM

I'm especially excited about this since we can now load custom firmware, I can have all the applications installed right away when i re-jailbreak. This indeed makes life a whole lot easier.

Yup, what you could do with this is have a backup-like custom firmware with all your apps installed once you do a restore up to a higher firmware version.

Sigh..."I-Feel-Old-By-An-Hour" Edition, which one to keep, which one to stay on?

wow this is the best potential it have!
btw anyone here willing to load WinMo if it can be customised for the iPhone? hahaha...
but surely Android will be the target for foreign OS to be customised first. hehehe...

Urggh, my hatred for WinMo made me MOVE AWAY from it, there's absolutely no compelling reason for me to go back to that garbage.

Android on the other hand.......*drools*

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Apr 3 2008, 07:48 PM

About loading custom firmwares i.e. our apps and all for backup, I don't see any features to do so. Am i missing something? Looks like the IPSW builder only have the option to jailbreak, activate, unlock and put boot neuter in it.

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Why o why u want to put WinMo in this phone?

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 3 2008, 07:54 PM

If Apple can include new apps inside new official firmwares from Apple (iTunes Wifi Store, Apps Store, etc), i assume you could add your own 3rd party apps inside the .ipsw package, once it has been Pwnaged? That's "custom" by my definition anyway.

Haha its ok. Have fun on your thread =)

haha...i'm just joking my friend.
haha...WinMo is total crap.
but only if people can modify Android to run on this platform (as far as i know, Android needs certain set of chip to make it run. maybe a hardware emulation can do eh?).
wow this also great. kinda like the payload thingy on the iPlus. super great when it can be included inside the IPSW.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Apr 3 2008, 10:27 PM

Half way to be ipineapple
DONE!!


This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 3 2008, 10:42 PM

Mmmm ... So hows the initial overview of ur new pineapple? Care to give some review?

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What i meant by custom IPSW is like the payload system used in iLiberty or iPlus. If the IPSW builder can do a payload like dat then it would be great. Then i can make a custom IPSW firmware with all my settings, custom mods, themes and other stuff so life would be easier everytime i want to restore. Right now i'm experimenting on the payload system in iLiberty to achive this.

Quick review..
At last manage to upgrade back my bootloader to 4.6,
Nothing much just got bootneuter. (I still can't figure for what)
Just I notice that restart or reboot take a bit longer... menyesal lak rasanya...
Can't test yet, still syncing.. my 16gb white mouse..





This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 3 2008, 11:31 PM

@SEP10
Bootneuter - fully disable baseband security check.

This is how we can run unsign or custom firmware in the phone. This also remove the check to validate secpack where BL4.6 need a higher or equal secpack to restore the baseband and do the unlock. Unlike BL3.9 where u can reflash the baseband to any of ur choosing. So bootneuter eliminates this checking.

U can read about bootneuter in http://wikee.iphwn.org/sgold_bootrom:bootneuter for more info.

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Added on April 3, 2008, 11:46 pmipswtool ... Just what i was looking for. Thanks.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 3 2008, 11:46 PM

Errrm, isnt that what i mean by my last post?

Well, somebody else do this whole experimentation, and post your findings here. Im not in the mood to re-sync 8Gb of data, plus i need my sleep for tomorrow's work.

Yea I read that, but I still blurr...
It's mean that we can reflash the baseband to any, using bootneuter at 4.6BL

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Added on April 3, 2008, 11:51 pmBetter don't. Wait for 2.0 is better...Re-sync 8gb data is kacang putih,
now I needs to install again and again and again... that problem...
Lucky for me tomorrow didn't have meeting...

This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 3 2008, 11:58 PM

haha...at least bootneuter can upgrade BL3.9 back to BL4.6. so there's actually no more issue with downgrading / upgrading bootloader (if it really becomes an issue with warranty stuffs, which happen to be not yet applicable for us)

Errrm ... Nope. Thats not what i meant with custom firmware. Maybe u didn't get the idea of what i meant by custom firmware. Nevermind. Pawnage tool can't do that level of customization ... yet. I'll just wait for the ipswtool.

@SEP10
Thats why i want to do a customize IPSW similar to iLiberty payload so i don't have to waste time install, install and install everything back. With the customize IPSW that i mention, i would have everything back just by restoring in itunes. The possibilities of what u can do is so awesome.

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Added on April 4, 2008, 12:44 amYeah ... thinking the same thing. Wait for F/W 2.0 then do the pawnage unless I need to restore back the phone in the near future. Just hope nothing happens coz right now i'm alpha testing customize 2.0 (gonna be a nice one when its launch later).

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 4 2008, 12:44 AM

Ermmm, isnt the IPSW file the firmware itself? Therefore customised IPSW = customised firmware? And the "firmware" here means the default apps, secpack(hence the bootloader and baseband files among other things) and required system files packaged into a single unit?

I know i've been out of the loop since my revirginizing days of 1.0.2/1.1.1 but i'd like to think i'm well versed in the workings of an iPhone and how the firmware/IPSW comes into play.


Ahem.

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Added on April 4, 2008, 12:47 amSyncing 8Gb is kacang putih if you're just ticking off what to sync, re-installing the apps isnt. Can i pay anyone here to reinstall the apps for me, hence taking my time off doing the bloody thing already? Im not looking forward to installing 3 pages worth of apps just for kicks, or to prove im 1337 or anything.




This post has been edited by stringfellow: Apr 4 2008, 12:47 AM

Ermm bro ... ur understanding on custom firmware is different from what i meant. Maybe u should read more/research on the payload method expecially iLiberty or iPlus, then u'll understand what i meant by custom firmware/IPSW (1.0.2/1.1.1 are an "old" story already so u might want to update yourself). If only have "default apps, secpack(hence the bootloader and baseband files among other things) and required system files packaged into a single unit" then this is not a customize IPSW/firmware. Its the normal IPSW. The only customize thing in the pawnage tool are pre-jailbreak,pre-activate and pre-unlocking within firmware itself with the addition of bootneuter app. If i'm not mistaken ... it does not include installer.app when u pwned ur phone. Correct me on this SEP10 if i'm mistaken since u already tried it.


This is why i said i want to make a custome firmware with all my settings, contacts, emails, custom mods, 3rd party apps and all those other stuff that takes our time to do after a restore. So with THAT custome firmware, i just pick the IPSW file and restore and BAM (sebut mcm steve jobs ) everything back like before restoring. Wouldn't dat take out all the hassle from restoring?

We are arguing about the definition of IPSW and Firmware, apparently you argued that you cant used these two terms interchangably, when i say they are both the same thing. Hence why this:-



I know about the whole payload system and your notion of a custom "firmware" (okay, we'll use YOUR term), i've used iPlus before to unlock my own re-updated 1.1.4. The whole confusion here is about "definition", not the methods.

Apparently your sarcasm meter is broken, coz i posted that sarcastically. Any clearer would make the post not work "sarcastically".

I suggest you reread what i posted from post #11. Hell, my Post #11 itself described your interest in what you define as "custom firmware", but what i call "customised .IPSW", when we are talking about the same thing. My gripe with you is that in one post you wrote "custom firmware", then later "custom IPSW" then on another on the same post itself , you wrote "custom IPSW firmware". Getting your terms and definition right would help in conveying your message across and not confusing others and yourself.

Let me put it in bullet points:-

1. I talked about "Pwning an .IPSW package with addition of your own 3rd party apps".
2. You then talked about "custom IPSW" which is the same thing as what i mean, only that you elaborated further with using the payload system modeled after the iLiberty/iPlus to make every restores easier. I admit i should have elaborated further on my Point #1 there, but that is basically what i mean.
3. The whole thread after this went into a spiral dive about one person thinking that the other person has it all wrong, when they are both thinking about the same thing.

Are we on the same page now?

But i see something good about all this, at least we have a healthy discussion about this, rather than a one-way communication. I applaud your enthusiasm and effort in engaging this discussion, unlike others who stop dead in their tracks once something on the contrary to their beliefs or way of thinking , hit them.

nyum nyum, with iPhone Pwn has been released, y not they leak the firmware 1.2 already? or the second beta 2.0 that has already being seeded by Apple just days b4? some people needs Exchange goodness, hehehe...

or maybe another 2 months isn't that long for the official ones? hihihi...

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Apr 4 2008, 01:37 AM

Did i said we can't use the two terms interchangably? Hmmm .. . I agree with u that IPSW = firmware (IPSW is the file format that contains the firmware ... or izzit im still confuse?). Thats why i use it interchangably. Sorry to other forumer if by my action of using those 2 terms confuses u all. My bad. I should just stick to one format since both thing means the same. . And there is no MY term or YOUR term or ANYONES term. Just the universal iPhone term. I understand what the "Definition" is and yes .. i was talking about the method and not the definition.



Its not broken but asleep but my other meters and functions are still working fine.



And i suggest u re-read post #10. Yeah the one before u.



In this statement ... you assumed that we can add our own 3rd party apps inside the .ipsw package which is correct hence your definition of "custom" .ipsw package or firmware (what ever u wanna call it).

In my statement ... I was wondering about the "IPSW builder" in the pawnage tool itself. If u look carefully in the video, there's no option to put our own 3rd party apps (like u mention above) in the .ipsw package. It looks like the "IPSW builder" only limited to repackaging the .IPSW package with a pre-jailbreak, pre-activate and pre-unlock files in it plus the bootneuter app (which is the only 3rd party app available in the "IPSW Builder"). I was concentrating more on the TOOL itself rather that the definition. This was cleared up by SEP10 from his link to the "IPSW tool" (read that carefully ... later u say i use "IPSW builder" then "IPSW tool" then "IPSW builder" then "IPSW tool" ... which is not the same thing or tools) by chronic dev that can package our 3rd party apps in the .ipsw package which "IPSW builder" can't do. Hope other forumer don't get confuse ... later habis i kena lagi.

Sometime people just don't take the pride to stood by their beliefs (if they 100% confirm its right la). I love discussing this ... with it we can gather more info or corrected our misguided view (if there's any).

BTW u should've been a prosecution lawyer instead of a pilot (my sarcastic meter just woke up) Hehehehehehe.

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Added on April 4, 2008, 2:33 amUse the 1.2 firmware or 2.0 only if you are a authorize developer from the SDK program. If your not a developer then better don't as its a copyright infringement. And I suggest to all forumer that have the "dirty" idea to download the "leak" firmware not to do it. If u do your research ... firmware 1.2 or 2.0 are still not stable enough for daily usage. Its design as a testing platform for the SDK apps, CISCO VPN and MS Exchange functionality. U won't get any benefit from it but more headache. Just be patient and wait for the official one which is another 2 months. Pejam celik pejam celik sudah 2 bulan.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 4 2008, 02:33 AM

like we haven't crossed the line before with jailbreak stuffs, vfdecrypt on 1.1.3 firmware, splitting of baseband f/w n software f/w without permission by Apple, unlocking of baseband, etc etc. haha...
waaa...waaa... but i still want one. wanna also use. waaa...waaa... <---myself crying like a baby
btw why not just leak one? if anything goes wrong then it's only one click away to restore. btw i've already know that as they implement many new things inside the beta firmware, then normally it tends to become buggy. so i'm ready for the expected consequences prior to this firmware.
but now has second beta already (which supposed to be lot more stable), y not just leak eh?
if the team still haven't release BootNeuter then maybe i'll not raise this question. just wanna try, then if got prob then of course i'll perform restore with stable firmware.

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Added on April 4, 2008, 3:11 am
and btw, iPhone beta firmware is not as unstable as thought. just check this:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/06/iphone-...firmware-early/
it's not only seeded to software developers, but also to the selected enterprise.
thus, it's not supposed to be a really buggy beta. in other words, it should be already easy to use for enterprise users.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Apr 4 2008, 03:15 AM

Okay, okay lets get this right before i turn in for the day (it's already late!)

Custom firmware = customised .IPSW = the end-result of what IPSW Builder does= the same thing.

That way we wont be stepping on each other's tails.

Weird still though, that if you claim it to be a UNIVERSAL term, shouldnt it be referred to as a SINGLE TERM, and not a variation of a term (eg. custom IPSW, custom firmware, custom IPSW firmware). The clearer one defines such a term makes the process of describing the method succinct and direct, not getting lost in translation.

My pointing out Post #11 is in response to the DEFINITION, not the method. Your comeback of pointing out Post #10 still does not detract from the issue that we are all actually talking about the same thing, but for some reason could not agree on the term to call it.

I agree though, that i was more wanting the Pwnage Tool to go further than what it is right now, to include customised IPSW package (built using IPSW Builder/IPSWTool <----term added to avoid "confusion" later ) so that each restore will be like Time Machine or *shudder* Restore Points in WinXP.

Now with that come to pass, can we move on to the ACTUAL results of those who had tried, rather than biting each other's heads(top or bottom) off? No first prize for showing who's 1337-er than the other, it's only e-penis anyway.

P/S: All lawyers go to jail. I'd rather stand a chance at entering Heaven than a "straight to Hell" card most lawyers are playing. Not to far behind are Translators though, they hold a huge burden explaining and describing their material clearly and without the benefit of doubt, otherwise they will be responsible in leading the "pack" into the wrong direction.

Hmmm ... the term IS universal whereas u can refer it to any one of it. So there is no SINGLE TERM. Universal here means that IPSW is firmware is IPSW Firmware is IPSW package ... in the end whatever u may call it ... its still the same thing ... provided u don't make new term for it that other people never heard of. (Disclaimer -- other forumer who don't understand this please stay clear or your head gonna explode from confusion ). Maybe i've been too long in this IT world that i ASSUME people would know what i meant when i LOOSELY use the term (thats within context) to describe it and hope people would get the same idea as me. My bad.

This is where i said the confusion starts where i was asking about the TOOLS used and not the DEFINITION. If u would read post #10 again u would know that I was merely asking out of curiosity about the function of the IPSW builder that the DEV team said we can customize it with any 3rd party apps that we want but there is no option to do it yet. Then in post #11 u gave the definition of what your understanding of a custome .ipsw package is regarding to my previous post (which i clearly know what the definition is). So in my opinion, your statement did not answer my question about the IPSW builder to make a custome .ipsw package. True?

Nothing in this statement (POST#11) refer to my post above (POST#10) about the TOOLS used for making the custom .ipsw package and nothing in POST#10 that i ask what is the definition for it. Thats why i said this is the point where all this bickering (discussion la) and confusion starts. U r right with the definition of what a custom .ipsw package is where as i was talking more on a higher level of customization for the .ipsw package using the IPWS builder. So i hope this clear everything.

I couldn't agree more with u on this. The possibilities for this tools are endless. This will save the time and hassle for each time we restore the phone. Unless u r a bum with a lot of time to spare doing nothing but installing back all the 3rd party apps and settings. Hehehehehehehehehe. No pun intended for anyone.

Well there was no prize at all in the first place. Just EGOS. We're not men if we don't have any hint of ego in ourselves right?

Maybe if lawyers do pro-bono work then they might stand a chance of not going "straight to Hell". Keh keh keh keh keh keh.

Anyway ... its been a good discussion with u string. Good ones.


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Sorry guys if the b****ing and biting each other scare u all away from discussing the main topic here about the pawnage tools release. My sincere apologies. Mari mari ... jangan malu jangan segan.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 4 2008, 12:04 PM

Now try to add apps into "Pwnage Tools"
Tonight I'll tested it. If I put the correct folder, I confidence it will be auto add my apps.

Hehehehe ... manage to get the BootNeuter.app working on my phone. I have not use the Pwnage tools yet. I just restore my BL 3.9FB with stock BL 4.6 and successfully unlock without losing any data. Now just have to wait the Pwnage tool for PC.

Now to hide the BootNeuter so any of my 'trigger-happy finger' friends don't accidentally run this.


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Hope this can explain it. Got this straight from MuscleNerd himself.

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Added on April 4, 2008, 2:57 pm@SEP10
The "Pwnage Tools" can add apps (other 3rd party apps i mean) into it? I thought this can only be done using "IPSW tool" from chronic dev which u gave the link.

And I would like to correct my previous statement ... the Pwnage tool does put installer in the custom .ipsw package. From the video its not visible because installer.app is not compatible with 1.2 or 2.0 firmware.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 4 2008, 02:57 PM

It can be done, because dev team add "installer app" into "custom ipsw".
And I try to add some apps. But I didnt have mac here (office) to try.
I will try it tonight.
Even I try to change that pineapple logo also. Hate it..

This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 4 2008, 03:32 PM

Hehehehe ... maybe change to our own cartoon face. Mmmmm ... better stick with the apple logo. More stylish.

Do try adding the apps and report in with the results. Thanks man.

So far has anyone tried the tool? And what's the usage of custom payload?

What tools???



Frozzbyte, I manage to bundle 4 apps into custom ipsw
1)HWinfo
2)Locateme
3)Sysinfo
4)Capture.

I want to try to bundle more apps..

This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 4 2008, 10:24 PM

Unlock iphone using Pwnage tool.

Yes Pwnage tools
wanna joint, wiling your iphone be white mouse?
Where I'm going to find more apps???

1st try
I manage to bundle 4 apps into custom ipsw
1)HWinfo
2)Locateme
3)Sysinfo
4)Capture.

*Change pineapple logo to rainbow apple

For apps that install more than "application" folder, needs to do like below..



This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 5 2008, 12:14 AM

I see ... its possible to put 3rd party apps while building the IPSW. Good Good. Maybe this is the method that will be use in the IPSW tool later. Mmmmm ... can't wait to try and create my custom ipsw.

SEP10 ... what about settings i.e plist files or pics from camera roll? Do u think its possible?

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Added on April 5, 2008, 12:27 amAaaa ok ... i looked back at your quote and understand that you only have full write access to the /Applications path only. Means that further customization to include settings and other stuff beside apps look kinda impossible. Good findings SEP10.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 5 2008, 12:27 AM

It might be posible with IPSW tool, but with IPSW bulider it only have few file that I can understand. (or file that I know to put apps into)





I think that until now, tired to reinstall apps... again and again...
run before stringfellow landing...

This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 5 2008, 12:37 AM

so this pwnage tool can only works with MAC? not windows? =_=

Coming soon Bill Gates version.

rofl... well this sux then... cause i dont have a mac

Relax bro, they said between 24hrs will realease it, sure you dont application that full of bug isn't.
Let them tested it first.

Hmmm ... it seems dat u have firmware 2.0 with you ? I can't comment anything as i can't use the tools yet.

Keh keh keh keh keh. Why o why.

No that not firmware 2.0,
That IPSW builder for firmware 2.0, dev team bundle it together.
In case if we got ehem ehem firmware 2.0 that we want to pwn

oooo i c. Can't wait to try this.

I'm only gonna get my MBP this may ... so after that i can have the best of both world. Ehehehehehe.

I'm done with "Pwnage", Let's wait for this....

I did my pwnage and now back to BL4.6!...

what if I restore with normal firmware again with itunes, will it still be BL4.6?...

Yes it will maintain your BL

thats mean permanently back to original state again...

Ya lor, unless steve put BL downgrade or upgrade into iphone new firmware loo..
So far apple never do it lo...

dudes, before you do pwning your phones or pods that note that the pwnage works very different from your jailbreak. it CAN brick your pod, and IT has happened.

i hope you dudes take note of this before doing it. if you ask why, the pwnage messes up with your booting systems, if any interruptions or anything happens. your booting gets confused and it will brick your pod

where is dude??? Who is dude??? Never mind, Brick.. Already expected..

This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 5 2008, 02:04 PM

i hope some1 can test this pawnage tool for us and give us some feedback on how was it. i'm really eager to know how good is it.

You really didn't read my post earlier haaaaa
I post until 1am, what you think I'm doing. I vampire ka??
I'm testing it ler..
OK BTW what result you want?

If you got iphone- already jailbreak and unlocked,
no bug or error. Don't use it.

If you got iphone- not jailbreak and unlocked yet.
You can proceed to "PWNAGE".

This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 5 2008, 04:14 PM

well dudes as in a term to address all in this thread

the brick is different then your jailbreak errors, this one is quite fatal and the restore wont work.

owh sorry dude. hurm, since u made it that way i don't think i need 2 use pwnage ar.

Yea no need if you didn't facing any problem with current jailbreak & unlocked.
Better wait till firmware 1.2@2.0.
Wasted time to install apps and tweaking here and there.

For those who wanna try the iPhone 1.2 5A225c Beta
Size:~177Mb

May get it from here :

Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/104899917/iPho...e_Zen.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/104899856/iPho...e_Zen.part2.rar

Instruction to unlock iPhone 2.0 Beta : http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=896

I have tried mine with the Pwnage Tool, but nothing interesting. Pls take note that the installer app is still not yet available in this version 1.2/2.0

Anyone tried the pwnage tool on the Mac yet? I'm just curious if there is any options to extract the settings, customization, etc. firmware outta the phone and save it as .ipsw so we could restore the phone back to whatever state/settings it is now?

if you takes your time and read my post above. You will know that I tested already pwnage. Some app can put into custom ipsw. Just needs to wait for ipsw tools for better.

This post has been edited by SEP910: Apr 11 2008, 05:13 PM

Ok. Thanks. But probably i should've structure my question properly. I did know you've tested pwnage, but i was just curious about creating custom ipsw.

This post has been edited by zc_squash: Apr 13 2008, 01:51 AM

When you pawn and install firmware SIM will be unlocked right away? How do you feel about pwnage tool compared to iLiberty and ziPhone?

All of it have same target, to jailbreak and unlocked iphone.
But for pwnage, unlocked will be done in your PC, its mean outside your phone.
Yes phone will unlocked right away.


All of them got same target, to unlock and jailbreak.
I feels??

Ok my opinion ler.. don't care what unlocked you used.
"Bootneuter" is important because it can erase unlocked patch BB (iLiberty or ziphone)
And we can get pure iphone back.

I think bootneuter is the best app to unlock and flash the bootloader or baseband. Still waiting for the winpwn app for windoze. Looks like winpwn have a built in IPSWtools to customize it more.

Pwnage tools tops every other tools because u don't need to do all the jailbreak, activate and unlock procedure every time u restore. Just restore with the custom IPSW and everything is done automatically. But i prefer iLiberty more to ZiPhone due to the 2 pass method it use rather than RAMDisk method (which is unstable) used in ZiPhone.

So now do your prefer liberty and zi over pwnage?

So with iLiberty (the best unlock), you will be downgraded to 3.9FakeBlank which can be upgraded back to 4.6 when needed right? ZiPhone permanently downgrades to 3.9 which is irreversable unless you hardware unlock it?

Correct me if I'm wrong...

Right now i prefer iLiberty over ZiPhone but not pwnage coz i've no access to pwnage (since i'm on windoze but not for long).

What I like about iLiberty is that u can have a custom payloads to go with the process that can make our lives easier. Now even ZiPhone copies the function by adding the payload system but still using the unstable RAMDisk method. Pwnage for me is the BEST tool so far (although i haven't personally test it).

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Added on April 13, 2008, 2:47 pmNow the question of having which bootloader is not relevant anymore with bootneuter. U can go back and forth (not recommended) just by using software method. Now people that been forcefully downgraded to BL3.9 by ZiPhone can upgrade back to BL4.6 anytime they want with bootneuter app. Bootneuter also can upgrade back the mysterious BL3.8 (google more on this for info). So now u have the chance to upgrade or downgrade without opening your iphone case.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 13 2008, 02:47 PM

im waiting for pwanage to be release on win since ive unlock/jb my phone using ziphone ..and yes now i can see the problem facing by using ziphone. My BL has been downgraded and a few application are not stable on BL3.9 on 1.1.4 firmware. Possibility due to the unstableness of the JB, my phone kinda lag now ..looking forward for Pwnage & bootneuter to upgrade back to BL4.6

thanks frozz uve been a good help

Why not borrow someone else mac to pwn the phone? ^^

as far as i know BL version isn't involved with any stability issue.

mmm...once upon a time, geohot and / or dev team told that there will be a customized hack that involves downgrading the bootloader to reach an easier hack, which is i believe is the fakeblank 3.9 and / or BootNeuter. and they told that it will not work on 3.9. that's why people are afraid to downgrade to BL3.9 that they can't get their iPhones unlocked via this method. but then, BootNeuter has arrived, and it confirms that it can be used on any BL version by turning off security check.

so having either version of bootloader is not a major concern anymore while using BootNeuter. u don't have to upgrade to BL4.6.

erms then wat does?

mmm...so far from what i've encountered, most of the instability issues r caused by some third party apps. btw by giving some time to the developers to work and to the toolchain itself to get matured (not the official SDK), it will become better and better. the platform itself is quite new, yet it has great potential.

This post has been edited by LaskarCinta: Apr 13 2008, 11:40 PM

Mmm ... i don't see the need to pwn the phone in near future unless something happen. Borrow someone else's mac? No need ... by next month or so i'll be having one myself. And by then also the winpwn will already be released. Mmmm ... then i'll have the best of both worlds ehhh.

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Added on April 14, 2008, 12:41 am@Corvinux
If u think that the BL is giving u problem (which it's not) then u can try using bootneuter to upgrade it back to BL4.6. U won't loose any data by doing so. Then u can compare whether its the culprit.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 14 2008, 12:41 AM

I'll receive my iPhone soon and might think if using pwnage tool but why you dont need to pwn? Any suggestion that what i should do with my fresh iphone?

Since u have a mac machine ... i suggest u to do the pwnage. Its an all-in-one process and really easy. I don't need pwnage right now coz mine is still functioning well and no need to be restored. Pwnage lift up the BL restriction so we can restore with custom IPSW file with all the jailbreak/activate/unlock and installer. With this we won't need to run separate application like iLiberty to do the other process. Its been done during the restoring itself. Then u got the bootneuter app to make unlocking precedure easier and upgrading or downgrading the BL with just a flick of the finger.

My advise just stay away with pwnage first until full version 2.0 was release. Unless you know what you do.

Regarding ilib and ziph, well, both was stable.

@laskarcinta & frozzy

hmm point taken..nevertheless i would still wanna try..see if there's any different in term of lags & the application as well on either BL3.9 & BL 4.6 thanks!

@moonflown
welcome!! jes dont brick the phone!

Version 2.0? You means the iPhone firmware? What is it gonna do with pwnage tool?

He mean that you should pwnage your phone when firmware 2.0 is out.

U can pwn the phone now .. why need to wait for ver2.0. U just need to pwn once and it stays pwned until u restore with the stock IPSW file. When firmware 2.0 comes out ... we no need to pwn the phone again ... just make the custom IPSW with IPSW builder and restore (i don't know if we can just upgrade) the phone. No need to wait for firmware 2.0 to pwn the phone. The pwn state will last as long as we don't restore with the stock IPSW.

That means you just have to restore IPSW everytime we upgrade firmware? I thought we just need to change bootneuter?

No need. Pwn and bootneuter only need to do once and it stays. If u need to restore back to original setting i.e. u want to send back for warranty ... then u just need to set back bootneuter to default and restore with stock IPSW file. If new firmware comes out ... we just need to make a custom IPSW file with the IPSW builder and restore with it. I'm not sure about upgrading with custom firmware though ... i'll ask around. I know your concern, either we need to restore fresh and loose all data everytime new firmware comes out.

This post has been edited by frozzbyte: Apr 14 2008, 07:46 PM

Yea that's what I'm worry about. But I heard pwnage will enable users to update directly from itunes.

mmm...i only know bout this today:
WinPwn
btw it's still beta. at least windows users have a way to pwn their iPhone using their box.

Installed it at office computer. Still in early stage and lots of the features are been greyed/disabled but the main features are there. Don't dare to try on my phone since its still in beta test. If got another phone to play then i surely tried this already.

hm sorry guys, after reading 5 pages of the posts i still dont get it. what is this pwnage tool? what is firmware2.0? what is custom ipsw? can someone help me out with this?

I've received my iPhone yesterday and unlocked it with pwnage tool. Now it's exactly like I'm using AT&T in US. No problem at all.

Today, I just test the latest version of pwnage tool to change
iphone boot up and recovery image. This tool was very easy
to use but the tool is currently for mac only.




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Have Fun

This post has been edited by hackdplanet: May 8 2008, 09:44 AM

Topic Merged.

It was easy to enter the recovery mode after Pwnage iPhone.
No need to press and hold home button and power switch,
just press home button and hold it while plugging the usb connector
and it will enter the recovery mode.

If the iPhone was switch off, it will automatic switch on if you place it
on the dock.

Errr ... u can do that without pwning the phone. Or am I wrong?