Nokia [Nokia N82 Official Thread V2], Storytelling rediscovered continues...
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 May 25 2008, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 25 2008, 08:38 PM) How long do we need to charge the battery? 2 hours? about there, the phone will give you a peep sound indicates the battery is fully charged. |
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May 25 2008, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(aitoshi @ May 25 2008, 03:36 PM) You can check Nokia Battery Genuine by checking the battery code. You just key in your battery code at the nokia homepage. They will tell you whether your battery is genuine/new or not. hey if u wan fully protect ur hp..I just own a Nokia N82 black. I found that the casing is easy to get scratches. Any recommendation on how to protect the casing? Where can buy? go skin ur hp.. transparent skin... i found it is cheap to skin in digital mall. only rm40.. |
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May 25 2008, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(handsomeguyz @ May 25 2008, 09:16 PM) hey if u wan fully protect ur hp.. Hi, Thanks for your recommendation.go skin ur hp.. transparent skin... i found it is cheap to skin in digital mall. only rm40.. I am staying in jb. Do u know where I can buy in JB? For the transparent skin, could you share your skinned N82 photo? Curious to know how it look like.  |
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May 25 2008, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ May 25 2008, 07:45 PM) DO NOT overcharge Li-Ion battery...your battery lifespan will be shortened if you do so. WOW sukhoi37 i think you should do your research more rather than jump into conclusion.Maybe when u r free try to read something here ---> http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm before making such remarks. A unique drawback of the Li-ion battery is that its life span is dependent upon aging from time of manufacturing (shelf life) regardless of whether it was charged, and not just on the number of charge/discharge cycles. So an older battery will not last as long as a new battery due solely to its age, unlike other batteries. KTHXBAI! This post has been edited by snakevenom: May 25 2008, 11:41 PM |
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May 26 2008, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(aitoshi @ May 25 2008, 11:36 PM) Hi, Thanks for your recommendation. haha. u in jb r..I am staying in jb. Do u know where I can buy in JB? For the transparent skin, could you share your skinned N82 photo? Curious to know how it look like. i think u can find in city square gua.. i also not so sure. i been to jb quite often also.. will back jb june for holiday.. ehhe i didnt skin my hp. coz i don use long for every hp.. so no point skinning.. i just put inside a pouch all the time.. so far all the hp i used bef is just like new.. actually it is doesnt look much different after skinning., coz it is transparent n just look like screen protector.. maybe ur hp housing colour will look bit dim only.. but i think it is good way to protect ur hp.. This post has been edited by handsomeguyz: May 26 2008, 01:11 AM |
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May 26 2008, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(snakevenom @ May 25 2008, 11:37 PM) WOW sukhoi37 i think you should do your research more rather than jump into conclusion. WOW brother, I dun get your quote from the article. Maybe when u r free try to read something here ---> http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm before making such remarks. A unique drawback of the Li-ion battery is that its life span is dependent upon aging from time of manufacturing (shelf life) regardless of whether it was charged, and not just on the number of charge/discharge cycles. So an older battery will not last as long as a new battery due solely to its age, unlike other batteries. KTHXBAI!  What i said in my previous post is overcharging Li-Ion battery will shorten its lifespan. ya it's true that I didn't do my research. but I heard about the info from a very experience technical person. And i'd spent my time to read that article. This is what i got which is similar to what i'm trying to say. QUOTE What happens if a battery is inadvertently overcharged? lithium-ion is designed to operate safely within their normal operating voltage but become unstable if charged to higher voltages. When charging above 4.30V, the cell causes plating of metallic lithium on the anode; the cathode material becomes an oxidizing agent, loses stability and releases oxygen. Overcharging causes the cell to heat up. If left unattended, the cell could vent with flame. You are the one who jump into conclusion too fast.  Added on May 26, 2008, 1:15 am QUOTE(aitoshi @ May 25 2008, 11:36 PM) Hi, Thanks for your recommendation. dude, get this.I am staying in jb. Do u know where I can buy in JB? For the transparent skin, could you share your skinned N82 photo? Curious to know how it look like. http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=1783504 Invisible Shield. The seller is in SG Yishun. Cost SGD35 with FOC pasting service.  This post has been edited by sukhoi37: May 26 2008, 01:17 AM |
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May 26 2008, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE What happens if a battery is inadvertently overcharged? lithium-ion is designed to operate safely within their normal operating voltage but become unstable if charged to higher voltages. When charging above 4.30V, the cell causes plating of metallic lithium on the anode; the cathode material becomes an oxidizing agent, loses stability and releases oxygen. Overcharging causes the cell to heat up. If left unattended, the cell could vent with flame. Tell me if my interpretation from this quote is correct. If I charge my phone battery using a charger with higher voltage for long hours will damage the battery. If I charge my phone battery using a charger with lower voltage for long hours will not damage the battery. |
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May 26 2008, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(handsomeguyz @ May 26 2008, 01:08 AM) haha. u in jb r.. Hi Handsome,i think u can find in city square gua.. i also not so sure. i been to jb quite often also.. will back jb june for holiday.. ehhe i didnt skin my hp. coz i don use long for every hp.. so no point skinning.. i just put inside a pouch all the time.. so far all the hp i used bef is just like new.. actually it is doesnt look much different after skinning., coz it is transparent n just look like screen protector.. maybe ur hp housing colour will look bit dim only.. but i think it is good way to protect ur hp.. Your hometown in JB? I will try to search in City Square. Currently, I am using pouch now. It is quite inconvenient to take out from pouch especially while i am driving. My budget is below RM50 |
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May 26 2008, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 26 2008, 08:00 AM) Tell me if my interpretation from this quote is correct. Lithium-ion batteries can rupture, ignite, or explode when exposed to high temperature environments, for example in an area that is prone to prolonged direct sunlight. Short-circuiting a Li-ion battery can cause it to ignite or explode, and as such, any attempt to open or modify a Li-ion battery's casing or circuitry is dangerous. Li-ion batteries contain safety devices that protect the cells inside from abuse, and, if damaged, can cause the battery to ignite or explode.If I charge my phone battery using a charger with higher voltage for long hours will damage the battery. If I charge my phone battery using a charger with lower voltage for long hours will not damage the battery. Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life * Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a long time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40% - 60%. Lithium-ion batteries should not be frequently fully discharged and recharged ("deep-cycled") like Ni-Cd batteries, but this is necessary after about every 30th recharge to recalibrate any external electronic "fuel gauge" (e.g. State Of Charge meter). This prevents the fuel gauge from showing an incorrect battery charge. * Li-ion batteries should never be depleted to below their minimum voltage, 2.4v to 3.0v per cell. * Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly. * Li-ion batteries should not be frozen (most lithium-ion battery electrolytes freeze at approximately −40 C; however, this is much colder than the lowest temperature reached by household freezers). * Li-ion batteries should be bought only when needed, because the aging process begins as soon as the battery is manufactured. This post has been edited by snakevenom: May 26 2008, 08:47 AM |
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May 26 2008, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ May 26 2008, 01:13 AM) WOW brother, I dun get your quote from the article. Thanks for your recommendation. What i said in my previous post is overcharging Li-Ion battery will shorten its lifespan. ya it's true that I didn't do my research. but I heard about the info from a very experience technical person. And i'd spent my time to read that article. This is what i got which is similar to what i'm trying to say. You are the one who jump into conclusion too fast. Added on May 26, 2008, 1:15 am dude, get this. http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=1783504 Invisible Shield. The seller is in SG Yishun. Cost SGD35 with FOC pasting service. Too expensive lor. Convert to Ringgit is RM83. Any recommendation in JB area? |
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May 26 2008, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(aitoshi @ May 26 2008, 08:51 AM) Thanks for your recommendation. It's the best protection for your n82.Too expensive lor. Convert to Ringgit is RM83. Any recommendation in JB area? it covers almost full body of the phone. it also has lifetime scratchless warranty. no more pouch needed with this shield. don't try those crystal case, it will scratch your phone. |
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May 26 2008, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 24 2008, 02:19 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « (2) Most likely due to one/some apps that you installed, which is running and taking up the processor/memory resources all the time. This app(s) might also be the source of battery draining fast. e.g. I have one game called Diamond Twister. If I leave this app open in the background even without playing it, my full charge battery will go down to zero in 6-8 hrs. If I close it, my battery can last 24-48 hrs. (3) No idea yet. Try install to overwrite it and uninstall to clear everything. (4) Depends on what game. My NFS Pro Street drains full charge within 2-3 hrs if I'm playing it continuously. (5) Plug in the micro-SD as USB/Card Reader into PC and delete it. Do not simply kill any process, as it might have consequences, such as what you encounter. (6) I don't have problem transfering 2GB of data using USB Cable. Battery does not go down even 1 bar. But it takes somewhere 40-50min. |
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May 26 2008, 12:30 PM
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Looking to buy this phone but judging from responses, the battery life is pretty weak. 2 days at most for normal usage?
I'm using k750 now and I can go a week without charging so I'm quite hesitant to put my money down just yet. |
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May 26 2008, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(Smy @ May 26 2008, 12:30 PM) Looking to buy this phone but judging from responses, the battery life is pretty weak. 2 days at most for normal usage? it depends on your usage.I'm using k750 now and I can go a week without charging so I'm quite hesitant to put my money down just yet. but i think maximum would be 3days.  maybe this is normal for such feature packed phone? my w810i also can last for 1 week. powerful camera, built-in GPS receiver, wifi, ngage, mp3 player...etc this phone is just too powerful to resist.  W960 should be another nice choice. i heard its battery is remarkably long lasting. (from GSMarena review) but it's out of my list after seeing so many ppl complaining about the problems they got with this phone. |
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May 26 2008, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Smy @ May 26 2008, 12:30 PM) Looking to buy this phone but judging from responses, the battery life is pretty weak. 2 days at most for normal usage? This is normal for most Nokia N Series phone. It can last 0.5-3 days... averaging 1-1.5 days only. Of course, it depends on your usage.I'm using k750 now and I can go a week without charging so I'm quite hesitant to put my money down just yet. e.g. My friend N95 can only last 0.5-1 day on every weekday  with the standard recommendation off. (WiFi off, on GSM only, no apps/screensaver/default, etc.) original avaxx.Not forgetting Nokia 16M colour LCD eats up more battery juice than SE 256k LCD, as claimed... Some measure, I have dual charger in office and home. Mobile charger in car (for GPS). Otherwise, if battery is your main concern, I suggest don't get N Series phones |
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May 26 2008, 04:00 PM
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IMHO, j ust call and sms and using GSM no 3G should last u a least 5 days. I dunno. Never tested. Where can got so super cun hp and never use camera, play games or gps. better buy 3310.
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May 26 2008, 04:18 PM
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Add me to the list
N82 Black AP(Singapore)-set RM1450 |
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May 26 2008, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(NewKid @ May 26 2008, 04:00 PM) IMHO, j ust call and sms and using GSM no 3G should last u a least 5 days. I dunno. Never tested. Where can got so super cun hp and never use camera, play games or gps. better buy 3310. Believe it or not, when I'm using the old 8210 previously (black and white LCD) it can last me 4-7 days, depending on how many calls I made, which is similiar to my current usage now. Just for calls and sms only. Somemore ringing tone is loud  Bottom line is, the more complicated the device, the more battery juice it will drain. But perhaps, there might be some exceptions. |
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May 26 2008, 04:25 PM
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Mayb there is sumthing wrong with the OS tat leaked app to run and drain the battery.....Hopefully there is a patch to resolve this low battery issues.
BTW i got an error when i access the gallery..."Memory full,close the application and try again" message keep popping up when scrolling thru img and video.Did anyone have this problem? This post has been edited by Terence573: May 26 2008, 04:27 PM |
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May 26 2008, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(snakevenom @ May 26 2008, 08:45 AM) Lithium-ion batteries can rupture, ignite, or explode when exposed to high temperature environments, for example in an area that is prone to prolonged direct sunlight. Short-circuiting a Li-ion battery can cause it to ignite or explode, and as such, any attempt to open or modify a Li-ion battery's casing or circuitry is dangerous. Li-ion batteries contain safety devices that protect the cells inside from abuse, and, if damaged, can cause the battery to ignite or explode. Thank you snakevenom. This is very good information on Li-ion batteries.Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life * Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a long time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40% - 60%. Lithium-ion batteries should not be frequently fully discharged and recharged ("deep-cycled") like Ni-Cd batteries, but this is necessary after about every 30th recharge to recalibrate any external electronic "fuel gauge" (e.g. State Of Charge meter). This prevents the fuel gauge from showing an incorrect battery charge. * Li-ion batteries should never be depleted to below their minimum voltage, 2.4v to 3.0v per cell. * Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly. * Li-ion batteries should not be frozen (most lithium-ion battery electrolytes freeze at approximately −40 C; however, this is much colder than the lowest temperature reached by household freezers). * Li-ion batteries should be bought only when needed, because the aging process begins as soon as the battery is manufactured. |
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