play with it then sell it then buy again??? WT....

Jumping from AP to Ori set eh. If ori price doesn't suits you, you will be god damn. =x

Just to say, Ori might not be better quality-wise anyway... Just much better in terms of warranty IMHO...

Getting a non-lemon set is still more related to luck than anything else...

Any another thing, Made in China: Good... Made in Hungary: Bad!

Agreed. AP and Ori are the same except for the warranty wise, and luck, yea, just like buying any electronics stuff. Or maybe AP dealers take out some accessories so it's cheaper in a sense. Still price concern me the most. If price difference isn't much a margin between the both, I would go Ori for its warranty period.

yeah... quality wise there's no difference...

warranty wise of course there's difference...but that's just it..

Wow u sure of that? heard that the QC in china factories is quite bad wo?

Yeah, I can browse youtube over WIFI without any problems. Downloads and streaming are fast. However there are some problem with aspect ratio. The 5800's 3.2" LCD is a 16:9 aspect ratio and most videos in youtube are of the conventional 4:3 ratios, so playing them on 5800 will be stretched sideways. Not sure how to configure it yet. But then its acceptable lar.

One thing for sure, my HTC Touch Diamond has a feature to stream high or low quality videos. The 5800 does not have this option so most downloads are optimized for mobile viewing (meaning low quality).

Don't be so bad lar.. hahahaha! When he buy AP, lots of people say originals will be as cheap as what AP is selling (which may be wishful thinking). Then he sold AP hoping to buy an original, there goes originals COULD be more expensive. Hehehehe!

Honestly, nobody is sure of anything. What we say here is basically our perception as a user/consumer. It is a collective of hearsay and user experience. If a factory has strict operating procedures and operations management, I'm sure the quality is where it should be. The factory can be anywhere, be it China or the lowest poorest parts of Asia. It tells nothing about the quality of the product it is manufacturing.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Dec 23 2008, 12:45 PM

I really don't know myself...when I know is a ap set..my heart not felling well.....except Ori set...what to do..playing gadget is always losing end....

erksss?...another record to be place in the hall-of-fame-of-SUPPA-phone-collector...

erksss?....wah?...so happy to leave 2008...didn't have any happy moments?...so pana,how bout you start the counting down,surely made the others felt uncomfortable for the counting date...

yups!...procedure and management is very important...the factory can be anyway...

a personal touch and experience from SUPPA-phone-collector...

anyway aruja,you can join the hype of the countdown of the launching...

So when are we going to meet up for a cup of coffee then...compare gadget talk...hehehehe

Eh? I thought youtube already upgraded to 16:9 ratio? Vids shot in 4:3 would get black bars flanking them.

Imagine 16:9 vids on the Tube's screen...

Yes, youtube did upgraded their viewing object to support 16:9 ratio but most of the videos uploaded are still 4:3. So when you view 4:3 videos, a black will show to preserve the original aspect ratio while supporting newer uploaded videos that are 16:9.

On the Nokia 5800, it uses the mobile version of youtube. Videos are downloaded and played using Realplayer (if I am not mistaken). There are no aspect ratio preservation. Anyone know how to view youtube via its original website? I hope the Symbian community will release a Youtube App for 5800, just like the ones on HTC Touch Diamond/Pro and Omnia.

guys, I own the 5800 on last saturday, I bought it at 1600, it is sad that heard some people getting like 1500 for AP set. For this phone, the performance is so far so good for me (i was using N80 b4), but the only problem that facing right now is the software for S60V3,. Not all the softwares are supported like Garmin XT, but I have no problem installing the Handy's sw & mini opera

yes of course there's a way to view the original youtube website
1st get into the youtube and it will direct you to the mobile version of it
search through the same page
there will be a link which stated "view desktop version" for you to change to the original youtube
try and c

and you can change the aspect ratio on the real player as well
i dunno how but the function is there

This post has been edited by feimeng: Dec 23 2008, 03:23 PM

High Quality 5800 XPM Photos and Invitation

^ i am dead!!!

stripstripe dance...woohoo, will you do that dance, mr smashpop

eh how does that pre-order thing work anyway?

If i not mistaken, someone have already posted few pages ago..for the pre orfer form...

for heaven sake

http://www.nokia.com.my/A41275064

macam ini orang tolong orang sebelum Christmas....