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haziqnet
post Jan 31 2018, 08:21 PM

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To summarize everything when u start young you will pay less and get more at the end. Realistic or not the current dividend still can give profit to asb customers. The interest will always in balance between the dividend to make asb remain relevant.

Bro buggie have share his real experience how from 200k and now he already have almost million in his asb acc (include loan) Asbf is only one of the platform. There are many instruments out there u guys can use to gain your capital. Just keep in mind the higher the return the higher the risk. Thats all.

And for bro voncrance thanks for the highlight about the previous asb dividend. Past performance will not indicate the future return. Anything can happen in investment. Its up to you how u play the game and manage your risk from loss.

This post has been edited by haziqnet: Jan 31 2018, 09:37 PM
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post Jan 31 2018, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2018, 06:39 PM)
There should always be a realist. Keeps things real yeah?

The route I took is real....and more importantly, still relevant. Thanks voncrane for putting up the table of historical dividends. First thing everyone should do is ignore the total dividends column because the 'bonus' dividends are insignificant if you know how they calculate it. Learn how to look past the window dressing. So just look at the dividends column. You would see that in 2001 and 2017 is the same dividend... 7%. Yeah sure it went up and down thru the years but no drastic changes there. So... What I did is still applicable and relevant in this era... About the 400k limit? Like I said... Just adjust slightly. In fact the landscape is better now than during my time. For 10 years I was limited by the 200k limit. Nowadays you guys have 400k if you count ASB2. If I had ASB2 in my days, I'd be 2M up now instead of 1M only. So consider yourselves the younger generation luckier than me. I'm so envious. You guys get to be 400k up instantly. I had to wait 10 years... Sigh... Plus, the banks interest was higher then. We were looking at upwards of 6% then. Not like 4-5% these days

And yeah voncrane is right also to say that don't kiasu and should enjoy when young. By all means... Everyone should enjoy life. But just keep one eye on your old age as everyone will eventually get there and your power to earn income diminishes significantly. So find a balance. Like I said in earlier post... If you're a salary earner like me that wasn't born with a silver spoon, work smart and hard to move up the ladder... Soon asb payments are just a small chunk of your salary that you also tak rasa. The rest of your income you go and do what you wanna do la. But if you're a rich kid who is waiting for your dad's inheritance, disregard all these posts as your strategy should be different.. Lol

What I have laid out and shared here is only a small part of my entire life... Lol... The ASB part as this is the ASB loan forum. There are actually better ways to earn more money. Some more risky, others require a high capital. Nothing ventured nothing gained. But that's for a different discussion thread.

Lastly... Try not to be a pessimist. Not a good way to live life. Things may look bad now but equally, things can also get better in the future. Who knows next general election BN kalah (seriously doubt this lol) and ASB naik to 10%? Who knows la kan? All we can do is be ready when that situation happens. Voncrane is right in that different strokes for different folks. Is all about opening doors when opportunity knocks.
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Sure, I want the nation to succeed to RM1 = $£ even.. If can realize more divided within the next 5 years to constant double digits.. Be even happier cuz make more money and the money is actually worth it. Imagine having to buy say the latest iPhone for RM1K..Yeah, that's my dream for Malaysia. I'm no uncle yet, I tossed in the part about living because I know a few uncles and aunties who have a ton of money but no adequate health or desires to spend it on experiences. Cuz in the end, that's what truly matters as one ages. Not a Bugatti Chiron.. Well, a Lambo is okay.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(faizfizy39 @ Jan 31 2018, 06:42 PM)
Thanks for the heads up. A wise advice indeed.

As a typical Gen Y, I may simply blame government for the "bad timing" where I can no longer enjoy the good old dividend rate and also just simply buy a any house low and sell high after few years like what Gen X did.

However complaining will get me nowhere, so action is more realistic. Of course, I have to adjust my expectations and something is still better than nothing.

The perk of being a Gen Y is that there are easier accessibility to everything. So we have to be smart and look for more options to diverse our investments.

With all that said, the attitude and awareness to start saving from young will always stay true.
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You are welcome. Not many of us can do delayed gratification. It can be hard to see pals on social media with the latest cars or trips abroad... We want the same to. Just do it without breaking the bank and have a financial safety net. No need to blame the government, to me.. It's all one and the same regardless of who among them takes the helm.. I just hope that whoever does, remembers that people make a country and they assist...

QUOTE(haziqnet @ Jan 31 2018, 08:21 PM)
To summarize everything when u start young you will pay less and get more at the end. Realistic or not the current dividend still can give profit to asb customers. The interest will always in balance between the dividend to make asb remain relevant.

Bro buggie have share his real experience how from 200k and now he  already have almost million in his asb acc (include loan) Asbf is only one of the platform. There are many instruments out there u guys can use to gain your capital. Just keep in mind the higher the return the higher the risk. Thats all.

And for bro voncrance thanks for the highlight about the previous asb dividend. Past performance will not indicate the future return. Anything can happen in investment. Its up to you how u play the game and manage your risk from loss.
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Yup.. Up up up.
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post Jan 31 2018, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 31 2018, 10:13 PM)
Sure, I want the nation to succeed to RM1 = $£ even.. If can realize more divided within the next 5 years to constant double digits.. Be even happier cuz make more money and the money is actually worth it. Imagine having to buy say the latest iPhone for RM1K..Yeah, that's my dream for Malaysia. I'm no uncle yet, I tossed in the part about living because I know a few uncles and aunties who have a ton of money but no adequate health or desires to spend it on experiences. Cuz in the end, that's what truly matters as one ages. Not a Bugatti Chiron.. Well, a Lambo is okay..  laugh.gif
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Yup, you are absolutely right. I've seen super rich old people with no life. My boss is one of them. Unmarried or rather married to the job. All the money in the world now but no one to go travel with and no one to shower gifts to.... Didn't get to enjoy life as he clocks out at 10 and even comes in on the weekends. In the end take his money to the grave with him...

On the other side of the spectrum... No need to go far... My office plenty of support staff earning 2500 a month for the last 10 years and yet still have the iPhone X... Or a phone more canggih than mine! Also, I volunteer at Kechara and one of the volunteer work I do is to sit down with these people who are in need and counsel them. If you listen to their stories, you can't help but feel for them. Some were successful businessmen, or high ranking individuals but fell by the wayside due to mismanagement of their lives and finances. Now at 60 years old, lining for food and clothes handouts. The future looks bleak for them and shatter to think what it'll be like when they need medical care

Balance is key. Work life balance and an eye on the future.

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post Feb 5 2018, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 31 2018, 10:13 PM)
I'm no uncle yet, I tossed in the part about living because I know a few uncles and aunties who have a ton of money but no adequate health or desires to spend it on experiences. Cuz in the end, that's what truly matters as one ages.

Not many of us can do delayed gratification. It can be hard to see pals on social media with the latest cars or trips abroad... We want the same to. Just do it without breaking the bank and have a financial safety net.
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I just came back from a short backpacking trip (gen-x will turn in their grave when they hear gen-y travels) and I was talking about this with fellow travellers. I don't see the point of money if its all about saving saving saving. What is a million ringgit if its 20 years later? I'd rather have RM50k today than that. For 20 years you live so poorly, for that one point in the far future where you'll have the nice fortune. IF you get there.

But then again, hey, whatever floats your boat, right?

QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2018, 10:47 PM)
All the money in the world now but no one to go travel with and no one to shower gifts to.... Didn't get to enjoy life as he clocks out at 10 and even comes in on the weekends. In the end take his money to the grave with him...
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That's me exactly you're describing, lol. Always travel alone. Have some tiny pocket money, but no one to give gifts to. Sigh..

But don't judge everyone as the same. Maybe he likes his job. Not me tho.

QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 31 2018, 10:47 PM)
On the other side of the spectrum... No need to go far... My office plenty of support staff earning 2500 a month for the last 10 years and yet still have the iPhone X...

Now at 60 years old, lining for food and clothes handouts. The future looks bleak for them and shatter to think what it'll be like when they need medical care
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Yeah, trying to avoid that. So, yes. True, buggie. Balance is key.

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post Feb 5 2018, 09:59 AM

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Cimb bank current promo 4.8% change to 5.05%
Ambank current promo 4.75% change to 5%

More info let me know. Thank you.
haziqnet
post Feb 5 2018, 10:04 AM

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Regarding the increase of BR for those who the installment doesnt change the loan tenure will increase.

However dun take this as serious matter because the loan tenure will change back if the OPR is goes down again.


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post Feb 5 2018, 10:59 AM

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Hi, I would like ask if anyone here with the same figures as mine: I applied for 200k loan but the outstanding balance is 500k+++
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post Feb 5 2018, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Feb 5 2018, 10:04 AM)
However dun take this as serious matter because the loan tenure will change back if the OPR is goes down again.
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That is VERY VERY unlikely in the near future. Realistically. Borrowers need to bite the bullet, banks will profit higher now.

QUOTE(rain0520 @ Feb 5 2018, 10:59 AM)
Hi, I would like ask if anyone here with the same figures as mine: I applied for 200k loan but the outstanding balance is 500k+++
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Can you get a screenshot of this insanity?
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post Feb 5 2018, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(rain0520 @ Feb 5 2018, 10:59 AM)
Hi, I would like ask if anyone here with the same figures as mine: I applied for 200k loan but the outstanding balance is 500k+++
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islamic financing ada harga siling.. max interest rate

QUOTE(haziqnet @ Feb 5 2018, 09:59 AM)
Cimb bank current promo 4.8% change to 5.05%
Ambank current promo 4.75% change to 5%

More info let me know. Thank you.
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ambank dah confirm naik? semalam banker bagi tahu belum ada info frm HQ

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post Feb 5 2018, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Feb 5 2018, 04:39 PM)
islamic financing ada harga siling.. max interest rate
ambank dah confirm naik? semalam banker bagi tahu belum ada info frm HQ
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Already confirmed. Ambank current rate is 5% for 100k and above.
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post Feb 5 2018, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Feb 5 2018, 04:39 PM)
islamic financing ada harga siling.. max interest rate
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Wats that? How come mine another loan has same amount on both outstanding balance n cost of finance? Sorry ya I'm newbie to this. Tq in advance for explanation :-)
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post Feb 5 2018, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ronald K. @ Feb 5 2018, 06:25 PM)
Already confirmed. Ambank current rate is 5% for 100k and above.
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ohh... kena hold dulu lah ambank.. thanks cry.gif

QUOTE(rain0520 @ Feb 5 2018, 07:36 PM)
Wats that? How come mine another loan has same amount on both outstanding balance n cost of finance? Sorry ya I'm newbie to this. Tq in advance for explanation :-)
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islamic financing ada ceiling rate.. contohnya ±10.75%...
which means kalau bank interest rate naik up to 20%, max 10.75% jer bank boleh charges customer..

tapi yang kita bayar sekarang ikut effective profit rate contohnya 4.8%..
rate cimb : BR+0.9% = 4.8%, BR = 3.9%
so bila BNM naikkan OPR 0.25, so CIMB punya rate berubah 5.05%
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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Feb 5 2018, 04:39 PM)
islamic financing ada harga siling.. max interest rate
ambank dah confirm naik? semalam banker bagi tahu belum ada info frm HQ
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yeah siling at +/-10%.hahahaha
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post Feb 6 2018, 02:32 AM

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Wow.. lots to learn from sifu here.. BTW, mine is under Maybank loan 5.25%. should I terminate n reapply as per suggested by many sifu?
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post Feb 6 2018, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(rain0520 @ Feb 6 2018, 02:32 AM)
Wow.. lots to learn from sifu here.. BTW, mine is under Maybank loan 5.25%. should I terminate n reapply as per suggested by many sifu?
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Depends. You can terminate and reapply for better rate. But first i need to know how long already u commit the loan, does it with takaful or not and have lock in period or not.


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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Feb 5 2018, 02:09 PM)
That is VERY VERY unlikely in the near future. Realistically. Borrowers need to bite the bullet, banks will profit higher now.
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Depends. If the economy is down im pretty sure bank negara will reduce the OPR. For now our economy is stabilize. Yes now banks will profit higher now. But im not worry because when economy is good the dividend also might get higher hopefully.
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post Feb 6 2018, 12:36 PM

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Is it ok if friend of mine who is not bumi, pump money to my asb acc then the dividen share 20:80?
She got the 80%..
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QUOTE(Bold III @ Feb 6 2018, 12:36 PM)
Is it ok if friend of mine who is not bumi, pump money to my asb acc then the dividen share 20:80?
She got the 80%..
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pump into yours?....i would take it....just don't have any proof that she passed you the money biggrin.gif
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post Feb 6 2018, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Bold III @ Feb 6 2018, 12:36 PM)
Is it ok if friend of mine who is not bumi, pump money to my asb acc then the dividen share 20:80?
She got the 80%..
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All depends on your ethics level. You aren't the first and won't be the last to do this. Just don't give/get problem in future.. IMO, it's considered OPM too tongue.gif
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post Feb 6 2018, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Bold III @ Feb 6 2018, 12:36 PM)
Is it ok if friend of mine who is not bumi, pump money to my asb acc then the dividen share 20:80?
She got the 80%..
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Sure, she's assuming 100% of the risk. You can disappear or worst still pass away and she will have a difficult time getting her money back.

If nothing goes wrong, it's free money at the end of the day but you will lose out on opportunity cost as your quota taken up by her

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