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 2008 Beijing Olympics:should the world boycott it?, issit a wise move? opinions plz!

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TSbhypp
post Apr 1 2008, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(yukikaze @ Apr 1 2008, 05:59 PM)
then we should boycott US products as well
they invade iraq
their soldiers violate the human right as well as animal
doesnt that sound familiar?
i don;t think so that people should boycott

just my 2 cents
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im saying boycott the games la...not boycott chinese products....wrong analogy man! cool2.gif
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post Apr 1 2008, 06:51 PM

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no... i wana see the Cube!!!
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post Apr 1 2008, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 1 2008, 06:26 PM)
boycotting seems like a dumb act to me.

politics shouldn't be mixed with sports.

imagine you're of of the chosen athletes, you have trained like mad. then it goes to nothing when some big belly president of your country boycott the game.
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erm i think ur abit wrong here.....its not totally politics...yes...autonomy of tibet is a political issue but u can also see it in a humanitarian way....ppl are being murdered everyday in tibet, their culture being destroyed, these are not political issues anymore are they? athletes are humans too....they can all stand together and deliver the message cool2.gif
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post Apr 1 2008, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(firedauz @ Apr 1 2008, 06:42 PM)
How was China picked to host the Olympic if their records were not good?
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how did germany / russia get to host olympics in the past then??? well the selection is dodgy anyway....so lets not go into the details....but maybe there are some parties who are hoping that the chinese govt will clean up their acts (teach the ppl how to queue, teach them not to spit, teach them hygiene) and bring themselves up to a standard comparable if not equivalent to all other 'big shot' nations....but i think china is still the old china.... flex.gif

QUOTE(Jasonist @ Apr 1 2008, 06:51 PM)
no... i wana see the Cube!!!
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u mean the venue?? i only know that besi buruk stadium aka birds nest....

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post Apr 1 2008, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(firedauz @ Apr 1 2008, 06:42 PM)
How was China picked to host the Olympic if their records were not good?
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Part 1: How China Chosen as 2008 Olympic Host?

The new two-phase host city election procedure, adopted by the 110th IOC Session in December 1999, was used for the election of the host city for the Games of the XXIX Olympiad in 2008.

Following this new procedure, cities must pass an initial selection phase during which basic technical requirements are examined by a team of experts and then put forward to the IOC Executive Board. The 10 applicant cities for the Games of the XXIX Olympiad in 2008 put forward to the IOC Executive Board were: Bangkok, Beijing, Cairo, Havana, Istanbul, Kuala Lumpur, Osaka, Paris, Seville, Toronto.

Once approved by the Executive Board, the cities become official Candidate Cities and are authorised to go forward into the full bid process. The five Candidate Cities for 2008 accepted by the IOC Executive Board on 28 August 2000 were (in the order of drawing of lots): Osaka, Paris, Toronto, Beijing, Istanbul.

The full bid process includes notably the submission of a Candidature File to the IOC, followed by the visit of the IOC Evaluation Commission to each of the Candidate Cities. The Evaluation Commission studies the candidatures of each Candidate City, inspects the sites and submits a written report on all candidatures to the IOC two months before the Session which will elect the host city.On 13 July 2001 at the 112th IOC Session in Moscow, Beijing was elected the Host City for the Games of the XXIX Olympiad in 2008.112th IOC Session in Moscow, 13 July 2001: election of the host city for the XXIX Olympiad in Beijing
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no where was human rights history or Tibet mentioned.
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post Apr 1 2008, 07:07 PM

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Thanks beelzebob13 biggrin.gif
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post Apr 1 2008, 07:18 PM

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I won't support boycott, leave politics out of sports, thank you.

You could only change peoples mind by engaging them, not boycotting them. Hence actions such as this and others like economy sanctions, trade embargo then to be failure.
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post Apr 1 2008, 07:36 PM

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The question you should be asking yourself is, why now?

Why not 1 year ago? 2 years ago? Why now? Did China just recently violated human rights? biggrin.gif

PS: That Dalai Lama couldn't have picked a better time. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 1 2008, 08:27 PM

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I think it's stupid to boycott the game. It solves no problem.
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post Apr 1 2008, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Apr 1 2008, 08:27 PM)
I think it's stupid to boycott the game. It solves no problem.
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but it would send a signal of disapproval to china with regards to its actions.
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post Apr 1 2008, 08:35 PM

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I heard Yao Ming is injured, won't be able to compete in Olympics. There goes one of their superstar hero.
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post Apr 1 2008, 08:40 PM

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its an extremely polluted city. why anyone would think holding a world class sporting event there is a good idea is a mystery to me.
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post Apr 1 2008, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(WillHung @ Apr 1 2008, 06:08 PM)
i think we should. china has little regard for human rights. all they think about is how they can make more money, even if at the expense of their own people.
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I disagree with 'china making more money' sure in an ideal world not every one will be 'clean'. but it's the government policies to stay in power, by manipulating the media and various propaganda.


QUOTE(creap @ Apr 1 2008, 07:36 PM)
The question you should be asking yourself is, why now?

Why not 1 year ago? 2 years ago? Why now? Did China just recently violated human rights? biggrin.gif

PS: That Dalai Lama couldn't have picked a better time. biggrin.gif
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Well if china refuse to negotiate with the Dalai Lama??
so who's being picky now? for all china care they all gonna wait for him to die and ones for all finish off all tibeten culture. China's human right is among the worst in the world, come on guys would you like the government harrasing you unless you are a 'good citizen'. Nvr the less even the US are hypocrites of their own words, especially the Gitmo. I feel european countries are more 'civilised' than the US.

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Apr 1 2008, 08:27 PM)
I think it's stupid to boycott the game. It solves no problem.
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Agreed with you in this, but freedom of expression is a basic human right so yeah at least china get the message.
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post Apr 1 2008, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(WillHung @ Apr 1 2008, 08:40 PM)
its an extremely polluted city. why anyone would think holding a world class sporting event there is a good idea is a mystery to me.
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it was reported in Discovery channel that China needs to stop all factories and vehicles on the road for at least months to completely clear the air from pollution

I think no sane athlete would want to compete there lmao
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post Apr 1 2008, 09:54 PM

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Since when did the Olympics become so political ? . . shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Apr 1 2008, 07:18 PM)
I won't support boycott, leave politics out of sports, thank you.

You could only change peoples mind by engaging them, not boycotting them. Hence actions such as this and others like economy sanctions, trade embargo then to be  failure.
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You can't change China's mind. Especially now with its rising power. They will tell everyone to go fly kite.

A boycott will embarrass them a bit. Make her citizens aware that the world has voiced their disapproval.


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post Apr 1 2008, 10:23 PM

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Boycott them! Comunist are still comunist!
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QUOTE(creap @ Apr 1 2008, 07:36 PM)
The question you should be asking yourself is, why now?

Why not 1 year ago? 2 years ago? Why now? Did China just recently violated human rights? biggrin.gif

PS: That Dalai Lama couldn't have picked a better time. biggrin.gif
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why not Now brows.gif


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post Apr 1 2008, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Apr 1 2008, 10:13 PM)
You can't change China's mind.  Especially now with its rising power.  They will tell everyone to go fly kite. 

A boycott will embarrass them a bit.  Make her citizens aware that the world has voiced their disapproval.
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This would just their sense of injustice within their citizens, which we have already witnessed by the backlash of "western bias" within Chinese netizens that had serve no point other than angering them in the process.
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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Apr 1 2008, 10:45 PM)
This would just their sense of injustice within their citizens, which we have already witnessed by the backlash of "western bias" within Chinese netizens that had serve no point other than angering them in the process.
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That is a possible reaction.

But isn't it time to knock some sense into some of them, few though there might be.



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