We will never know when'll be the next super bull.

Yes...and we never when it will end until we are deep in the bear run.

Similarly, we never know when this bear is going to be tired & start hibernating.

So, set your target!

This post has been edited by kingkong81: Dec 9 2008, 09:14 PM

But then how do we know how much is the return? Let's say if the targeted return is 10%? Any formula to calculate?

This post has been edited by mustang: Dec 10 2008, 10:03 PM

Your agent should be able to teach or tell you this.

u can just ask ur agent to do tat la .. u paid them le 5% some more .. think the agent will get 2% rite .. so anything just ask them generate for u .. at anytime u also can ask ur agent to generate all ur funds statement to see the performance $

Utilize your paid upfront service charge of 5.5% to understand the fund that you have invested or been investing. It's your right to dig information from your servicing agent.

Though I am an agent as well...I am 100% agree with this statement.

at least you r aware of how your funds r doing. Constant communications with your agent can help them serve you better, as they know wat is your needs

Guys, I would post some questions here. I am an mutual fund investor and I think most of all the investors out are worry about the world economy right now.

As recently we heard about 3 giant in US needed backup or they will fall flat to the ground and just a few days ago SONY announced they will cut 8000 jobs.

Well the question is should I keep continue to keep what investment that I am having now or should I sell it now?

This is my answer in another thread:
It's not meant to be a right or wrong advice, but that's my strategy.

I think b00n has given quite a comprehensive answer.

In any case...if you follow the market & look back long enuf... Market is running like a cycle...

When it reached too high...it will go down...
When it fell too low...it will go back up...

The main unknown here is WHEN??? no 1 knows....but we know it will surely go back up.

It is understandable in your fear...so do we all...not many people have personally witness 1997 crisis before (at least I am not), so the fear is normal.

But in investment we have to be discipline enuf to stick to our goal...in Unit Trust...long term growth.

So meaning we need to always check with our agents from time to time? Or the agent will update us.. If there is a way to look at it ourselves it will be faster and easier?

Log in lowyat forum to get the latest updates

For mutual fund or unit trust, can check from daily newspaper ler....no need to call agent from time to time.

If you wanna check on prices...juz logon into Public Mutual Website, they update the prices daily. For local funds, u can see the price on the night itself...around 8pm+. For funds with foreign countries investment it is on T+1 basis. Means u will see Monday price on Tuesday (usually after 11am).

For newspaper...the pricing is T+3...means you will only see monday price on Wednesday newspaper.

Agent can give you a more comprehensive update than just prices...can let you know the % return,
else u juz calculate yourself from prices oso can, but when the there are a lot transactions...then it is quite difficult

http://www.invest.com.my has both daily prices and % returns for most if not all funds available locally.

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Added on
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Just realised they have now become a subscription site. haiz...

This post has been edited by howszat: Dec 15 2008, 10:10 AM

8 Reasons To Dump A Mutual Fund

Many financial advisors and academics do not recommend selling stocks and mutual funds when prices are tumbling during bear markets. If you can just hold on through thick and thin, they argue, you are likely to enjoy returns better than any other asset class over the long run: an average annual yield of 6.5-7% after inflation, according to Professor Jeremy Siegel's, "Stocks for the Long Run" (1994).

However, there are occasions when selling a mutual fund might be warranted. Buy and hold is not forever. Here we look at the top eight reasons for selling a mutual fund.

1. Portfolio Rebalancing
Over time, trends in financial markets might cause asset allocations to diverge from desired settings. In other words, some mutual funds can grow to a large proportion of the portfolio while others shrink to a smaller proportion, exposing you to a different level of risk.

To avoid this outcome, the portfolio can be rebalanced periodically by selling units in funds that have relatively large weights and transferring the proceeds to funds that have relatively small weights. Under this rule, the time to sell equity mutual funds is when they have enjoyed good gains over an extended bull market and the percentage allocated to them has drifted up too high.

2. Mutual Fund Changes or Mismanagement
Mutual funds might change in a number of ways that can be at odds with your original reasons for buying. For example, a star portfolio manager could jump ship and be replaced by someone lacking the same capabilities. Or there may be style drift, which arises when a manager gradually alters his or her investing approach over time.

Other signals to move on include an upward trend in annual management expense ratios (MERs) or a fund that has grown large relative to the market. If the fund has grown large compared to the market, managers could have difficulty differentiating their portfolios from the market in order to earn above-market returns.

3. Investor Growth
As you gain experience and acquire more wealth, you may outgrow mutual funds. With greater wealth comes the ability to buy enough individual stocks to achieve adequate diversification and avoid MERs. And with greater knowledge comes the confidence to do it yourself, whether it is actively picking stocks or buying and holding market indexes through exchange-traded funds (ETFs).

4. Life Cycle Changes
Although stocks historically have been the best investments to own over the long run, their volatility makes them unreliable vehicles in the short term. When retirement, children's post-secondary educations, or some other funding requirements approach, a good idea is to shift out of stock-market funds into assets that have more certain returns, such as bonds or term deposits, whose maturities coincide with the time that the funds will be needed.

5. Mistakes
Sometimes, investors' due diligence is incomplete and they end up owning funds they otherwise would have not purchased. For example, the investor might discover that the fund is too volatile for their tastes, a closet-index fund with a high MER, or invested in undesirable securities.

Portfolio errors might also have been committed by the investor. A common mistake is over-diversifying with too many funds, which can be difficult to keep tabs on and can tend to average out to market performance (less fund fees).

Another common misstep is to confuse owning a large number of funds with diversification. A large number of funds will not smooth out fluctuations if they tend to move in the same direction. What's needed is a collection of funds, of which some can be expected to be up when others are down.

6. Valuation
Shift out of mutual funds to rebalance your fixed portfolio allocations by using a flexible or opportunistic approach. A common valuation yardstick is the price-earnings ratio (P/E ratio); for U.S. stocks, it has averaged 14 to 15 over time, so if it rises to 24 to 26, valuations are overextended and the risk of a downturn is elevated.

7. Something Better Comes Along
Investing legend Sir John Templeton advised selling whenever something better came along. In the mutual fund realm, some funds can come onto the market with innovations that are better at doing what your fund is doing. Or, over time, it may become apparent other portfolio managers are performing better against the same benchmarks.

8. Tax Reduction
Mutual funds held in taxable accounts might be down substantially from their purchase price. They can be sold to realize capital losses that are used to offset taxable capital gains and thus lower taxes.

If the sale was solely to realize a capital loss for taxation purposes, the investor will want to re-establish the position after the 30-day period required to avoid the superficial-loss rule. The investor might take a chance that the price will be the same, lower or might choose to hold a proxy for the fund's price movement.

Tax-loss selling tends to occur during August to late December. That's also the period when many funds have estimated the capital gains and income they will be distributing to investors at year end. These amounts are taxable in the hands of the investor, so an additional reason to sell a losing fund from the tax point of view may be to avoid a large year-end distribution that would require paying additional taxes.

Conclusion
Although these eight reasons should compel you to consider getting rid of your fund, remember to keep the impact of deferred sales charges, short-term trading fees and taxes in mind whenever you sell. If these other factors don't fall in your favor, it may not be the best time to get out.


URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/8-Reasons-To...a-13834092.html

can i switch my PBCPEF to PMMF or PIAEF or PDSF ? ant charges ?

U cannot switch from a PB series fund to Public series fund...

switching can only be from PB series to PB series

Public series to public series

i do think dollar cost averaging strategy is da best now... put rm100 permonth is ok wat

Best way to invest RM50,000 now

Have some cash to invest? Three experts were asked what would be the best way to invest RM50,000 and below are their responses.

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