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MayWong
post Apr 30 2008, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(wendymelon @ Apr 29 2008, 05:33 PM)
MayWong, tuning up piano cost roughly RM120 only. You can start picking up your skill by playing the pop songs which are normally easier than those classical pieces i believe. It is such a waste to stop just like that because u're a pro already! U've got a grade 8 certificate, my dear.
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Oh? didnt know it is that cheap. But i think some of my keys are spoilt.. needs to be changed.

Do you have the contacts?

also, is it a must to tune my piano after moving house

im moving in september, but really tempted to play my piano again now...


Added on April 30, 2008, 5:30 pmoh.. and i stopped at grade 8.. so didnt get the cert for practical... but yes for theory.

dont think im ever going to continue.. sigh...

This post has been edited by MayWong: Apr 30 2008, 05:30 PM
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post Apr 30 2008, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(MayWong @ Apr 30 2008, 05:28 PM)
Oh? didnt know it is that cheap. But i think some of my keys are spoilt.. needs to be changed.

Do you have the contacts?

also, is it a must to tune my piano after moving house

im moving in september, but really tempted to play my piano again now...


Added on April 30, 2008, 5:30 pmoh.. and i stopped at grade 8.. so didnt get the cert for practical... but yes for theory.

dont think im ever going to continue.. sigh...
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MayWong, I believe from from Malaysiabrides forum too. ehhehe....the contact : 0192261294 (Ronnie).

A piece of advice for u....do not tune immediately after you move in. Wait at least for 3 days then only tune.
TSicypetals
post Apr 30 2008, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 30 2008, 05:09 PM)
you missed the point. even you have the knowledge, will you be able to pass it through the next generation if you don't have the ability to teach? do you think every student is the same plain white paper made from the same material?

also do you know that degree holder especially master and above normally won't teach in music center?

and finally, it's not that the she's asking a lot, the fees the center pay is below average, a.k.a underpaid, at least compared to KL/Selangor area. i don't have much clue how much is the average pay there, though.
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well i live in small town in kedah and i think the fees is quite average. but im 16 and the cost of living here is low in here.

anyway, u are right too, even if a person have a knowledege, but has no idea to pass it down, then it shall alll go down the drain.

BUT,

if a teacher who has
A master degree from julliard+ Ultra duper awesome teaching skill,

then u has a awesome teacher.
'cept, u dont get perfect teacher's like that. sweat.gif

eventhou what, answering the question before, having a degree/diploma will get you a higher pay no doubt.

moniqee
post May 1 2008, 10:33 PM

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i'm playing piano... >.< going to take diploma this year june 10... >.<

exam pieces

Mozart - Sonata in Cminor K457
Bach - Prelude and Fugue No.6 BWV 851
Chopin - Polonaise Op 26 Number 1

any tips on these 3 songs?? >.< my teacher kept on scolding me... coz my expression on these 3 songs.. kept on changing every week... it's kinda like 1 week ok ... 1 week good... 1 week lousy... >.<

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post May 1 2008, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ May 1 2008, 10:33 PM)
my teacher kept on scolding me... coz my expression on these 3 songs.. kept on changing every week... it's kinda like 1 week ok ... 1 week good... 1 week lousy... >.<
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you must understand expression is not technical thing, you don't "read" them, as written or something. play it with emotion. understand the music, what're the stories behind the music is trying to tell. story telling also need emotional expression, music is just the same.

you might also caught in a problem that you only want to play the music for your teacher or the examiner, you'll not gain any musical sense if you think that way. instead, try to imagine you want to play for music lover, play for lots of audiences, or play to your love one. you want them to enjoy the story, not just want to show how well you can tell the story.

and then, there's teacher who want you to follow his/her interpretation/expression exactly, while some will allow the student to freely express themself, with their own interpretation. the latter is the true way of playing music, it's YOUR way of telling the stories. smile.gif

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TSicypetals
post May 2 2008, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ May 1 2008, 10:33 PM)
i'm playing piano... >.< going to take diploma this year june 10... >.<

exam pieces

Mozart - Sonata in Cminor K457
Bach - Prelude and Fugue No.6 BWV 851
Chopin - Polonaise Op 26 Number 1

any tips on these 3 songs?? >.< my teacher kept on scolding me... coz my expression on these 3 songs.. kept on changing every week... it's kinda like 1 week ok ... 1 week good... 1 week lousy... >.<
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well, u can first check out the musical background/history of the composer, that way u will understand more of the piece.
moniqee
post May 2 2008, 07:47 PM

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thanks for the advise... hopefully i don't kaput during exam since it's already may... left 1 month... >.< i really hope to pass the exam since it's not "cheap" - RM1030...
TSicypetals
post May 2 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ May 2 2008, 07:47 PM)
thanks for the advise... hopefully i don't kaput during exam since it's already may... left 1 month... >.< i really hope to pass the exam since it's not "cheap" - RM1030...
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you can only get either 2Xps2/Wii/DS+banyak game/psp+2mmry card/new TV/second hand bike/new electric guitar/new bajus

nothing much la.

good luck on getting distinction.
Im aiming distiction.
little ice
post May 3 2008, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 2 2008, 11:09 PM)
nothing much la.
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wait until you start to earn your very first RM1030... brows.gif
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post May 3 2008, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ May 3 2008, 12:17 AM)
wait until you start to earn your very first RM1030... brows.gif
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im exxagerating thumbup.gif

anyway, my teacher keep on telling me to stay back in yamaha to teach since form 1 until now when i finnish my school. seems like he sees alot in me doh.gif some more always push all the chamber music work to me, nice at first, but damn it organizing the members is a pain in the doh.gif
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post May 3 2008, 11:30 PM

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walao..
now piano fees so expensive liao....
luckily i stop learning ady..
juz play for fun and play for show off...XD
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post May 4 2008, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(x-crusader @ May 3 2008, 11:30 PM)
walao..
now piano fees so expensive liao....
luckily i stop learning ady..
juz play for fun and play for show off...XD
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why stop hmm.gif ?
even after grd 8 they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many things to learn la.

my fees UPDATED
yamaha higher musicianship course 180
grade 8 180
violin double lesson 120

total 480

KEDAH SO SMALL TOWN ALSO So expensive.

wonder how is KL
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post May 4 2008, 09:47 PM

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almost 50% more then ur rate?
moniqee
post May 4 2008, 09:51 PM

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i'm learning diploma... so just my practical already cost RM320... and i'm learning from my teacher's place. ^__^
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post May 5 2008, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(wendymelon @ Apr 30 2008, 07:46 PM)
MayWong, I believe from from Malaysiabrides forum too. ehhehe....the contact : 0192261294 (Ronnie).

A piece of advice for u....do not tune immediately after you move in. Wait at least for 3 days then only tune.
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eh, yes yes.. im from the malaysian brides forum too... hehehehe... you must be in there too right! smile.gif

thanks for the contact.

Another question... should i tune my piano now.. or wait till october after i move into my new hse?

Is it a MUST to tune after moving?
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post May 5 2008, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(MayWong @ May 5 2008, 02:00 PM)
Another question... should i tune my piano now.. or wait till october after i move into my new hse?

Is it a MUST to tune after moving?
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absolutely. everytime a piano is moved from one place to another the tuning will be off a little.

you can tune now, but it'll be wasted.
Haneda
post May 6 2008, 07:16 AM

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Hi fellow pianist! Joining the club smile.gif I stopped playing more than 10yrs ago. was ABRSM grade 5 then but recently just got myself a yamaha keyboard. quite surprised i can still play after a little practice... tho very messily and sloppy biggrin.gif

I can't sight play at a glance... I now memorize the sheet for my finger positioning and listen to youtube/mp3 for the tempo and dynamics... nodame style.. haha

Anyone here attended Play by Ear classes? I like to hear your comments before I decide to enroll. They charge RM500 for the 1st 10 lessons.
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QUOTE(Haneda @ May 6 2008, 07:16 AM)
Hi fellow pianist! Joining the club smile.gif I stopped playing more than 10yrs ago. was ABRSM grade 5 then but recently just got myself a yamaha keyboard. quite surprised i can still play after a little practice... tho very messily and sloppy biggrin.gif

I can't sight play at a glance... I now memorize the sheet for my finger positioning and listen to youtube/mp3 for the tempo and dynamics... nodame style.. haha

Anyone here attended Play by Ear classes? I like to hear your comments before I decide to enroll. They charge RM500 for the 1st 10 lessons.
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Welcome! thumbup.gif
i dont think you nd the play by ear course cause that course is for those who nv learn before.

if u still have ur abrsm 5 cert, u can take to the music centre and coutinue ur abrsm grd 6. u just nd sometime to pick up.
WE can nv forget how to play it, it tends to get sloppy, but can be shapend.

anyway,u learn more in ABRSM studies compared to play by ear.
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post May 6 2008, 04:45 PM

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The reason i stopped my ABRSM studies was because it was too formal. I don't like taking exams and forced to practice songs that I do not like. I only like playing songs that i can relate to, like songs from my favorite anime, drama, games, pop songs... since Play By Ear classes seems to be more casual, not sure if it'll be more suitable for me.


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post May 6 2008, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Haneda @ May 6 2008, 04:45 PM)
The reason i stopped my ABRSM studies was because it was too formal. I don't like taking exams and forced to practice songs that I do not like. I only like playing songs that i can relate to, like songs from my favorite anime, drama, games, pop songs... since Play By Ear classes seems to be more casual, not sure if it'll be more suitable for me.
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Haneda,

Play By Ear is for comtemporary/pop songs. It's no you learn very little, but it's more than enough for you to be able to play most contemporary songs, even up to the level you don't need. It's simply underrated by those who doesn't know about the course and what it do.

Basically Play by Ear teaches you MUSIC. It teach you how to listen to a song, most people would be able to capture the melody easily. You'll also learn how to feel the music and learn how to create chords from there. The music coach duty is to guide you through the process and help you out. This course is even beneficial for a conventional Grade 5 to even Grade 8 students who seems lost or learning blindly, which will take them sometime to fix the puzzles.

You can go for the demo or evaluation and decide for yourself.
Else, you can ask if they will have a preview anytime soon. There, you can understand more on the course.

FYI, with this course, you can still take up Exams if you want. They have recently ties up with London Music School, and you can get a certificate from there. All you need to do is just play 3 contemporary songs they provided, and 1 songs of your choice. No theory, no paper, just play.

Also, FYI, they're featured on the newspaper a few times.

Just for your insights:
Level 1 - 20 classes: You'll learn the basic chords and up to 9 (I think) playing styles, you'll also learn how to create your own styles, arrange a song yourself. You're also allowed to bring 1 song of your own.
Level 2 - 20 classes: More on left hand bassing ideas, very much on left hand and bassing. You'll learn those playing styles like Bossanova, Jazz, etc. You'll also learn how to play as an accompaniment.
Level3 - 40 classes: Previously there is only 20 classes, now they extend to 40. Not really sure on the details of this course as I haven't take it up yet. I was told its much more advance and will teach you about adding notes, and such to a song.

There're also other courses after this, such as, "Popular Keyboard Method", where they teaches you how to use your keyboard features andplay like a band.

Your 10 classes I think should be Level 1 first 10 classes. I took that same course first, but when I took it, it was RM650++ if I'm not wrong. After that you can upgrade to Level 1 with the remaining 10 classes.

Don't just take my word or anybody's word. Go SEE for yourself.
We're just giving you our opinions and advice.
As for me, I'm sharing my experiences as a student there as well.



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