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gnne84
post Feb 26 2012, 12:49 PM

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HI all,
is it hard to apply for IR title?
wat is the requirement?

read this
http://www.ehow.com/how_7238656_become-ir-...r-malaysia.html


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post Feb 26 2012, 09:40 PM

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hi guys
anyone here got the answer the code of ethics question ?
going for an IEM interview this April
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engrfeez
post May 14 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(demongoh @ Feb 26 2012, 09:40 PM)
hi guys
anyone here got the answer the code of ethics question ?
going for an IEM interview this April
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are you done your interview?
Anybody here done the interview? can share some tips during interview?
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(engrfeez @ May 14 2012, 11:02 AM)
are you done your interview?
Anybody here done the interview? can share some tips during interview?
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BEM interview is quiet easy............from my PE engineer's message.
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post Sep 21 2012, 09:39 AM

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This is so old but I must correct this. FYI, Ir. has always been a prefix to a Professional Engineer. Engr. is a title for Graduate Engineer who had just graduated with a Bachelor and normally is en route to becoming a Professional Engineer which would earn him/her an Ir.

QUOTE(izcuje @ Apr 10 2008, 11:34 PM)
if I'm not mistaken, the suffix IR has since been changed to ENGR.
Like what they mentioned managerial position may not benefit much from this title, but in a consultancy, one that holds the title is much sought after for print approvals.(thus holding a great amount of responsibility for the overall outcome of the project as well; think - MRR2 project blunder?!)
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post Sep 22 2012, 01:09 PM

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Hey engineers,

I m a graduate engineer and i 'm offered a job in the commercial side of an oil & gas company. Eg. doing market assessment, commercial plan, stakeholders mgmt etc.

Since I presume I would not be doing a lot of technical work (as compared to the field engineers or process engineers), am I still eligible for PE/IR???

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post Oct 18 2012, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(wandj @ Sep 21 2012, 09:39 AM)
This is so old but I must correct this. FYI, Ir. has always been a prefix to a Professional Engineer. Engr. is a title for Graduate Engineer who had just graduated with a Bachelor and normally is en route to becoming a Professional Engineer which would earn him/her an Ir.
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Just noticed this thread. In Malaysia, "Ir." is the title allowed by BEM for the professional engineers registered with BEM in accordance to Engineer Registration Act only. "Engr." is the title created by IEM for their corporate and graduate members, however the grade of membership must be shown after the name, for example:

Corporate Member: Engr. James Bond MIEM
Graduate Member: Engr. Peter Parker Grad. IEM
Fellow Member: Engr. Bruce Wayne FIEM
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post Oct 18 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Apr 10 2008, 11:25 PM)
The suffix IR derives from the word Ingenieur (Dutch: Master of Science)

IR only has value in Malaysia. If you are out of the country, the value is near to zero.
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true, and it works both ways also.


Added on October 18, 2012, 10:59 am
QUOTE(nicvoo @ Apr 16 2008, 10:27 PM)
jus to add u get ir/pe/engr in msia u cant use in sg or any parts of the world req laws codes in diff countries differ each other
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true. and it works both ways too! tongue.gif


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:00 am
QUOTE(Archiou @ Apr 22 2008, 06:23 PM)
Seems like getting PE is not as good as one might think huh...
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if you plan to be 'sales engineer', then getting a PE is not worth it.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:02 am
QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ Jul 2 2008, 09:02 PM)
If my company doesn't have any recognized PE (IR), what would be my route to gain a PE status myself?
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quit the company and move to another one which has engineers with PE.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:03 am
QUOTE(dyso @ Oct 5 2010, 05:23 PM)
I got one simple question and wanted to confirm this.

Below is my situation :

BEM : Reg and approved on JULY 2009
IEM : Reg and approved on JULY 2010

So there 3 years of 50CPD per year av, is accounted from JULY 2010 or JULY 2008?
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This CPD business is for PEs only. A graduate engineer does not need to maintain the CPD laa..


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:06 am
QUOTE(feekle @ Nov 25 2010, 01:39 PM)
U are right dude...no future of being 'high pay' become civil engineer in malaysia..become kuli...the only path is to become contractor & sogok here & there & become rich..
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you are not quite right. if a civil engineer specialises in structural engineering and work in the oil & gas and he's a PE, the sky is the limit as far as pay is concerned.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:10 am
QUOTE(afosz @ Nov 25 2010, 01:50 PM)
That's the 'side income' or 'undertable envelope' but let's not get too detail about it, shall we ? Although we all know that is the reality.

Ir title is required, especially in civil. You get the respect, and the pay. To earn one is not as easy as it sounds like. Most people I know with Ir are from civil. Once I met an Ir but he's from electrical, I thought "What, electrical can get Ir too ?" and that is the first time I know Ir for engineers for all fields, not particularly on civil, but for civil, it is something like a must get title.
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in oil and gas consultants, all principal/lead engineers are required to have an Ir. all of them earn 5 figure salaries.

also, the chances of the engineer being promoted to senior engineer are higher if he gets his PE.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:11 am
QUOTE(azamreeves @ May 10 2011, 09:52 AM)
I think most of you can directly call BEM or go to their office at JKR Building Level 17,Jalan Sultan Salahuddin.

I already getting my own PE . If you're working in construction and consultancy industries then it will be important certificate and may add up to your salary.

The rest of industry , I don't think it is relevant,
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Nyet. You are wrong. Refer my posting above.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:20 am
QUOTE(Hanford @ Sep 7 2012, 10:07 AM)
BEM interview is quiet easy............from my PE engineer's message.
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Basically the interviewers ask questions related to the interviewee's working experience. They would have gone through the reports submitted by the interviewee prior to the interview.

The written exams are pretty straight forward; ethics question is not that mind boggling, one needs common sense to answer it.

I was interviewed by a couple of old PEs who were not in the oil and gas industry. The interview turned out to be like a briefing session from me about offshore platforms development and design to the interviewers. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 2 2012, 03:14 PM

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I am still considering to get PE/Ir from IEM/BEM, now I am confuse, is it worth it, how about working for government say Mosti or Energy Comission. Maybe still have chance there. smile.gif

Whatever it is, I will do my best to get this PE/Ir.

Thanks all for ur guys info. notworthy.gif
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post Nov 3 2012, 05:51 PM

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I was interviewed by a couple of old PEs who were not in the oil and gas industry. The interview turned out to be like a briefing session from me about offshore platforms development and design to the interviewers. biggrin.gif
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May I know how many years xprience do u hav before sit for PE?

I plan to apply next year. Let say if we r from oil & gas industry, are the interviewers not try to differentiate ours with other industry?
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post Nov 3 2012, 09:52 PM

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[quote=ka820720,Nov 3 2012, 05:51 PM]
I was interviewed by a couple of old PEs who were not in the oil and gas industry. The interview turned out to be like a briefing session from me about offshore platforms development and design to the interviewers. biggrin.gif
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May I know how many years xprience do u hav before sit for PE?

I plan to apply next year. Let say if we r from oil & gas industry, are the interviewers not try to differentiate ours with other industry?
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I already had 7 years working experience in o&g.

The PE interview is about the interviewee, not about the interviewer. Their interests are to gauge your experience based on your technical reports. I doubt whether they will engage you in a debate on the differences between o&g industry and their industry.

I gather that non o&g interviewers nowadays might have interviewed many prospective PEs from the o&g industry by now, so they might know something about o&g works, unlike during my time. My interviewers were surprised to know that API codes were widely used in o&g industry; obviously they thought that Msians were only knowledgeable in BS codes. This was in the mid 90's. biggrin.gif

Good luck in your PE interview next year! smile.gif

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post Nov 5 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Oct 18 2012, 10:57 AM)
true, and it works both ways also.


Added on October 18, 2012, 10:59 am

true. and it works both ways too!  tongue.gif


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:00 am

if you plan to be 'sales engineer', then getting a PE is not worth it.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:02 am

quit the company and move to another one which has engineers with PE.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:03 am

This CPD business is for PEs only. A graduate engineer does not need to maintain the CPD laa..


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:06 am

you are not quite right. if a civil engineer specialises in structural engineering and work in the oil & gas and he's a PE, the sky is the limit as far as pay is concerned.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:10 am

in oil and gas consultants, all principal/lead engineers are required to have an Ir. all of them earn 5 figure salaries.

also, the chances of the engineer being promoted to senior engineer are higher if he gets his PE.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:11 am

Nyet. You are wrong. Refer my posting above.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:20 am

Basically the interviewers ask questions related to the interviewee's working experience. They would have gone through the reports submitted by the interviewee prior to the interview.

The written exams are pretty straight forward; ethics question is not that mind boggling, one needs common sense to answer it.

I was interviewed by a couple of old PEs who were not in the oil and gas industry. The interview turned out to be like a briefing session from me about offshore platforms development and design to the interviewers.  biggrin.gif
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hi bro..how about technical report?

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post Nov 7 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(jack~daniel @ Nov 5 2012, 11:43 PM)
hi bro..how about technical report?
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what about the technical report? the contents, format? i thought there were instructions on what you were supposed to write in the technical report?

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post Nov 13 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Nov 7 2012, 07:49 PM)
what about the technical report? the contents, format? i thought there were instructions on what you were supposed to write in the technical report?
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Got it, one of IEM interview is my friend, i was told him there is no format,
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guys, lets say if i work in sg under consultant firm, do i still eligible to apply PE after 4 years of working experience in SG? i just need to get a PE in malaysia for recommendation only right?
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Nov 7 2012, 07:49 PM)
what about the technical report? the contents, format? i thought there were instructions on what you were supposed to write in the technical report?
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Bro, I submit the P1 form to BEM last week. They say dunno the board will sitting to appoint the PE.
Normally how many months they take to gives the tilte (Ir)
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post Nov 22 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(engrfeez @ Nov 22 2012, 06:04 PM)
Bro, I submit the P1 form to BEM last week. They say dunno the board will sitting to appoint the PE.
Normally how many months they take to gives the tilte (Ir)
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sorry, I've no idea how long BEM will take to give you the Ir. keep checking with them every month.
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post Nov 23 2012, 09:29 AM

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is the IEM Affiliate still relevant?
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post Nov 23 2012, 05:54 PM

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How about the IET(The Institution of Engineering and Technology)

Is that recognized in Europe?
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post Dec 4 2012, 06:58 PM

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I regret not registered as Graduate Engineer before year 2005... arghhhh...

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