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post Apr 9 2008, 05:02 PM

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hookers, IMO most of them are victim of circumstances.

now can we not discuss about hookers? smile.gif just let it be how ever anyone wishes to think of them.

back to topic please. *yes. stop the hooker bashing or people bashing*
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post Apr 9 2008, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 9 2008, 04:53 PM)
no one said you weren't either. smile.gif
since you brought this up. none of my friends i know for the past almost same amount of years as yours are not hooker visitors. insight in a guy's life, but not all guys are like that.

i've never visit any hooker myself and I'm a normal guy. so your claim is flawed unless you consider me as ABNORMAL. smile.gif

btw your friends, did they visit hooker as a single person? or single with a girldfriend (just as TS) or married even?
@TS - 4 years back is 4 years back. more important you look at what it is now and how he will treat you. past is past. visiting hooker isn't something sooooooooo terrible. everyone has their "crimes" some where.
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Well I'm not going to judge your frens but I can tell you plenty of ppl who hv done plenty of things but kept it secret, if you ask plenty of ppl hv you been to a hooker they'll tell you no unless they know you really well. So when you get a no its not really a guarantee.

But since you say nearly all your frens...well honestly I've doubt on that.

Yes I've know guys who went as:

single
attached with gf
married
3 wifes
married plus mistress but still visit hookers
divorce
double divorce

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well you're trying to paint a pretty picture to TS that most guys or nearly all the guys you know in your life never goes to hooker....and my picture to TS is 99% of the guys i know have been to hooker at least once in thier life.



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post Apr 9 2008, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 9 2008, 05:07 PM)
Well I'm not going to judge your frens but I can tell you plenty of ppl who hv done plenty of things but kept it secret, if you ask plenty of ppl hv you been to a hooker they'll tell you no unless they know you really well. So when you get a no its not really a guarantee.

But since you say nearly all your frens...well honestly I've doubt on that.


perhaps i should word it properly.

if you count all my friends since day 1 of life, of course i can't say NONE ever paid for sexual services. smile.gif

as to my currently closer group of friends, i'm pretty sure they don't go. they're not the hooker-lookin' types.

fair enough you say no guarantee but without proof, that also means one can't say ALL goes to hooker at least once either.

QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 9 2008, 05:07 PM)
well you're trying to paint a pretty picture to TS that most guys or nearly all the guys you know in your life never goes to hooker....and my picture to TS is 99% of the guys i know have been to hooker at least once in thier life.


yes. it really depends on your friends and their lifestyle.

it would be fair that you state that based on your experience, rather than as the earlier post to generalize ALL have visited before. smile.gif good if you did, and sorry if i missed it.

but that's not the point here la. so now we have you on one side of the scale, and some of us on the other. so like i said, it really depends on your friends and their lifestyle.

fair enough? i see no point discussing on this really. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 9 2008, 05:07 PM)
Well I'm not going to judge your frens but I can tell you plenty of ppl who hv done plenty of things but kept it secret, if you ask plenty of ppl hv you been to a hooker they'll tell you no unless they know you really well. So when you get a no its not really a guarantee.

But since you say nearly all your frens...well honestly I've doubt on that.

Yes I've know guys who went as:

single
attached with gf
married
3 wifes
married plus mistress but still visit hookers
divorce
double divorce

..............................

well you're trying to paint a pretty picture to TS that most guys or nearly all the guys you know in your life never goes to hooker....and my picture to TS is 99% of the guys i know have been to hooker at least once in thier life.
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 9 2008, 04:49 PM)
I am in line with TS thread, I'm trying to let her an insight view of a guys life, that so far non of my fren or guys I know for the past 30 yrs has never been to a hooker in thier life. I'm not saying they must be compulsive or addicted to hooker, I'm saying they've experience it at least once in thier life.
And Banks...you claim you've never tried hooker so you cannot judge hehehe, yea I'm dirty, you're very clean happy? but who knows...you might be pretending to be saint in here and judge ppl but outside you're the one go to chow kit, but at least I'm frank. Before I marry my wife I've told her YES I've been to hooker, I've tried ONS...she understand guys are naughty (truthful guys who dare to admit) but she says no more this kinda activities after married. So pinky fingers....
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 9 2008, 04:59 PM)
come to think of it, its snobbish ppl like you who look so lowly to hookers as dirty and ppl who go to hookers...its just that you're lucky to be born into a comfortable life. They're hookers out there who sacrifice thier body and life to make end meets to bring back to thier family or bro n sis who has no money for education and so on...

In my view and to be dead honest, in my heart I look up to ppl like this who would sacrifice thier body highly as compared to ppl like you who sit there and judge the misfortune of others.

And your so call principle....if you're born in outskirt thailand or china, your mom or sis might be whoring to bring that bowl of rice to your dinner table...
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its u n its ur life/family circle. 99% is for ur "level" of life circle. this 99% include ur dad as well? think bout it.
for my life circle its mayb only 1%. hookers r victim o not we do not know. its their choice. they can choose not to be. mayb they choose to be hooker is because they wan luxurious lifestyle. but if got ppl like u sure their biz is very good. n 1 more thing. if u think tat they become hooker is bcos they need the money for a bowl of rice, then u r really a s**k ppl tat take this oppurnity to f**k them n think tat u r paying them n "helping" them in their life. then i very pity to u n oso the hooker.
whether im pretending o not only i know. there is no point to pretend CLEAN n act high class. its not ur biz as well.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 9 2008, 05:18 PM)
perhaps i should word it properly.

if you count all my friends since day 1 of life, of course i can't say NONE ever paid for sexual services. smile.gif

as to my currently closer group of friends, i'm pretty sure they don't go. they're not the hooker-lookin' types.

fair enough you say no guarantee but without proof, that also means one can't say ALL goes to hooker at least once either.
yes. it really depends on your friends and their lifestyle.

it would be fair that you state that based on your experience, rather than as the earlier post to generalize ALL have visited before. smile.gif good if you did, and sorry if i missed it.

but that's not the point here la. so now we have you on one side of the scale, and some of us on the other. so like i said, it really depends on your friends and their lifestyle.

fair enough? i see no point discussing on this really. biggrin.gif
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yup agreed....well as for TS, I'm only trying to let her know its common thing that guys have experience hooker at least once in thier life, I'm not saying like guys would continue doing it for the rest of thier life.

Its not like guys who've been to hooker are useless or irresponsible to the family or would love her any less, I'm saying nearly all the guys I know goes to hooker....hey even plenty of your dad has visited hookers (ok just stirred the hornets nest) tongue.gif


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To TS

You never know what someone has done in the past, unless he/she tells you honestly. Look at it this way, if you had never looked at his dairy, you would not have known that he had visited hooker before, right? What is the difference of knowing and not knowing then? The truth is he has visited hooker before, and it will never change.

So I would say, let bygones be bygones. Look at present, and future.
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Apr 9 2008, 05:32 PM)
To TS

You never know what someone has done in the past, unless he/she tells you honestly. Look at it this way, if you had never looked at his dairy, you would not have known that he had visited hooker before, right? What is the difference of knowing and not knowing then? The truth is he has visited hooker before, and it will never change.

So I would say, let bygones be bygones. Look at present, and future.
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TO victor_hoh
thanks!
this is exactly what he told me.... think the best i can do now is to forget about it

TO ALL
looks like this has deviated from my intention of starting the topic...

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QUOTE(Bank @ Apr 9 2008, 04:36 PM)
its not saint o religion thing. its principle thing. got gf o not oso wont think of hooker. from wat i can see u r really dirty person (if u went for hooker) n u r such a low status. go to chow kit o old aunty hooker la. shit. FYI. i got a gf n we have healthy sex life as well. we both r from good family background n highly educated. hooker? not even an ant...


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u r the same as moorish.
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lol? FYI i have a fkn good family back ground i have a brother who's grading as a doctor this year i have another brother who is finishing his double degree 1 in law and 1 in commerce and im doing soft eng i dont think im poorly educated. some people are not into commited relation ships as others i hate to have a gf as i have bad expirence and iv seen too many guy's/girls suffer beacause of their relationships...i would rather spent rm5k on a hooker/ons then want to enter a relation ship on someone based on sexual. and if i ever fall in love again it wouldnt be for sex drives thank you very much.
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Apr 9 2008, 07:20 PM)
lol? FYI i have a fkn good family back ground i have a brother who's grading as a doctor this year i have another brother who is finishing his double degree 1 in law and 1 in commerce and im doing soft eng i dont think im poorly educated. some people are not into commited relation ships as others i hate to have a gf as i have bad expirence and iv seen too many guy's/girls suffer beacause of their relationships...i would rather spent rm5k on a hooker/ons then want to enter a relation ship on someone based on sexual. and if i ever fall in love again it wouldnt be for sex drives thank you very much.
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Haha... very funny. tell ur mom u went for hooker and see wat is her reaction. from such a good background but addicted to hooker. such a waste. bad experience o not is not the reason for going hooker.

TS: it takes time for u to digest this. though u can forgive him now i think this thing will just come out in ur mind automatically. i do not know ur bf so cant comment on this. just make sure he never never go for hooker again.
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QUOTE(Bank @ Apr 10 2008, 08:30 AM)
Haha... very funny. tell ur mom u went for hooker and see wat is her reaction. from such a good background but addicted to hooker. such a waste. bad experience o not is not the reason for going hooker.

TS: it takes time for u to digest this. though u can forgive him now i think this thing will just come out in ur mind automatically. i do  not know ur bf so cant comment on this. just make sure he never never go for hooker again.
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if i told my mom that i went to a hooker she would just laugh do you know why? beacasue she trusts my judgement's and she knows that i wouldnt go if i dont even go clubs for ONS then why would i go find hookers? my family is not like yours who will start fights/get angry over small matters hell if any 1 from this forum goes to my mum/dad and say i go to hookers 100% conform you that they would laugh it out... icon_rolleyes.gif
obviously your parents do not have faith and trush in you. and could you please state where did i said im addicted to hooker's? you said that you were from a good family background? does your parents teach you to judge people? who are you to judge me even if i go or dont go to hookers?

TS: do what you think is best. ask your parents for advice they always have somthing good hidden in the "lectures" wink.gif
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Apr 10 2008, 09:16 AM)
if i told my mom that i went to a hooker she would just laugh do you know why? beacasue she trusts my judgement's and she knows that i wouldnt go if i dont even go clubs for ONS then why would i go find hookers? my family is not like yours who will start fights/get angry over small matters hell if any 1 from this forum goes to my mum/dad and say i go to hookers 100% conform you that they would laugh it out... icon_rolleyes.gif
obviously your parents do not have faith and trush in you. and could you please state where did i said im addicted to hooker's?  you said that you were from a good family background? does your parents teach you to judge people? who are you to judge me even if i go or dont go to hookers?

TS: do what you think is best. ask your parents for advice they always have somthing good hidden in the "lectures" wink.gif
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Haha... more funny. a good family tat "TRUST" u and "ENCOURAGE" u for hooker? such an insane family.... if, its "if" ur dad go for hooker, wat ur mum will do? still lough at ur dad n trust ur dad judgement?

my family will never fight/get angry cos this thing will NEVER happen to my family. my parents obviously trust me in 100% tat i wont even touch them. so there is no point for them to worry. rclxms.gif

mayb i wrongly use "addicted". but the fact is u will go hooker from wat u said. judgement is not teach by parents. its own judgement. will u go to ask ur parents everytime u need to judge ppl/something? unless u got no brain. Ya. im no body to judge u but at least im not the ppl go for hooker just to release ur "stress" or "hormone imbalance". and TS need someone tat neutral to give comment but not the one who always go for hooker. whistling.gif of course u say this is not a big problem cos u support hooker as well. ppl with same hobby gather together.

TS: sorry. totally out of the topic. someone still cant wake up....

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my 2 cents. tongue.gif guys have more tendency to become horny biggrin.gif.i'm a guy i know lol.however i still managed to control myself and abstain from going finding hookers or ons for "ahem". take note that i'm single.its up to the individual to control himself.like ts said her bf used to go to hooker. get full check up to be sure of his health and your health and it's in the past. as long as he doesn't betray you when he is with you i think that is good enuf already.

i am of the opinion that prostitution/ons is a necessary evil in the world. ons and prostitution is about lust for sex that is all. affairs on the other hand are more complicated and damaging compared to prostitution/ons which is all about sex only.
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QUOTE(cskeong @ Apr 10 2008, 10:22 AM)
my 2 cents. tongue.gif guys have more tendency to become horny biggrin.gif.i'm a guy i know lol.however i still managed to control myself and abstain from going finding hookers or ons for "ahem". take note that i'm single.its up to the individual to control himself.like ts said her bf used to go to hooker. get full check up to be sure of his health and your health and it's in the past. as long as he doesn't betray you when he is with you i think that is good enuf already.

i am of the opinion that prostitution/ons is a necessary evil in the world. ons and prostitution is about lust for sex that is all. affairs on the other hand are more complicated and damaging compared to prostitution/ons which is all about sex only.
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totally agree... this is so called matured thought.... rclxms.gif
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If you have the tendency to ask this question already.. I guess it's pretty clear that you don't really trust your boyfriend that much anymore. :/

Let's ask this question to every girls. Who simply wants a boyfriend who had/has sex with prostitutes?

However if he stopped doing that/repented for what he has done maybe you ca give him a chance. Humans afterall do make mistakes what more a male who is sexually driven.

His excuse of being stressed that led him to prositution was somewhat ludicrous.
I understand that guys do resort to sexual pleasures when they are stressed but.. I'm pretty sure he knows what masturbation is right?

Anyway. everyone is entitled to their personal opinions what is more important that you sit down and think if this guy is worth to be with and be forgiven.

Good luck smile.gif

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QUOTE(Bank @ Apr 10 2008, 09:49 AM)
Haha... more funny. a good family tat "TRUST" u and "ENCOURAGE" u for hooker? such an insane family.... if, its "if" ur dad go for hooker, wat ur mum will do? still lough at ur dad n trust ur dad judgement?

my family will never fight/get angry cos this thing will NEVER happen to my family. my parents obviously trust me in 100% tat i wont even touch them. so there is no point for them to worry.  rclxms.gif

mayb i wrongly use "addicted". but the fact is u will go hooker from wat u said. judgement is not teach by parents. its own judgement. will u go to ask ur parents everytime u need to judge ppl/something? unless u got no brain. Ya. im no body to judge u but at least im not the ppl go for hooker just to release ur "stress" or "hormone imbalance". and TS need someone tat neutral to give comment but not the one who always go for hooker.  whistling.gif of course u say this is not a big problem cos u support hooker as well. ppl with same hobby gather together.

TS: sorry. totally out of the topic. someone still cant wake up....
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yep trust and encourage you to learn from your mistakes... and if my dad goes to a hooker that is totaly up to him i cannot hold my dad's 53 y/o hand like a young boy and they also dont want to hold their childreen's hand like a small kid and i srsly doubt my mom guide you for the rest of your life. and judgemental behaviours comes form a judgemental family. go read up some books wink.gif main reason people comment about a thing negatively is beacause they have little to no knowledge in it.
and nope you dont have to ask your parents b4 u judge but obviously i can see that you are young and dont notice that when your parents talk in a judgemental way their childreen would always catch that bad habbit. if you look back all your post almost all are judging me or other forumers doh.gif.

TS: sorry off topic. some one still cant open his eyes
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Going to hooker not mature....not going to hooker mature?....

Then why hookers and porn site are ADULTS area? small kiddo cannot go near these places? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Apr 10 2008, 12:20 PM)
yep trust and encourage you to learn from your mistakes... and if my dad goes to a hooker that is totaly up to him i cannot hold my dad's 53 y/o hand like a young boy and they also dont want to hold their childreen's hand like a small kid and i srsly doubt my mom  guide you for the rest of your life. and judgemental behaviours comes form a judgemental family. go read up some books  wink.gif main reason people comment about a thing negatively is beacause they have little to no knowledge in it.
and nope you dont have to ask your parents b4 u judge but obviously i can see that you are young and dont notice that when your parents talk in a judgemental way their childreen would always catch that bad habbit. if you look back all your post almost all are judging me or other forumers doh.gif.

TS: sorry off topic. some one still cant open his eyes
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QUOTE(Jas2davir @ Apr 10 2008, 12:20 PM)
yep trust and encourage you to learn from your mistakes... and if my dad goes to a hooker that is totaly up to him i cannot hold my dad's 53 y/o hand like a young boy and they also dont want to hold their childreen's hand like a small kid and i srsly doubt my mom  guide you for the rest of your life. and judgemental behaviours comes form a judgemental family. go read up some books  wink.gif main reason people comment about a thing negatively is beacause they have little to no knowledge in it.
and nope you dont have to ask your parents b4 u judge but obviously i can see that you are young and dont notice that when your parents talk in a judgemental way their childreen would always catch that bad habbit. if you look back all your post almost all are judging me or other forumers doh.gif.

TS: sorry off topic. some one still cant open his eyes
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haha... donno wat talking u. the point here is whether guy should/shouldn't go hooker; is tat right o wrong... but....?
r the books u read all conclusion o just reference? can we judge/conclude based on the books? read more books if have no knowledge bout it. bookworms. if we all catch judgement from our parents then i oso can imagine how ur parents judge ppl geh from the way u judge... biggrin.gif ya. im still very young but its good tat i know how to think better than my peer... tongue.gif

actually i just wan to ask u don encourage this in the 1st post to u but donno wat the heck it becomes like tat...

totally wrong channel and closed my eyes... cool.gif no point bombing here cos it doesn't help TS oso...

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