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post May 11 2008, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(highwindz88 @ May 11 2008, 07:25 PM)
Yup inside Garmin>Application>_palbtn  folder has this .mbm files, i already "right click properties set to hidden"
but still appearing in my Gallery

At C) U said set to hidden right? at D) U said delete palbtn folders and subdirectories under it? Means no need set hidden but can just delete all these palbtn files and won't do harm to garmin?
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Those files under _palbtn are the thumbnail images you see in gallery. It is not used by garmin. Yes, you can delete _palbtn and all the subdirectories and files. If it is missing, gallery will auto create when it found relevant images file in the particular folder when you restart gallery.

Just set the actual/original image files to hidden (.mbm, etc.)
Then close and open gallery to refresh it, or try restart your N82.
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post May 12 2008, 03:12 PM

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(1) If you use Connect as PC Suite

(i) PC must install PC Suite (easiest) or some data cable connectivity drivers.
(ii) Open Windows Explorer
-> My Computer
-> Nokia Phone Browser
-> N82
-> Memory card/Phone memory
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(2) If you use Connect as USB Transfer

(i) Open Windows Explorer
-> My Computer
-> [x:] Removable Disk is your memory card.

*** If you plug out and insert using USB Reader, it is quite similiar as #2.

Method (2) can view memory card only, including hidden files (if you set to view in Windows Explorer)
Method (1) can view both phone and card memory, and also perform SMS, etc.
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post May 12 2008, 04:13 PM

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Pass by Low-Yat Plaza just now. SanDisk 8GB micro-SD package is selling at RM149 shocking.gif at one of the bigger retailer on Level 2. wink.gif

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post May 13 2008, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 12 2008, 06:03 PM)
SD nowadays dirt cheap... soon 8GB to break the RM100 barrier..
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By the time it goes below rm100, the 16GB sweat.gif should have launch and retail around rm200-250 rclxms.gif


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post May 13 2008, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 13 2008, 01:49 PM)
yeah, then have to wait for someone here to verify if N82 can take 16GB card..  biggrin.gif
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Already verified by Nokia, N82 can support 16GB and 32GB micro-SD HC.

32GB is the max limit for SD HC ISO standardization, although the theoretical limit is somewhere around 2TB if I remember correctly.

SD

QUOTE(areankim @ May 13 2008, 03:40 PM)
guys.. my multimedia key(above C) when i press the screen flashes then nothing happend.

sienzzz, i tried changing the theme d... but still the same.

what possible is the problem?
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I suspect something wrong with the OS (firmware). hmm.gif

I encounter once, with the zero (0) button. In the main screen, when you press and hold zero key, it will launch web browser. Mine didn't after install/uninstall many apps.

What I did is backup phone memory, the set to factory default, then download and overwrite the firmware, and restore the phone memory. The zero button works again. Yes, very pain in the... S.
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post May 13 2008, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(areankim @ May 13 2008, 05:49 PM)
wa... replace? how to do that? well.. actually the button i dint use much la.. but just that... not happy la.. the button not working well.. haha... mayb the next time i update my firmware it will be ok.

i agree with u that it's about the firmware la.
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If you ask me, I prefer that stupid multimedia key not working, as I don't use it (yet) and sometimes press wrongly.

Better still if can reprogram it to be the pen+edit key rclxms.gif

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post May 14 2008, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(lil twist @ May 13 2008, 07:50 PM)
1 question... i have already updated the firmware to the latest one, and i found out that when i press the end call key, it will freeze for few seconds (10+) before it dissappear... y is this happening?? unsure.gif
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There is a known problem with the end call key. If you end a call, and press end-key (red colour) repetitive, it will hang the phone.

Solution: Press once only. If you press multiple times, relax... let go of the button... wait 10 sec, it will resume as normal.
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post May 14 2008, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(unipati @ May 14 2008, 10:38 AM)
Hi guys

Fully charge n82 on Friday 1607hrs (9/5/08)
Now Wed battery warning is running low
Only use it to call one number only (39seconds)
Bluetooth was disabled, didnt use camera or radio or sms
According to the manual standby should be 210hrs (8.75days)
Is this normal? battery last for 4days only? Less than 50%

Disable wlan scanning the manual says will save battery consumption.
How to do that?

Thanks
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210 hrs are under laboratory testing, i.e. controlled environment. Different telco provider, on different frequency (GSM900/1800/WCDMA/etc), different location with different signal strength, etc. will drain more battery juice.

To get 210 hrs,
(1) fully charge the battery.
(2) take out your SIM card or set the phone to Offline.
(3) switch on and let it at your desk until it runs out of battery. Also ensure the environment is at 20-25C with minimum humidity.

I tested with my previous N80, with SIM card and minimum usage as you stated above, last 3-4 days only. Without SIM card/Offline, it last me 7-9 days.

Recommendation:
(1) Disable wireless - Set wireless scanning = off
(2) Use GSM on default. If you need to browse/video call, then only set to 3G(UMTS) mode.
(3) Disable as much apps running in the background (press and hold Menu). Also uninstall those screensaver, etc.

BTW, for those who experience short battery life, do you mind to state whether your set is original/AP and also you think your battery is original/AP.
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post May 14 2008, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(unipati @ May 14 2008, 12:05 PM)
Hi

The battery and phone is original.
As at 1200hrs battery still got one bar left (life is 4days 20hrs ++ ).
Will try the phone without any sim card after battery really dead and recharge.
Maybe can then try different sim card (digi maxis celcom) and see which telco consume most power.

Any1 want to ta pau me going out to lunch.
Will report back later.
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Using my previous Nokia 6230 (with EDGE), I notice there are different power consumption between DiGi and Maxis in Klang Valley. Using DiGi can last 50% longer time, based on average usage on both SIM cards. Similiar locations and environment.

Your N82 can last 4 days is already good. Mine last from 0.5-2 days max only. tongue.gif I can guarantee you, no way N82 can last 7 days or more if you are connected to Celcom/DiGi/Maxis (not Offline).

Are you really going to put N82 aside for 8-10 days to test out the battery ? hmm.gif
Then you use old/previous phone temporary ?
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post May 14 2008, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(spoon2272 @ May 14 2008, 12:55 PM)
u guys pls help me choose between N95 n N82 which nicer??going to buy either one tomorrow  rclxub.gif
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Obviously, you are asking in a bias thread. Most will say N82. rolleyes.gif

Again, it all depends on your individual preference:
1) Which is nicer in your own eyes ? N82/N95 ?
2) Do you prefer candy bar / slide ?
3) Is 0.2 inch bigger screen really matter to you ? 2.4" vs 2.6" ?
4) Most people claim N95 music player quality is better. However, N81 is the best (among N series) as claimed.
5) Is a xenon flash camera matter to you ?

Other smaller things like:
6) Can you live with N82 cannot stand sideway by itself ?
7) Battery life will be similiar between N82 & N95
8) Small keys on keypad ?
etc.
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post May 15 2008, 04:45 PM

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What is AE ? I'm lost in Hi-Fi... tongue.gif share share lah.
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post May 16 2008, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(clsia1001 @ May 16 2008, 11:32 AM)
No..8GB microSD only have Class 4 at the moment i bought...so mine is class 4...So do you have any solution on this?

I want to know where is the SMS folder as well. What I do now is connect phone using bluetooth then use phone browser to access the phone... smile.gif
Maybe ur key not match...ur map is which version?
wait, now ur prob is ur garmin cant detect ur internal gps right? why related to keygen v malsing gold version sweat.gif
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This will be very interesting for some of you wink.gif

SMS in Phone Memory = C:\
Memory Card = E:\
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Wondering if LYN has points system for users to vote/thanks the poster if it is informative and thumbup.gif
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Everything seems to be stored in E:\private\1000484b\Mail2

In there is a file called Index, which appears to contain, surprise surprise, an index of all the messages sent and received.

There are also several directories, the only one of which that is obviously related to messaging is 00001001_S. In there are 16 subdirectories, 0 to 9 and a to f, so basically the 16 hex digits. What I don't know is how the system decides which messages go in which folder, but the structure of what's in each of them is as follows.

In the single hex digit subdirectory, for each message there's a file of which the name is a string of 8 hex digits. Apparently all of them start with 00101. For example, one of them on my handset is:

E:\private\1000484b\Mail2\00001001_S\e\001014ee

If the message has attachments, such as would an e-mail with attachments, a picture message or a file sent by BlueTooth, then there is also a directory with the same name as the main file with "_F" appended for messaged received, or "_S" for messages sent. In the case of my example above:

E:\private\1000484b\Mail2\00001001_S\e\001014ee_F\

For files received by BT, this directory simply contains the file that was received. Files sent by BT are managed elsewhere so don't get near the messaging subsystem.

For multipart messages sent or received, this directory contains all of the objects embedded in the message and a file called "pres.smil", which is an XML file describing the structure of the message, ie. the order in which the objects are displayed and the duration of each frame.

That's about as far as I got. Not much but it's a start anyway.
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post May 16 2008, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(areankim @ May 16 2008, 05:42 PM)
can give the exact path ar? i cant find it la...

some says mail. i cant find this folder...

some says private... i cant find this either...

please... which ar?
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Read the instructions in quote above carefully about the path. It is stated clearly ..../private/..../mail

BTW, you cannot use the default file manager. Try using FExplorer, sysexplorer, etc.

And to access private folder, you need to hack the phone.

Don't ask how to get FExplorer, sysexplorer, etc or how to hack the phone. Please browse through V2 or even V1 (do a search if still lazy) of the N82 thread.

Have a good weekend.
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post May 21 2008, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(skylineremix @ May 21 2008, 08:05 AM)
one question. Is there MSN Messenger or Windows Live for Nokia Symbian Phones (N82 to be specific...) ?
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Google is your best friend.
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post May 22 2008, 11:00 AM

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For those who wants to IM, Fring is a good application as well.
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post May 22 2008, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(unipati @ May 22 2008, 11:54 AM)
Hi

Sim card battery consumption with N82
Wth celcom postpaid, battery standby last 5days
With digi prepaid, battery standby lasy 4days
Therefore Digi consume more power than Celcom
Using windows explorer I copied all contents from micro sd card to PC
After copying, the PC show 25mb but the for the card the total memory used is 45mb
What is occupying the balance 20mb of space, how to reveal the hidden content/prog in win explorer if there is any?
I have already set win xp to show all files (in control panel)

When I use nokia backup the size would be 30mb only

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You copy using Nokia Browse N82 connected as PC Suite ?

You should connect using "USB Transfer" or pull out SD card, read using card reader. A lot of system files in E:\sys, system, private, etc are not shown in windows explorer if you connect as PC Suite, even with all hidden/system files viewing enabled.
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post May 23 2008, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(unipati @ May 23 2008, 02:21 AM)
Hi any1 know which nokia phone is the nearest in size to N82?

Added on May 23, 2008, 5:42 am

First I connected using "data transfer", and copy/paste from phone to PC
I have also tried using card reader to copy the files over to PC

Both gave me the same results, the amount of space used in memory card is 45mb
but the amount of space used in PC after copying over is 25mb only
there is 20mb un accounted for
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I assume you use WinXP, select all, right click -> properties.
What are the:
1) Number of Files & Folders
2) Size: ?? MB ( ?? bytes)
3) Size on disk: ?? MB ( ?? bytes)

4) Your WinXP OS partition is FAT16/32/NTFS ?

Do the same step 3 on all the folders in memory card/USB.

The total files & folders count should be same. Otherwise, you did not copy everything.

I believe it is again the cluster size difference on file storage.

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post May 26 2008, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ May 24 2008, 02:19 PM)
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(1) This is a known problem. N82 camera is activated using magnetic sensor (same like door alarm) when you slide the camera cover open/close. Even though your pouch magnet location is far, it is still possible to be the source of the problem. Try not to use the pouch for 1-2 days and check the difference.

(2) Most likely due to one/some apps that you installed, which is running and taking up the processor/memory resources all the time. This app(s) might also be the source of battery draining fast.

e.g. I have one game called Diamond Twister. If I leave this app open in the background even without playing it, my full charge battery will go down to zero in 6-8 hrs. If I close it, my battery can last 24-48 hrs.

(3) No idea yet. Try install to overwrite it and uninstall to clear everything.

(4) Depends on what game. My NFS Pro Street drains full charge within 2-3 hrs if I'm playing it continuously.

(5) Plug in the micro-SD as USB/Card Reader into PC and delete it.
Do not simply kill any process, as it might have consequences, such as what you encounter.

(6) I don't have problem transfering 2GB of data using USB Cable. Battery does not go down even 1 bar. But it takes somewhere 40-50min.
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post May 26 2008, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Smy @ May 26 2008, 12:30 PM)
Looking to buy this phone but judging from responses, the battery life is pretty weak. 2 days at most for normal usage? 

I'm using k750 now and I can go a week without charging so I'm quite hesitant to put my money down just yet.
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This is normal for most Nokia N Series phone. It can last 0.5-3 days... averaging 1-1.5 days only. Of course, it depends on your usage.

e.g. My friend N95 can only last 0.5-1 day on every weekday tongue.gif with the standard recommendation off. (WiFi off, on GSM only, no apps/screensaver/default, etc.) original avaxx.

Not forgetting Nokia 16M colour LCD eats up more battery juice than SE 256k LCD, as claimed...

Some measure, I have dual charger in office and home. Mobile charger in car (for GPS). Otherwise, if battery is your main concern, I suggest don't get N Series phones sweat.gif

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post May 26 2008, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(NewKid @ May 26 2008, 04:00 PM)
IMHO, j ust call and sms and using GSM no 3G should last u a least 5 days. I dunno. Never tested. Where can got so super cun hp and never use camera, play games or gps. better buy 3310.
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Believe it or not, when I'm using the old 8210 previously (black and white LCD) it can last me 4-7 days, depending on how many calls I made, which is similiar to my current usage now. Just for calls and sms only. Somemore ringing tone is loud thumbup.gif

Bottom line is, the more complicated the device, the more battery juice it will drain. But perhaps, there might be some exceptions.
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