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 Sixth Former come in pls~, did you regret for taking form 6?

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post Apr 9 2008, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(arieliss @ Apr 7 2008, 10:13 PM)
Have a few questions here.. sweat.gif

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??  shocking.gif

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm?? tongue.gif

There's sumore questions but i cant remember,anyway,thx in reply! biggrin.gif
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1. SOmetimes regret. Somestimes not. But not satisfied with my form 6 though.. But get a lot of experiences and how to survive during form 6. Yeah . its true. No honeymoon during form 6, it IS TOUGH! But you will feel easier when u get into University
2. I lived in hostel. smile.gif I must say u must balance ur study time and ur play time. A study everyday for few hours is a MUST.
3. Depends on your interest. Pengajian Am and MUET is a must. Do u love Biology? Chemistry? Physics? Math?
4. DOnt too early thinks of failure. Theres a lot of private university who accept those who didnt do well in theirs result. or you can straight find a job. JPA ?


Added on April 9, 2008, 11:16 amAnd the possibility to enter public U if you got unsatisfying result is really low nowadays. Depends on your chosen course.

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Bro stpm is great...form 6 is one place u wanna be...no regrets...

Im a student in local uni....comparing between diploma,matriculation and stpm students...STPM students stands out though their results is just 3.2 or 3.3 for stpm, yet in uni...they do better than most matriks students who >3.7...don think too much stpm really trains u up...

good luck
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QUOTE(arieliss @ Apr 7 2008, 10:13 PM)
Have a few questions here.. sweat.gif

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??  shocking.gif

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm?? tongue.gif

There's sumore questions but i cant remember,anyway,thx in reply! biggrin.gif
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1.Not at all....But it really tough...
2.Mine study is flexible,i will study when i want...(but the most of time is loafing around,so the result.......)?It's also depends on your intelligence..
3.If you good in memorise, is encourage to take Biology,if not is encourage to take physics...This is what my teacher told me...
4.Of course icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 9 2008, 01:21 PM

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1. no..it's becomes the best memories now..it's depends on ppl lor

2. very boring if it's a MUST to study everyday...as me, v enjoyed f6 life last time until the teacher oso cant tahan.. hehe! tongue.gif
for PA: paper 1- u need to memories & understand all abt M'sia
paper 2- jst write "Karangan", draw "graph/cart" & analysis it.
for MM : u need to understand & memories the formula & know how to use it lor
for FZ & KM: need to memories the definition/formula & understand all the concept

3.compulsory course: Pengajian Am, Matematik T, Physic / Biologic (u can take either 1 or both) & Chemistry

4. yup..but it's means ur 2 yrs f6 life will be wasted ...
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by moment if you take stpm.
All for go.
Obtain highest cgpa, don't think of taking places in local uni.
Your results must be good.

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post Apr 9 2008, 02:13 PM

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はじめまして!!!

1.) I would never regret being one of the dwindling amount of students who have been striving to preserve some meagre hope within our education system. After all, STPM is the only educational device we can be proud of, not may, not should, but can. This is pathetic. This is like, if you take STPM now, maybe after one decade or two, when our STPM has been fully overshadowed, or maybe dismissed, by the matriculation system, we would be like endangered animals, which are different from another kind of `endangered` species that are `protected`.

Why are you scared of the toughness thing? A pre-U programme should be, in a sense, tough so as to filter off students of lower tiers from those of higher tiers. If you are passionate sufficient for your studies, you are in higher tiers. Still want to know if it is really tough? See below.

2.) I was in a college for almost 2 years before I withdrew and took on STPM as a private candidate. During the college, I took no science subjects (no Physics, no Chemistry, whatsoever). Then, I registered as a science(physics) candidate for STPM 2007. I started my studies during the beginning of 2007. I was on a self-study mode, doing essentially all the studies by myself while having only vague memories of the sciences that I took during SPM in 2003. I took math during college, so STPM math was a breeze. It would still be a breeze for fresh SPM graduates. My studies was not actually a hellish one. I spent all my time studying in front of a tv as I do not like studying like there is no other activities than studying. It was like multitasking, and it was fun. The best combination is to do math while watching tv, because you can really watch the tv content while doing math. For the sciences, I needed to divert more attention on books instead of on tv. Now, studying is not all that boring, is it? In fact, you do not really need to fix your studying hours. That would make studying fearsome. All you need to do is that, regularly tell yourself that `I am not fully prepared yet for STPM` when you are having too many m-m-m-m-monster kill in a day.

3.) I had Physics(A), Chemistry(A), PA(A), Math T(A), and Further Math T(B+, arghh stupid). In science, chemistry, math and pa are must. If you are in science stream, Math T is what you take. Automatically, you have met the requirement for taking Further Math should you want. So, what can you do?

First, physics + FM
Second, physics + Biology
Third, biology + FM (this is weird, but is allowed anyway)
Forth, physics only
Fifth, biology only

That is all, for the packages you can have. Take the third if you are weird enough. Oh yea, the number of subjects is capped at five. Even if you have been born genius, you can only get 5A for STPM, no 16, no 21, no 25, no 100, as in some stupid test.

4.) Dont think about it. If you think too much, you would really end up like that. STPM is not a test in which you would definitely fail if you are not that intelligent, or if your iq is below 120 whatsoever. The only reason of failure in STPM is laziness. STPM is not some iq test. Keep up the spirit, learn and study. Mind you, one of the prevalent reasons of candidates taking STPM is that, STPM is free. Should STPM charge the same fees as A-Level does, I would say a lot of them would switch to A-Level. Now the point is, students take STPM, mostly with a hope of minimizing their costs for tertiary education, for example, through obtaining a scholarship or getting into public universities. If you plan to go into private universities, then you might just go for their foundation studies which are only 1 year. If you did not do well, like having 4Bs something like that, you can most probably secure a place in some dont-know-what majors in public universities, or getting a place in private universities. But if you are nearing failure in STPM, then you most probably have to start from the foundation studies in most private universities. I have some friends who had done exactly that. It was awful.

The lesson is, whatever pre-U you take, be serious. This is the point that decides which way you would go in the future. Dont play play smile.gif
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QUOTE(arieliss @ Apr 7 2008, 10:13 PM)
Have a few questions here.. sweat.gif

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??  shocking.gif

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm?? tongue.gif

There's sumore questions but i cant remember,anyway,thx in reply! biggrin.gif
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1) I've no regrets taking form 6. Resolve !!! Yeah, I was resolved to taking form 6 and have no regrets no matter what will happen. That was what I told myself. Its tough, much tougher than SPM. But where's the challenge and fun if everything is so easy ?

2) You do not need to study everyday for a few hours. For lower 6, you can spare one day not studying at all to relax your mind but for the other 6 days you've to study as much as possible.

3) There will be 2 classes for those taking science stream, physics and biology. P.Am, Maths T, Chem will be compulsory.

4) You need 2 passes to secure your place in UTAR. If you can't do that, you can't even get into UTAR.
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QUOTE(exec @ Apr 9 2008, 02:13 PM)
はじめまして!!!

1.) I would never regret being one of the dwindling amount of students who have been striving to preserve some meagre hope within our education system. After all, STPM is the only educational device we can be proud of, not may, not should, but can. This is pathetic. This is like, if you take STPM now, maybe after one decade or two, when our STPM has been fully overshadowed, or maybe dismissed, by the matriculation system, we would be like endangered animals, which are different from another kind of `endangered` species that are `protected`.

Why are you scared of the toughness thing? A pre-U programme should be, in a sense, tough so as to filter off students of lower tiers from those of higher tiers. If you are passionate sufficient for your studies, you are in higher tiers. Still want to know if it is really tough? See below.

2.) I was in a college for almost 2 years before I withdrew and took on STPM as a private candidate. During the college, I took no science subjects (no Physics, no Chemistry, whatsoever). Then, I registered as a science(physics) candidate for STPM 2007. I started my studies during the beginning of 2007. I was on a self-study mode, doing essentially all the studies by myself while having only vague memories of the sciences that I took during SPM in 2003. I took math during college, so STPM math was a breeze. It would still be a breeze for fresh SPM graduates. My studies was not actually a hellish one. I spent all my time studying in front of a tv as I do not like studying like there is no other activities than studying. It was like multitasking, and it was fun. The best combination is to do math while watching tv, because you can really watch the tv content while doing math. For the sciences, I needed to divert more attention on books instead of on tv. Now, studying is not all that boring, is it? In fact, you do not really need to fix your studying hours. That would make studying fearsome. All you need to do is that, regularly tell yourself that `I am not fully prepared yet for STPM` when you are having too many m-m-m-m-monster kill in a day.

3.) I had Physics(A), Chemistry(A), PA(A), Math T(A), and Further Math T(B+, arghh stupid). In science, chemistry, math and pa are must. If you are in science stream, Math T is what you take. Automatically, you have met the requirement for taking Further Math should you want. So, what can you do?

First, physics + FM
Second, physics + Biology
Third, biology + FM (this is weird, but is allowed anyway)
Forth, physics only
Fifth, biology only

That is all, for the packages you can have. Take the third if you are weird enough. Oh yea, the number of subjects is capped at five. Even if you have been born genius, you can only get 5A for STPM, no 16, no 21, no 25, no 100, as in some stupid test.

4.) Dont think about it. If you think too much, you would really end up like that. STPM is not a test in which you would definitely fail if you are not that intelligent, or if your iq is below 120 whatsoever. The only reason of failure in STPM is laziness. STPM is not some iq test. Keep up the spirit, learn and study. Mind you, one of the prevalent reasons of candidates taking STPM is that, STPM is free. Should STPM charge the same fees as A-Level does, I would say a lot of them would switch to A-Level. Now the point is, students take STPM, mostly with a hope of minimizing their costs for tertiary education, for example, through obtaining a scholarship or getting into public universities. If you plan to go into private universities, then you might just go for their foundation studies which are only 1 year. If you did not do well, like having 4Bs something like that, you can most probably secure a place in some dont-know-what majors in public universities, or getting a place in private universities. But if you are nearing failure in STPM, then you most probably have to start from the foundation studies in most private universities. I have some friends who had done exactly that. It was awful.

The lesson is, whatever pre-U you take, be serious. This is the point that decides which way you would go in the future. Dont play play smile.gif
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I respect u for getting 4As 1B as a private candidate.
However, for those who think of taking STPM now. pls make sure you notice that most of the popular courses like engineering, medicine and phamarcy has been dominated by matriculation which is lower standard
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post Apr 9 2008, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(arieliss @ Apr 7 2008, 10:13 PM)
Have a few questions here.. sweat.gif

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??  shocking.gif

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm?? tongue.gif

There's sumore questions but i cant remember,anyway,thx in reply! biggrin.gif
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1. I met a few great friends in my time in F6, but in general, I hated it. Is it tougher than the A-Levels? Sure as hell it is. Is it impossible? Sure as hell not. The main problem I had with it was not the difficulty, but how uninteresting and intellectually stifling it was (though to be fair the A-Levels are also criticized for that, but to a lesser extent I think). But also consider the major pros, is it RM20,000 cheaper? Hell yes. Do you stand a chance to save up to RM100,000 if you get into a local public uni as opposed to paying your way through a private one? Yes indeed.

2. I think that depends on the individual. A few hours every day is a good habit which will be needed in university anyway. I however, (for my own reasons) didn't really take it seriously, kept a vague idea of the concepts being taught in class, missed nearly 3 months of school in my final year (there were, distractions tongue.gif) then crammed 3 weeks before the finals by steaming through past year questions. I got 3As and 1B, missing out on Math. Go figure.

And whatever you do, please don't try to cram Math, its the easiest A to get.

This post has been edited by BurgaFlippinMan: Apr 9 2008, 04:52 PM
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hmm, i thot the easiest is PA,even my skol (not a famous 1) can get arnd 40 A's out of 100 candidates
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In a way, maybe. But I think it has that slightly ambiguous feel where you don't really know whether you nailed it in the head or not. Math however...
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post Apr 10 2008, 02:26 AM

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Thanks guys! biggrin.gif

It seems that most of you din regret for taking form 6! But its toughness is still there... blush.gif
I'm now still cant make up my mind,am i going to take up this challenge or not...but i have to make decision before the due date of the fees payment for UTAR which is 18th of april..sigh...blaming myself for not being a good decision maker!! vmad.gif

I got a plan like this,i'm going to the Bio tuition tomorrow and have a look on the syllabus,if i thk i cant make it,then i will have to pack up my thgs and head to UTAR to study the foundation in arts which leads to the course i chose(graphic design and multimedia)! though i'm worrying bout my drawing.. sweat.gif

But if i thk i'm capable for the Bio subject,then i'll go for form6 and by the same time,apply for A-levels in Stamford which the intakes will be in July! just a backup for me in case i cant handle form6! tongue.gif Haha,such a dumb planning...

Well,i wanna study form6, not becoz i wanna get into local U...that's some reasons why i'm consider bout form6.

1.) I'm not ready yet for those uni social life.

2.) I wanna save money for my parents.(I've got a bro in PJ Utar now,the living expenses is expensive there,and yet i still got a little brother here who is weak in malay and my mum tends to spend more on him for his tuition fees, i dunwan to be another burden for my parents...)

3.) Just wanna stay here with my family for two more years.(kinda big baby huh!)

And just my opinion, I thk i can be much more mature with these two years of TRAINING laugh.gif even my aunt agree with it hah! But my mum seems to thk otherwise, she gv out the 'syarat' for me, said if i wanna study form6 ,then i hv to learn those HIGHER GRADE music!!! WOW! shocking.gif I dun thk i can concentrate on it if i'm studying form 6!!
She knew that i wont accept it and yet still purposely offer this syarat for me...but i know my mum is just thinking for my own good,scared that i will waste my time for form 6 and regret for it later..hehe,that's what the prob i'm facing now.. sweat.gif


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I got a plan like this,i'm going to the Bio tuition tomorrow and have a look on the syllabus,if i thk i cant make it,then i will have to pack up my thgs and head to UTAR to study the foundation in arts which leads to the course i chose(graphic design and multimedia)! though i'm worrying bout my drawing.. 
What if you think you can take on Bio but you can't take on the others? For your information, the other subjects are no easy cakes. You can go to mpm.edu.my to see the elaboration on each subject if you want.

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But if i thk i'm capable for the Bio subject,then i'll go for form6 and by the same time,apply for A-levels in Stamford which the intakes will be in July! just a backup for me in case i cant handle form6!  Haha,such a dumb planning...


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I wanna save money for my parents.


Aren't they contradiction? Have you checked out the fees of A-Level. The exam fees is like in thousands and you need to take two times.

[QUOTE]3.) Just wanna stay here with my family for two more years.(kinda big baby huh!)[/QUOTE[

You should have put it as the 1.). Home sweet home. smile.gif
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But also have to think on your ability...
If you think you able to handle F6,then it's okay to go for it...
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[quote=exec,Apr 10 2008, 01:40 PM]
What if you think you can take on Bio but you can't take on the others? For your information, the other subjects are no easy cakes. You can go to mpm.edu.my to see the elaboration on each subject if you want.
Aren't they contradiction? Have you checked out the fees of A-Level. The exam fees is like in thousands and you need to take two times.

[QUOTE]3.) Just wanna stay here with my family for two more years.(kinda big baby huh!)[/QUOTE[

You should have put it as the 1.). Home sweet home. smile.gif
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thx, will go n have a check on the website! smile.gif
Nope,the reason why i apply Stamford just becoz i can get full scolarship from it, but i duno does it include the exam fees.. blush.gif


Added on April 11, 2008, 2:58 am[quote=DragonMebius,Apr 10 2008, 03:44 PM]
But also have to think on your ability...
If you think you able to handle F6,then it's okay to go for it...
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Sigh...that's what i'm worrying about! cry.gif
Went for the tuition today,hmm...i'm not a decision maker and YUP! I'm sure not one! Normally chapter 1 is easier, so i'm not sure i can make it anot in the future since today the tuitor just ran thru a little bit on chapter 1!
I need to make up my mind before next week comes...cracking my head now!! icon_question.gif

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don't even think about failing. Failing is pretty tough to do, if you think about it. lol
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well, taking form6 is difficult but it's worth it. beside you save money (if you want to go to college), your thinking will be more mature... Sometimes ppl will say, 'nah.. form6 is wasting time, i go to A-level i will safe 1 year'... true, but form 6 is to let your learn how to grow-up.. coz you are in form 6, teachers will treat u as an adult, so you need to find a way to get a good result.

well, trust me, you can tell your mom, don't worry, by the time you move out study (either oversea or what), you will automatic become independent, learn how to take care yourself... it's human nature.. lol.. coz it's happen to me either.. i used to be a baby in my family but once i move out from my family, now i need to settle all my things by my own.. good old days had over... hmm.. hahaha...
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my f6 was kind of fun. i tot f5 was great until i do f6. well, it helps when im in a physics class wif majority boys who r juz playful as well. ok, it was not juz all play n fun la, but when it comes to study we r serious. u dun need to study 24/7, but u must b consistent n dun slack off too much. pretty much depends on wat kind of grades u want to get. if u want all A, then put more effiort n less play. btw, u might need a lot of divine intervention to get a uni of ur choice after ur stpm.
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I reluctantly took up Form 6. I had already made up my mind for Alevels in Inti when my dad told me to try take up Form6 for a couple of months first. I would say studying in form 6 is the best among the other years. The friends and teachers there are great but the whole studying thing is crazy.

You don't really have to study a few hours everyday. B'cos we are supposed to be active in co-cu, sometimes I don't even study for a week but you should work harder lah when exam is near. I have a friend who took both Bio and Physics, and he says that Physics will be more suitable if you understand concepts pretty well. Bio doesn't need much understanding, only memorise alot of facts. Since you must have gone through Bio & Physics in Form5, you should choose the subject you excel in.

You can actually read through some Form6 books so that you can roughly decide whether you can cope. At first everything seems pretty difficult, but when the whole syllabus is complete, you'll see that Form6 can be quite okay. Try Form6 for a while and opt for a later Alevels intake. Colleges usually have several intakes for Alevels. at least you won't regret next time smile.gif


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1. not really, i play around for the whole 4 course
2. nah.. i only study last month and do quite well
3. PA, Math, physic/biology, chemistry.. some ppl took 5 sub like chinese all 3 science or further math...
4. don know

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