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post May 8 2011, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(jhp @ May 7 2011, 04:17 PM)
find the right ppl aka piano mover.... it will be little more $$$ than ordinary mover but if anything might happen to the piano, that little saving will not be able to cover the cost of repair anyways.... so why not go for the right ppl....  i am not saying there's no risk if is handled by piano movers but the risk is many times higher if is done by improper trained or inexperienced movers..... although piano is built tough (over 22 tones of stress coming from the piano strings) it's very fragile and can be very heavy, depending on size. a little mistake and u will be screaming out from ur lungs.....

and, most piano mover will have some sort of insurance, or liablity coverage... check wif them and see... do note, you dont wanna pay the cost of repairs "hundred/thousand" times $$$ just for becoz of trying to save the little bit of $.
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i found a local piano mover by google it. You can try to google it too and see if it is helpful.

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post May 8 2011, 09:11 AM

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Third that. I think jhp knows what he or she is talking about. always found his views helpful so i guess you should take his advice
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post May 9 2011, 12:34 AM

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I need these two piano sheets urgently. Could anybody tell me where can I get them? I have to play them in my church member's wedding ceremony which will be held at church. I don't want something that is too simple like what we use to play for beginner or Grade 1.




I just get to know my piano result yesterday. Didn't expect it will turn out that good smile.gif My teacher suggested me to take one more Licentiate but different exam board. That is ABRSM. I heard LRSM is much harder than LTCL and LLCM. What I am worried is I afraid I will fail. What are the things I need to take note? What are the things that the ABRSM examiners are looking for? What makes it so difficult to pass?

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tq all for the advices.
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post May 9 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(christellia @ May 9 2011, 12:34 AM)
I need these two piano sheets urgently. Could anybody tell me where can I get them? I have to play them in my church member's wedding ceremony which will be held at church. I don't want something that is too simple like what we use to play for beginner or Grade 1.

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I just get to know my piano result yesterday. Didn't expect it will turn out that good smile.gif My teacher suggested me to take one more Licentiate but different exam board. That is ABRSM. I heard LRSM is much harder than LTCL and LLCM. What I am worried is I afraid I will fail. What are the things I need to take note? What are the things that the ABRSM examiners are looking for? What makes it so difficult to pass?
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hi christellia Congratz to your piano result. Hope I can get to LTCL in 2 or 3 years time. And LRSM is harder than LTCL? Maybe coz of quick study and viva rite? But pieces from both side should be more or less the same.

The wedding song you played for your church is the classic wedding song. Its good to play that but both videos you shared are a performance by a group of string ensemble at the least of 4 violins, 2 violas and 2 cellos and the more the merrier (not too much though). I guess the classic wedding song is pretty easy to find anywhere in music stores.

Anyway... I always prefer a different new type of wedding song like canon (again needs a string ensemble sweat.gif )

down here is another wedding piece that can be play during or after the wedding... more joyful feels.



I got the piece... you can just pm me if you want it. Not too hard but quite a number of triple/quadruple stops though.

Edited: I got the piece so if you want, can just pm me for it.

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post May 9 2011, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(christellia @ May 9 2011, 12:34 AM)
I heard LRSM is much harder than LTCL and LLCM...What makes it so difficult to pass?
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quick study, a.k.a sight reading. why sight reading making LRSM difficult to pass? because it COMPULSORY to pass quick study. LRSM quick study pieces will be grade 7 standard, and FRSM will have quick study of grade 8 pieces.

viva...just need to be well prepared, everything you write down on the notes must be backed with reason. e.g., bach wrote 48 prelude and fugue. examiner will ask why? then you have to provide a reason - because bach want to demonstrate equal tuning played on all keys.

1st hand information from ABRSM diploma seminar i attended.
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QUOTE(christellia @ May 9 2011, 12:34 AM)
I need these two piano sheets urgently. Could anybody tell me where can I get them? I have to play them in my church member's wedding ceremony which will be held at church. I don't want something that is too simple like what we use to play for beginner or Grade 1.




I just get to know my piano result yesterday. Didn't expect it will turn out that good smile.gif My teacher suggested me to take one more Licentiate but different exam board. That is ABRSM. I heard LRSM is much harder than LTCL and LLCM. What I am worried is I afraid I will fail. What are the things I need to take note? What are the things that the ABRSM examiners are looking for? What makes it so difficult to pass?
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Hi Christella,

Are you playing this on the piano? If yes, do you like this version? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b665k2ELueg&feature=related
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QUOTE(liez @ May 9 2011, 12:40 PM)
hi christellia Congratz to your piano result. Hope I can get to LTCL in 2 or 3 years time. And LRSM is harder than LTCL? Maybe coz of quick study and viva rite? But pieces from both side should be more or less the same.

The wedding song you played for your church is the classic wedding song. Its good to play that but both videos you shared are a performance by a group of string ensemble at the least of 4 violins, 2 violas and 2 cellos and the more the merrier (not too much though). I guess the classic wedding song is pretty easy to find anywhere in music stores.

Anyway... I always prefer a different new type of wedding song like canon (again needs a string ensemble  sweat.gif )

down here is another wedding piece that can be play during or after the wedding... more joyful feels.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


I got the piece... you can just pm me if you want it. Not too hard but quite a number of triple/quadruple stops though.

Edited: I got the piece so if you want, can just pm me for it.
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Hi, liez. Thank you smile.gif You can do it too! I broke my record. I never thought that I will score 90/100 wub.gif You are right. The duration for both programme are almost the same.

Haha, I won't play like the string ensemble. Maybe much more simple. I don't think I can play that wedding song in my church. What I posted are for bridal processional and recessional respectively. Plus, my church has the history of 100+ years. They are not that open yet. Maybe I can play that after bridal recessional. I need to ask for the permission. If I need it, I will pm you smile.gif

QUOTE(little ice @ May 9 2011, 01:26 PM)
quick study, a.k.a sight reading. why sight reading making LRSM difficult to pass? because it COMPULSORY to pass quick study. LRSM quick study pieces will be grade 7 standard, and FRSM will have quick study of grade 8 pieces.

viva...just need to be well prepared, everything you write down on the notes must be backed with reason. e.g., bach wrote 48 prelude and fugue. examiner will ask why? then you have to provide a reason - because bach want to demonstrate equal tuning played on all keys.

1st hand information from ABRSM diploma seminar i attended.
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Is that means I must pass the quick study in order to pass LRSM?

The standard of the quick study is almost similar to LLCM. LLCM sight reading difficulty is between Grade 6 and 7. I believe LRSM would be more difficult.

I think viva is much more easier than sight reading. It is slightly same with programme note but more thoroughly . All I need to do is research, understanding and like what you said well prepared. Correct me if I am wrong.

QUOTE(Skydrop @ May 10 2011, 09:10 AM)
Hi Christella,

Are you playing this on the piano?  If yes, do you like this version? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b665k2ELueg&feature=related
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Hi, Skydrop. I am going play that but your version is much more romantic than mine. I got to ask for permission first. Where can I get the piano score? I mean yours.
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post May 10 2011, 12:15 PM

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Wow so this is the piano clan, mind if i tag along? is it ok to share contemporary music here? i just finished arranging and recording this song, "Pretty Boy" by M2M and uploaded it on youtube, using Yamaha P140 (discontinued, i guess). i hope you guys like it as well as the piano tone! smile.gif



of course, any comments & criticism are welcomed. thank you

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QUOTE(christellia @ May 10 2011, 12:00 PM)
Is that means I must pass the quick study in order to pass LRSM?

The standard of the quick study is almost similar to LLCM. LLCM sight reading difficulty is between Grade 6 and 7. I believe LRSM would be more difficult.

I think viva is much more easier than sight reading. It is slightly same with programme note but more thoroughly . All I need to do is research, understanding and like what you said well prepared. Correct me if I am wrong.
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yes. MUST pass. ohmy.gif

LLCM i'm not sure. i think overall that's the reason why people opt for trinity diplomas. however, trinity diplomas, as far as i can see, are much higher standard for the repertoires compared to ABRSM, at leats for violin. so they sort of equal.

viva is of course easier than quick study. but you just have to be well prepared, as if you know the pieces and composers inside out including how many times bach's wife corrected his bad habits (exaggerated hehe). everything you write, especially those pretty "normal" ones, those are the ones examiners will attack. actually not just the program notes, things like why you use pedal on certain bach pieces, why you play more detached or more legato, why crescendo much slower. note that there's no correct answer, but the reason you provided has be to convincing like playing bach add a little pedal help sustain the notes, or not using pedal because the hall has heavy reverbs.
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Christella, if you confirm playing, I can ask my friend for the arrangement.
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QUOTE(Skydrop @ May 10 2011, 10:55 PM)
Christella, if you confirm playing, I can ask my friend for the arrangement.
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Thanks smile.gif I found the score on a website.

I'm not quite sure what can I do with those Trinity and LCM diploma in performing certificates. I mean career and further study opportunity.

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QUOTE(christellia @ May 12 2011, 09:59 PM)
Thanks smile.gif  I found the score on a website.

I'm not quite sure what can I do with those Trinity and LCM diploma in performing certificates. I mean career and further study opportunity.
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its good to have those certs keeping with you. My sisters and I are not in the music industry but we do like to get certs so will not stop learning of course. You should try to challenge for FT. brows.gif Once you get that, you can choose to teach professionally and focus only on Grade 8 and above students... very profiting I would say... Of course you don't want to spoil the student's fee market. The very average fee for grade 8 is RM100 per hour. Get 8 students a day and teach for 20 days you can RM16k. A lil higher than a normal MPO players.

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QUOTE(liez @ May 13 2011, 01:08 AM)
Get 8 students a day and teach for 20 days you can RM16k. A lil higher than a normal MPO players.
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So many Grade 8 students around?
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QUOTE(Pseudonym @ May 13 2011, 08:45 AM)
So many Grade 8 students around?
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its actually quite alot.... nowadays many kids have grade 8 and above.
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most professionals with licentiate or master degree and above will charge at least RM100 per hour, usually, regardless of the level. when it comes to this price range, it's usually grade 5 and above students.

majority of the public can only afford up to RM300 per month. anything more is heavy on the wallet.
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QUOTE(liez @ May 13 2011, 01:08 AM)
You should try to challenge for FT.  brows.gif
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My teacher did ask me to go for that. I will go for LRSM first.

QUOTE(little ice @ May 13 2011, 01:32 PM)
most professionals with licentiate or master degree and above will charge at least RM100 per hour, usually, regardless of the level. when it comes to this price range, it's usually grade 5 and above students.

majority of the public can only afford up to RM300 per month. anything more is heavy on the wallet.
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I see. I'm not that professional. Still need a lot of hard work and commitment. How about the further study opportunity?

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post May 13 2011, 02:51 PM

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just go youtube and self learn, more easy
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but some skills can't be learnt by yourself... You go for class coz you're after the teacher's technique. Teacher can customise pieces according to your ability. Teacher able to identify the best of you and bring it out... youtube can't do it..
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QUOTE(christellia @ May 13 2011, 02:39 PM)
How about the further study opportunity?
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it depends on what you want to become, and whether you're going into classical world, or others.

if you're into classical world, whatever you're going to do, you have to teach to survive, income wise. so classical musicians will benefit from certs and degrees, and master is pretty much a base requirement to be able to teach full time in universities.

besides teaching, as a classical musicians, solo recital is rare and hard to attract the public, unless you're superstar. even top orchestra like MPO also expecting to have half full hall often.

specific instrument wise, in the piano world, accompianist is one of field with quite a lot of demands, many other instrument like flute, violin, cello, clarinet, they all need piano accompaniment, for recitals or for exams. there're exceptional musicians with special talents like Loo Bang Hean who can sight read music almost like machine, best suited to become accompanist (on top of it, Mr. Loo has got impressive piano skill!). time is money, nobody can afford to give you many session of practice and rehearsal before going up on stage. so 2 to 3 rehearsals and up on stage is pretty common.

sorry i don't have more informations about classical piano world. unless you want to know more about contemporary music (pop jazz rock etc). smile.gif

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