er sorry.. but Kaka is the best in the world....

there plenty of players can compete with CR.... Joaquin, Queresma, Ribery, David Villa, Walcott....

Why is CR better known then the rest... because he is playing for Manchester... and one thing most important.... manchester is built around CR and everyone else in Manchester is suiting into his style of play.

Player like joaquin and queresma has this problem .. they need teams to be built around them ... unfortunately... valencia and barcelona dun built around players...

Beckham is a class of its own... I dun idolize him.. but he is effective...
Question ppl should pose.. do you need someone dribbling around for 5 minutes and make one assist or someone who kicks a single kick and give and assist. To me the end result is the same... 2nd point is you can stop a dribbling player but you can't stop a flying ball faster than anyone can run and flying at height nobody can reach...

Beckham won the Champions league... CR haven't... maybe this season.. but again it is not easy...With the quality of player manchester utd now compared with when they won the champions league... they have more capable players now... back then was all home grown players. now it is purchased...

This post has been edited by ponomariov: Apr 6 2008, 01:37 PM

agree...they bought their player with an amount of money but they still manage to build such team..so no comments...money well spent i guess...and i think CR is already at his peak..his form wont last any longer anymore...maybe will last for this 1 or 2 years..maybe shorter than that perhaps..c wat happen to de others??kaka?l.ronaldo?henry?ronaldinho?CR is just a normal human being..he will hav some high and low at time...u guys are saying him the most complete player currently is just because of his peaking form but when u look at his poor form at man utd last 2/3 years ago when his father passes away..who is he?ronaldo that we know?

u mean SAF is doin a good job grooming him???

i agree with ponomariov. Beckham had the most assists for real madrid in a season (forgot which season) than anyone else. U dont have to be able to run at 325332 m/s and beat every player on the field twice before passing the ball to ur teammate for a goal. That's why i rate Beckham highly, even though he's not skillful or a good tackler or whatever. He creates chances and very effective at doing that.

Anyway, back to topic, i think at the moment, nani, babel, robinho, messi, walcott, and me

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Added on April 6, 2008, 2:14 pmi agree with ponomariov. Beckham had the most assists for real madrid in a season (forgot which season) than anyone else. U dont have to be able to run at 325332 m/s and beat every player on the field twice before passing the ball to ur teammate for a goal. That's why i rate Beckham highly, even though he's not skillful or a good tackler or whatever. He creates chances and very effective at doing that.

Anyway, back to topic, i think at the moment, nani, babel, robinho, messi, walcott, and me

This post has been edited by munky: Apr 6 2008, 02:14 PM

i think messi can do it. he got very talented skill to dribble. but he still younger than c.ronaldo

Something i totally disagree.

If you were to take Ronaldo off the lineup, the team will still play the SAME way if he is on the pitch. There are so many players that can do their own magic. Its either you are a poor analyst of gameplay, or you are commenting without watching how the team plays.

And i don't see how you can build a team around a person who plays on the wings. Everyone gonna build the ball towards the wing? Then what play for a corner?


and to people who says Beckham was overrated even at his peak is just plain wrong. The kind of passes he makes and goals he assist are unmatched by anyone during his peak era. Certainly his stlye is not flashy .. but is certainly effective.

This post has been edited by befitozi: Apr 6 2008, 03:23 PM

i disagree with u wo...as u said with or without CR man utd still playing the same way.yes i agree with u here but i would like to say is the whole man utd players are playing this way..it suits everybody they can attack and defend efficiently.As for CR,he and rooney are team up when they on the pitch plus hargreaves and nani maybe support them.What i see in man utd is wayne rooney,the way man utd plays doesnt maximize the potential of rooney...look at how he played in Euro 04 and when he was playing at everton?scoring and pushing the defender back to the penalty box.now?he is more on crossing passing and assisting rather than scoring...

its a way to maximise the player ability to win the game.
It is not build a team around a player.

Just like Arsenal years ago, without Henry they are dead
If Chelsea without Drogba, they would need to change their gameplay.
Without Drogba, u can't play high ball efficiently.
Shev and Kalou heading? u sure?

You take out Ronaldo, put nani or PJS in, the winger game still on.


And some saying that Ronaldo peak form gone soon, I wonder how you predict that?
More like sour grape to me.

for now...NOBODY......

Nani.......... i think nani skill is improving game by game....... Messi, his dribbling skill is marvelous....

Thats because they play as a TEAM now. players are not restricted to specific roles such as target-man, playmaker etc. Indirectly, what u are saying concurs with my opinion that ManUtd are NOT built around ronaldo

Lionel Messi la....
he wasnt performing that much this season because of injuries plagued...
but when he is fully fit, i bet you guys would love to watch him playing..

Ryan Babel also a contender..
despite playing a little bit out of position by rafa, he did brilliantly by beating defenders in HIS FIRST SEASON... now, beared it in mind, ronaldo didnt really has a chance to past through defenders in his first season...

just scored his 37th goals of the season

There are so many unfounded statements in this thread it's untrue. Ronaldo right now is the best player in the world. You can name whatever winger you want nobody has come close in producing the same end product that he has this season. Ppl argue about his lack of assists but when u score 37 goals who the heck cares. At the end of the day it's the goals that make the difference.

And you have to give credit to the boy. When he first joined Man Utd he was just flashy. But he has continuously worked on his end product to get to whr he is now. His determination and mental strength is actually his best attribute imo. And I'm no Man Utd fan.

haha like i say la.. if he not joining MU can he score 37 goals?

and i think its not fair to compare babel with CR.. babel is not natural winger.. he's striker before

At the moment, nobody. Ronaldo is virtually unplayable when he gets on his stride and theres no one winger who is even close to him in terms of form right now. Call me biased but he's a shoo in for World Player of the Year.

Credits have to go to his hardworkingness and determination. Ppl called him a one trick pony when he first signed... look at them eating their words now. And his courage, to stay in England and set the league alight week in week out after the World Cup incident with Rooney. A lesser man would have chickened out and moved on to other clubs.

Of course because of the way MU set out to play and the players he has ard him he's able to score more goals. But he would still have scored a fair share if he played for another team imo. Besides almost every great player must have good players ard him to be able to show his potential. It's the same for Torres for instance. Would he have scored as many goals as he has now if he played for a lesser team? Or if he didn't have Gerrard playing behind him?

hmm most people here already know the answer to the question posed in this thread..things would be interesting if robinho,robben and messi all have the same resistance to injury (this is a quality only certain athletes possess in my opinion, and many manutd fans fail to mention.i'd say true fans of football will most certainly take note of this priceless attribute) and played the same number of games..future challengers to ronaldo's crown that haven't been mentioned include diego capel and ben arfa (how could u guys leave these two out??!!fantastic prospects!)

you guys can name out 123456789 players
from A to Z

to be fair there are alot of Good Wingers out there
like you guys name it i dont have to say
BUT,
the ones that is CONSISTENTLY PERFORMING matches by matches is very few
the ones that is shining very oftenly is very few
yea some may say KAKA
yea some may say MESSI
some may say others
and the list goes on

but as for now, the one player that is really at his best so far...PROVEN BEST!
i hate to say it,cause im an Arsenal fan
its Christiano Ronaldo
i would be surprised if the best player award goes to non-other then this lad

perhaps next season would be others? we dont know,maybe kaka?maybe messi?..only the players can prove themselves in matches,meanwhile CR7 has proven he is the best CURRENTLY
so bow down to CR7
cause he is currently unstopable,results proven....we heard of it,we've seen it..now we have to beleive n accept it
who can deny that?correct me im wrong
IMO,no other wingers is performing as consistent as CR7,thus i would say no winger can compete with him NOW...even if there is,none is showing it,if there is... please enlighten me

this lad has been the Golden Boy for MU