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2008 Beijing Olympics:should the world boycott it?, issit a wise move? opinions plz!
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Gr3yL3gion81
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 Apr 1 2008, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Apr 1 2008, 10:47 PM) That is a possible reaction. But isn't it time to knock some sense into some of them, few though there might be. My forum fren(a Filipino Chinse working in shenzhen) has the best reply so far. QUOTE The Chinese' legendary cultural loyalty has been an age old worry of governments everywhere. It can't be helped. It's just the way we are no matter what country we are in (so this is not an issue exclusive to Australia). Even 3rd generation natives to the new home with only 50% Chinese blood (like me) or those whose ancestors have been there in the new home for so long they don't even know when and how they ended up there (like KD) identify themselves as culturally Chinese, and will undoubtedly pass on this cultural identity to a new generation, despite any Westernization that we have gained (and admittedly enjoy) ourselves. This stubbornness is what have allowed our ethnicity to exist for millenia despite all the political changes and upheavals. Others get assimilated. We don't.
Now this cultural loyalty does not automatically mean loyalty to the political entity of China. Heck most of us "left" when the PRC didn't exist yet. But it does translate to sympathy to the ethnic and cultural entity of China, no matter who or what its government happens to be at the moment (We overseas Chinese may hate the CCP's guts, but we are not going to wish for, much less work towards its downfall if it means ruin and chaos for our mainland brethen). Your Chinese-Australians have not seen first-hand information of strife in Tibet, but they have seen first-hand rioters thrashing the Chinese embassy in the city where they live. Based on what you described about their reaction I for one would not expect anything less from them, and am thankful they're disciplined and civil enough not to go on retaliatory rampages themselves. We don't need our image to get tarnished any further. Western bias against Chinese would not only anger PRC's Chinese only, as well as their own native Chinese as well. |
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joe_mamak
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Apr 1 2008, 10:58 PM
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So be it.
Over here in Malaysia, I don't think the Malaysian Chinese will be that angry.
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Gr3yL3gion81
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Apr 1 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Apr 1 2008, 10:58 PM) So be it. Over here in Malaysia, I don't think the Malaysian Chinese will be that angry. Only if our gomen is that stupid enough to boycott Chinese Olympics. |
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Avex
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Apr 1 2008, 11:03 PM
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i will still watch it on Astro
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geolee
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Apr 1 2008, 11:20 PM
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Getting Started
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I hate it when people take human rights into account when anything happen
there is no single country which practise RIGHT human rights
There is always a motive behind a human rights
Tibet wants free from China, they protest they riot. That is what we do when we ask for independence.
I don't see what is wrong there.
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joe_mamak
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Apr 1 2008, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Apr 1 2008, 11:02 PM) Only if our gomen is that stupid enough to boycott Chinese Olympics. Our government is not stupid lah. Our foreign ministry already sent message to Chinese government - Malaysia backs China in maintaining stability in Tibet http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/...ent_7880601.htmBut what if the rioting and the crackdown was in Xinjiang where there are Muslim Chinese? Malaysia as the OIC chair country would have to take a firmer stance. |
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Gr3yL3gion81
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Apr 1 2008, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Apr 1 2008, 11:38 PM) Our government is not stupid lah. Our foreign ministry already sent message to Chinese government - Malaysia backs China in maintaining stability in Tibet http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/...ent_7880601.htmBut what if the rioting and the crackdown was in Xinjiang where there are Muslim Chinese? Malaysia as the OIC chair country would have to take a firmer stance. Being an anarch, that's the most anticipated war ever. |
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joe_mamak
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Apr 1 2008, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(geolee @ Apr 1 2008, 11:20 PM) I hate it when people take human rights into account when anything happen there is no single country which practise RIGHT human rights There is always a motive behind a human rights Tibet wants free from China, they protest they riot. That is what we do when we ask for independence. I don't see what is wrong there. Hate is such a strong word. Cool lah.  Yeah, no country has ideal human rights. Or maybe except for those Nordic countries. But that's something we humans should aspire to. We might just get there one day. Even if it wasn't about independence (the Dalai Lama is now only asking for greater freedom and autonomy), the least the Chinese government can do is to treat Tibetans better. |
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hz428
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 Apr 1 2008, 11:54 PM
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boycott??! ARE YOU STUPID OR WHAT??!!!  SOME PEOPLE JUST LIKE TO MAKE SOME HUUUUU HAAAAAA OUT OF NOTHING |
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POYOZER
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Apr 2 2008, 12:02 AM
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asian for asia
so, no need to boycott
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joe_mamak
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Apr 2 2008, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(hz428 @ Apr 1 2008, 11:54 PM) boycott??! ARE YOU STUPID OR WHAT??!!! SOME PEOPLE JUST LIKE TO MAKE SOME HUUUUU HAAAAAA OUT OF NOTHING Out of nothing? http://www.freetibet.org/press/pr180308.htmlExplore the whole site. PS. No need to shout and be abusive. We can be civil in kopitiam, you know? Of course an English Tea Room, kopitiam isn't. |
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joe_mamak
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Apr 2 2008, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Apr 2 2008, 12:02 AM) asian for asia so, no need to boycott Tibet for Tibetans. |
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maximus85
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Apr 2 2008, 12:52 AM
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fark all this boycott things.... its stupid.....politics shouldnt be put into sports.... guess wat...all this boycott stuffs is because the farking US is afraid of the ever growing China force.... the tibet incidents are just an excuse to their agenda....  this is really the American at their best...... |
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joe_mamak
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Apr 2 2008, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Apr 2 2008, 12:52 AM) fark all this boycott things.... its stupid.....politics shouldnt be put into sports.... guess wat...all this boycott stuffs is because the farking US is afraid of the ever growing China force.... the tibet incidents are just an excuse to their agenda.... this is really the American at their best...... Don't see it that way. The US know China won't budge, China will do whatever necessary to hold on to Tibet. The US can't achieve anything tangible. Perhaps, US and the European countries are reacting that way because they truly believe in speaking out where there is wrong. Well, that's what they are talking about anyway. There might be hidden motives but what can they really achieve? By the way, even the US Speaker is only calling for Bush to boycott the opening ceremony and not for a complete boycott of the games. Some news links - http://www.france24.com/en/20080321-pelosi...-tibet-china-ushttp://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4563609&page=1 |
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mitodna
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Apr 2 2008, 02:20 AM
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ikanayam
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Apr 2 2008, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Apr 1 2008, 10:58 AM) So be it. Over here in Malaysia, I don't think the Malaysian Chinese will be that angry. Oh they will be. |
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SUS-eve-
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Apr 2 2008, 02:29 AM
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New Member
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nobody can stop the ultimate country.
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iKen
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Apr 2 2008, 02:45 AM
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Getting Started
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These is stupid.
They shouldn't mix sports with politics together.
Fight politic with politic.
Imagine those athletes who work so hard to compete in the Olympic!
They waited so long and the length of being athletes are not long!
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skippro
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Apr 2 2008, 03:51 AM
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olympics = $$$$$$. nuff said
& down with f%%%ing china
This post has been edited by skippro: Apr 2 2008, 03:51 AM
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feynman
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Apr 2 2008, 06:02 AM
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Look at all my stars!!
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Ini semua kerja orang gila punya lah.....
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