Somehow you gave me an inspiration of something positive, I couldn't really describe it. And you were right with the comparison of Asian and Western musician but at the same time not all of the Asians nor the Westerns were determined like this, and I think the Western and the Asian shan't be the right object, shall it be?

yeah.. true... not everyone coming from western way of learning are great nor coming from asian are bad... just in general... "when there's good guy, there'll always be a bad guy for everyone to blame..."

try talking to your teacher... tell her that you prefer to play more songs than just the 3 boring pieces... etc... etc... imo, teacher suppose to guide and correct your mistake and etc etc... on the piece you play... so you and your family and enjoy the priceless music coming from your fingers

This post has been edited by jhp: Jun 24 2011, 09:41 AM

should i buy U1J (new) or recon piano? How the piano perfom who have own U1J?
Need sincere feedback urgently!!!

No more next time really.
I'm not taking ABRSM anymore if I shouldn't.

My teacher has been teaching me the 3 pieces since December 2010, until now. lol

its an OK piano for the price. something to use few years until you upgrade

personally, if you 'pro-yamie' luv how they sound and feel U1J is a good choice as compare to LU90 or 'recond junks'.... on the other hand, if you hv not done your true piano shopping and have not finalised, there are many choices.... u1j is 121cm height piano and indonesia-make selling for about 16-17K.... i feel too much for a piano coming from indonesia, anyways that is not the question here... for that money$$$ you invest, you have many many pianos...

end of the day is your choice... but do give urself an opportunity to play as many pianos as possible before you decide... dont worry wif yamie promotion now, they will have the promo very often... i see they getting great impact from recond/junk dealers on their own brand, over the last decades... hv fun...

This post has been edited by jhp: Jun 24 2011, 12:01 PM

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Added on June 24, 2011, 1:12 pmThanks for your advice. My concern here is if i pay for RM17k for U1J but is equal to RM8K U1 or U2 recon piano...i will cry at that time...

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Added on June 24, 2011, 1:14 pmThis post has been edited by beautyfullife: Jun 24 2011, 01:14 PM

For my personal opinion for the price you pay for U1J that is made is Indonesia is overpriced. For that price you can get something more quality like Wagner, Hailun, Challen, C.Steinbert and Barratt Robinson. If you are interested on my opinions and pricelists you can PM me your contact details. Hope i can assist you in this matter

can u get recond U1 under 10K ? it's a fine instrument

no you won't cry... present yamaha and older yamaha is NOT a same piano.

yamaha began to making pianos in 1900 learning from great builders from america and europe. when the first piano was made (copied from an old expired patent) they were not wonders. they were having hard time entering the western market particularly america, biggest buyers in the world, and (like the koreans and the chinese when they started making pianos) facing problem such as their wood was not dried enough and created problems. they learned and (japanese being japanese) the quality improved. best of everything the prices of their piano was very much cheaper than those coming from america and europe, opened a new door for the mid-level (bigger pie than niche buyers) income family... (those days before there was any asian manufacturers, only rich ppl can afford to buy a piano at home... it's like a status)...cut grandmother story short...., over the years many improvement been made; better machinery, better kiln drying facilities, better scaling and yes today they are among the most automated anywhere in the world.... due to the high wages and currency fluctuation, their pianos became more and more expensive in their country thus the setup of new factories outside the country will be an ideal solution for the them to stay competitive (yamie piano coming from japan, subject to the type of series, is still a better quality make than those outside of japan).... in addition due to their high volume of production, relative scarcity and higher cost of fine woods, japanese pianos usually contain less expensive wood as other great piano builder from america or europe.. on the other hand, yes... they have top series (but very much less in production and very pricey too) which uses premium materials (maple, beech, hornbeam - wood, roslau piano wires, wet sand cast iron plate, high graded stika spruce, german hammers & bla bla bla lists) and better scaling plus better action designed. for reference they are; CF, S, CFIII, CX .... anyways this is not important, since is not the topic....

30+ years is NOT the same piano as the current designed models, other than having the same name on the fallboard.

conclusion; if you've done your piano shopping and hv played many pianos and still like the touch and tone of the yamie... well.. go for the U1J and stay away from old scale junks from japan.... they have nothing but new paint works, new sets of white keys and best sparkling shinny metal hinges....

recond cars, recond photocopy machines & etc from japan are diff... majority are still the current models if not just few years old and the investment on these items are worth because you paying something less for something that is current....

This post has been edited by jhp: Jun 24 2011, 08:18 PM

go to yamaha and try. play until you satisfy. then go to try the recond.

if you can't tell the difference, there's no difference buying recond or new. if you can tell the difference, then the choice is clear.

Hey guys, I've been saving up for a Midi Keyboard.

But first I want to ask, can I play this instrument 100% self-taught?

C major scale for 3 octaves. I can play one hand but when combine its bad! Actually is it normal to pianist for can't synchronize both hand naturally? I know the tricks for combining the both hand but i think thats cheating.

lol even if cannot synchronize hands naturally die die practice until can synchronize. Some people are lucky enough to be born with good motor skills, no problem controlling their hands, the rest just have to keep practicing until they get it.

Practice each hand until you are really sure about the fingering and the keys, then start both hands slowly

Practise everything in dotted rhythm instead of even quaver or semiquaver rhythm. 1 dotted quaver followed by 1 semiquaver (repeat), 1 semiquaver followed by 1 dotted quaver (repeat).

Im looking to buy one keyboard..but dunno which one..anyone please help me..
cheap one is good for a beginner.

Hi guys,

I am a middle age man at 42.

Being able to play piano was my childhood dream, unfortunately, i did not have that kind of luxury due to the financial constraint at that period of time.

I am now 42, everything is stable, and i proceed to fulfil my long due childhood dream.

Lately, i started to take "pop piano" lession at Yamaha music.

I believe, if i would like to progress fast, I must have a piano at home for practice.

There are many brands and type of piano in the market, i am not musician, it is kind of difficult to decide which one to get.

I really need advice from the music expert in this forum.

My question:

Q1 : Digital piano or acoustic piano? My teacher prefers digital piano as it is more fun?
Q2 : Which brand to get? Yamaha? Kawai? Casio?
Q3 : Estimated price? i am not familiar so must know some thing before walking into the shop (nanti kena ketuk).
Q4 : Where to buy?

Your advice is very much appreciated.

Hi guys,

I am a middle age man at 42.

Being able to play piano was my childhood dream, unfortunately, i did not have that kind of luxury due to the financial constraint at that period of time.

I am now 42, everything is stable, and i proceed to fulfil my long due childhood dream.

Lately, i started to take "pop piano" lession at Yamaha music.

I believe, if i would like to progress fast, I must have a piano at home for practice.

There are many brands and type of piano in the market, i am not musician, it is kind of difficult to decide which one to get.

I really need advice from the music expert in this forum.

My question:

Q1 : Digital piano or acoustic piano? My teacher prefers digital piano as it is more fun?
Q2 : Which brand to get? Yamaha? Kawai? Casio?
Q3 : Estimated price? i am not familiar so must know some thing before walking into the shop (nanti kena ketuk).
Q4 : Where to buy?

Your advice is very much appreciated.

Moderators Note: DO NOT DOUBLE POST !!!!!!!!!!!

Y learn at Yamaha? I kinda dislike them...
About buying piano... i wonder why your teacher prefer digital piano... coz you learning pop piano?
Actually it all depends on what kinda sound you like, and how much is your budget. Bout where to buy.. have to ask those in KL to answer you

This post has been edited by Pseudonym: Jul 4 2011, 04:00 PM

Dear TKyong,

First of all, are you just learning pop music or you plan to persue to higher grades? If you want to learn, it is advisable to get a beginner piano as it will also generate your interest on it. If you want to play for fun, a keyboard is fine with you but if for long term investment and play you should get a piano. You should first determine your budget and the brand you prefer. If you have any questions, you can pm me to get more details and explanation. Take care

Buy one with the keys same weight like a real piano
but not those for kids.


At last I got over with my ABRSM exam. The examiner was very friendly I suppose...
Not quite sure whether she is 'friendly' in giving marks lol.