Well thanks again Jean,,,and can the statement from SC confirm this is a scam?

anyway license are needed for collecting public money for investment while accepting money to buy prepaid food or membership programs are not mandatory to owned any specific public money collecting licenses from the authorities...right??? can help comment...TQTQ 

But having to provide return from the RM 3000 would be deems as a form of investment, won't it? At least this is the impression I got from you all these while. I am not sure the others...

From the start till now, I have never used the word "scam" because I can't confirm that.  My objective is never to prove you wrong or to prove anyone here right, I am merely interested to make sure the members and the potential members' welfare is protected.

Steven's corner isn't a small mamak stall, n from my understanding, i can always c oug,genting klang, n pandan jaya SC have lots of customers! in any logical mind and common sense, it tells me they don't need to collect money from me to start other branch! if they dnt hv the kind of money to expand, dont expand! simple logic! either there is some1 using Steven's Corner's name to create SCAM or Steven's Corner really out of their mind

You have a point. But right now, everyone involved knew it's Steven Corner.
There are possibilities that when a SCAM is over, everyone can deny and claim someone lese is using their name.

This has happened before. A few years ago, www.bighoohaa.com used MLM method and claimed to be owned by Berjaya went off with a lot of money. After nearly 1 year, all the people involved claimed the Company behind it ran away and when someone called up Berjaya Group, they said they never heard or know anything. The irony is during the time that website was in operation collecting monies, their website had nearly all of Berjaya's subsidiaries mentioned and that website could stay throughout the scam period for nearly one year.

So in the case od Steven's Corner, as it is using a pyramid system, lets say if everyone in Malaysia joined in and if there is no more new members to join, the operators scan just go off or just close off the old mamak stall and the new one Steven's Tea Graden can claim they are not the one operating the MLM membership, or vice-versa.

There are many ways that a Company can cheap, in different names.

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Added on June 27, 2008, 10:49 pm
Exactly. The operators can give the explaination that they are not collecting money for "investment" but collecting money for "prepaid to eat". No it's definitely legal.
The suspicious factor is not on the "reason" or "excuse" for the money collected but how the "method" the money is collected. Our promoter SilliCon here never mentioned on the recuitment part which they are using the MLM system, I wonder why ? He probablky know that by admitting to MLM or pyramid scheme, we can SMELL scams better.

So one should ask whether they have a direct-selling license to operate such a scheme. Anyway, even if they have a license(which is easily bought from another Company for around RM70K to RM100K), it couyld still be a scam.

It has been the same for all pyramid scams in the past. The SC will always reply that such schemes have nothing to do with them.

I wonder if SilliCon can give details of the commissons pay scheme here to shair with us ?

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Added on June 27, 2008, 10:53 pm
Take note. There are at least 3 different Stevens Corner Sdn Bhd here. Let's say one or 2 go bust, bankrupt or caught, the others Company will not be affected, just transfer all the funds and can still continue running business.

i wont put any money in any scheme AT ALL that was created by bunch of ex-boss of mlm aka scam such as e-barrel.....

fortunately they won't able to scam any of lowyat members 

WHY WOULD ANY LEGITIMATE COMPANY DO THAT?!!

you mean stevens corner boss is ex MLM scammer? what is this e barrel do? got website? pls PM me the link..Thks.

wow.. congrate if u are one of them..
i working with sunway, ya..i saw them under the tenant list already.
good sourcing of money with this way..
cant believe it involve lowyat-ian..
anyway... keep going ya

Since SC's is not a investment scheme (based on SC reply), so there is no issue join or not join, as those money from individual public is not investing in SC as one doesn't become shareholders or whatsoever based on the letter reply on SC, so if the SC's scheme is legitimate, the RM3000 is just a prepaid which they give extra bonus in their prepaid scheme.

Above statement is based on interpretation from information gathered by forumers. Not based on opinion.

I have not comment on the SC issue until it is clear.

cherroy,
Thanks for the neutral comment.Actually the SC your mentioning here is referring to Security Commission or Steven's Corner....anyway it is Steven's Tea Garden (STG)...

This is definitely a MLM scheme. Silicon has also used other nickname, chrissolution to do recruitment in another forum PJ net. Sililcon will not admit that this is MLM for 3 reasons:

a) MLM promotion is not allowed here,

b) Steven Corners, at this moment do not have a direct-sale license, so they will not admit it's MLM. But they have appointed some people to bargain around for a MLM Company at the cheapest price possible. Once achieved, they can do this business more openly,

c) Admitting that it is MLM will turn-off many people, so they rather not admit it.(although sonner or later, they must get a MLM license in order to make their business more legal-appearing.)

Right ? Silicon ? If you don't get any benefits, will anyone like you want to promote for them ? Unless you are representing the Stevens Corner.

To those who don't believe, just walk right in to Stevens Corner and ask around, someone will be most willing to occupied there. More than 50% of their tables are occupied by their members-customers every night, trying to prey on their new victims.

Or you may also google, I already found a site with someone clearly stating the whole MLM scheme.

Steven Corners boss is NOT a ex-MLMers but they got involved with some ex-MLMers to do this new scheme after they saw the nearby Island Red Cafe did well.

It will not make any difference whether a scam is own by any ex-Conman, ex-MLMers or not. Any scammer or conman have their FIRST job. After that, they will be EX.

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Added on June 29, 2008, 4:05 pmI wish to add that telling people that Steven Corners have been listed as a tenant in Sunway Pyramid do NOT mean much and also do not mean that it is a safe, honest or genuine business.

The lot and money spent in Sunway pryamid is NOTHING much compared to what Sunshine Empire spent and occupied in Jalan Yap Kwan Seng.

It is the ways and methods that this Steven Corners and someone active here promoting it that showed this whole scheme is SUSPICIOUS and I will call it a scam !!

Google and read more about MLM pyramid schemes and ponzi schemes.

thanks for telling us dude. appreciate it.

Errr.... I am confused now, it is Steven's Corner or Steven's Tea Garden that we are discussing on?

Please bare with me, as I don't follow this thread closely, just look at thread title (Steven's Corner) only.

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Added on June 30, 2008, 10:31 am
Thanks for the neutral comment.Actually the SC your mentioning here is referring to Security Commission or Steven's Corner....anyway it is Steven's Tea Garden (STG)...

Brother...you always ask ppl to do this and do that..but did you do IT???? "To those who don't believe, just walk right in to Stevens Corner and ask around, someone will be most willing to occupied there. More than 50% of their tables are occupied by their members-customers every night, trying to prey on their new victims.

Errr.... I am confused now, it is Steven's Corner or Steven's Tea Garden that we are discussing on?

Please bare with me, as I don't follow this thread closely, just look at thread title (Steven's Corner) only.

i've stopped going to steven's corner for almost 5 years, i think over the years their prices have hiked up like mad and honestly speaking, i think their quality is getting worse by the day.

i'm speaking as a regular patron since the 80s, when steven's corner was still just a stall by the road side. when the business grew big, the prices went up, and the quality went down, i was so disappointed.

rebranding the looks would do nothing to entice me unless they improve the quality of their food first.