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 2008 Beijing Olympics:should the world boycott it?, issit a wise move? opinions plz!

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joe_mamak
post Apr 1 2008, 05:23 PM

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Don't just boycott, tarik balik the games from China.

Let some other country or countries hold it. biggrin.gif

This would be chaotic, so the games should be split up to various countries.

Blame China and its poor human rights records for this.
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post Apr 1 2008, 06:00 PM

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Maybe we shouldn't boycott. All the athletes at the opening ceremony (except for China athletes of course) should pull down their shorts and moon the Chinese officials.


Added on April 1, 2008, 6:02 pm

QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 1 2008, 05:41 PM)
We fight for China!
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Humans should fight for human rights.

This post has been edited by joe_mamak: Apr 1 2008, 06:05 PM
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post Apr 1 2008, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 1 2008, 06:26 PM)
boycotting seems like a dumb act to me.

politics shouldn't be mixed with sports.

imagine you're of of the chosen athletes, you have trained like mad. then it goes to nothing when some big belly president of your country boycott the game.
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That's not looking at the full picture.

It's about some big belly president that the majority of your country elected who decided to boycott the games as a sign of protest of all the wrong that the country hosting the games had done and continue to do.


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post Apr 1 2008, 06:35 PM

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Wrong thread. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 1 2008, 06:48 PM

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Just like how USA was given the right to host the Olympics, I suppose.

And like the USSR.

Superpowers. They can do what they want and what are you going to do about it?


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post Apr 1 2008, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Apr 1 2008, 07:18 PM)
I won't support boycott, leave politics out of sports, thank you.

You could only change peoples mind by engaging them, not boycotting them. Hence actions such as this and others like economy sanctions, trade embargo then to be  failure.
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You can't change China's mind. Especially now with its rising power. They will tell everyone to go fly kite.

A boycott will embarrass them a bit. Make her citizens aware that the world has voiced their disapproval.


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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Apr 1 2008, 10:45 PM)
This would just their sense of injustice within their citizens, which we have already witnessed by the backlash of "western bias" within Chinese netizens that had serve no point other than angering them in the process.
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That is a possible reaction.

But isn't it time to knock some sense into some of them, few though there might be.


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post Apr 1 2008, 10:58 PM

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So be it.

Over here in Malaysia, I don't think the Malaysian Chinese will be that angry.






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post Apr 1 2008, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Apr 1 2008, 11:02 PM)
Only if our gomen is that stupid enough to boycott Chinese Olympics.
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Our government is not stupid lah.

Our foreign ministry already sent message to Chinese government -

Malaysia backs China in maintaining stability in Tibet
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/...ent_7880601.htm

But what if the rioting and the crackdown was in Xinjiang where there are Muslim Chinese? Malaysia as the OIC chair country would have to take a firmer stance.


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QUOTE(geolee @ Apr 1 2008, 11:20 PM)
I hate it when people take human rights into account when anything happen
there is no single country which practise RIGHT human rights
There is always a motive behind a human rights

Tibet wants free from China, they protest they riot. That is what we do when we ask for independence.
I don't see what is wrong there.
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Hate is such a strong word. Cool lah. biggrin.gif

Yeah, no country has ideal human rights. Or maybe except for those Nordic countries.

But that's something we humans should aspire to. We might just get there one day.

Even if it wasn't about independence (the Dalai Lama is now only asking for greater freedom and autonomy), the least the Chinese government can do is to treat Tibetans better.




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post Apr 2 2008, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(hz428 @ Apr 1 2008, 11:54 PM)
boycott??! ARE YOU STUPID OR WHAT??!!!
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SOME PEOPLE JUST LIKE TO MAKE SOME HUUUUU HAAAAAA OUT OF NOTHING
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Out of nothing?

http://www.freetibet.org/press/pr180308.html

Explore the whole site.

PS.
No need to shout and be abusive.

We can be civil in kopitiam, you know?

Of course an English Tea Room, kopitiam isn't. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Apr 2 2008, 12:02 AM)
asian for asia
so, no need to boycott
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Tibet for Tibetans. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 2 2008, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Apr 2 2008, 12:52 AM)
fark all this boycott things....

its stupid.....politics shouldnt be put into sports.... doh.gif doh.gif

guess wat...all this boycott stuffs is because the farking US is afraid of the ever growing China force....

the tibet incidents are just an excuse to their agenda.... vmad.gif

this is really the American at their best...... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Don't see it that way. The US know China won't budge, China will do whatever necessary to hold on to Tibet. The US can't achieve anything tangible.

Perhaps, US and the European countries are reacting that way because they truly believe in speaking out where there is wrong. Well, that's what they are talking about anyway. There might be hidden motives but what can they really achieve?

By the way, even the US Speaker is only calling for Bush to boycott the opening ceremony and not for a complete boycott of the games.

Some news links -

http://www.france24.com/en/20080321-pelosi...-tibet-china-us
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4563609&page=1




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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Apr 2 2008, 02:27 AM)
Oh they will be.
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Maybe not all. I would say maybe half-half.




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post Apr 2 2008, 04:34 PM

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kopitiamers are men/women of few words. We squeeze all that we want to say in one line. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ Apr 2 2008, 05:09 PM)
The US should act on issues at their own backyard(read:Guantanamo Bay) before teaching others about human rights, thank you.
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Guantanamo Bay is meant to detain enemy combatants. biggrin.gif

Anyway, at worst you can call them hypocrites. But still doesn't change a thing about China and its poor human rights record.

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post Apr 3 2008, 11:11 PM

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China is cleaning house before the Olympics.

Chinese civil rights activist sentenced for subversion
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/...d.ap/index.html
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QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ Apr 3 2008, 11:40 PM)
US, British, Russia or China.. choose 1..

I say Asia Power!

Dun say 1 thing and do 1 thing..

Tell me which country that have no discrimination against minority..

Malaysia?  shakehead.gif

Discrimination, corruption, and crime against human rights is everywhere..

Boycott Olympic will oni spoilt the meaning of it.. Olympic is the oni place where all nations are united without discrimination.. Everyone from different races and nationality will play against each other at the same court without any favouring.. Duduk sama rendah, berdiri sama tinggi.. Even superpower nation will have to start from the same line and end at the same line.. No extra advantage for them..And without bias

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It isn't about Asian, European or American. So no need to choose.

You say discrimination but you also appear to understand that it goes beyond just that to include human rights.

Just because it happens everywhere doesn't mean we should just don't be bothered.




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QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ Apr 4 2008, 12:09 AM)
Im not saying not to don't bother..

But boycott olympic is not the way.. Im replying to the topic..
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Then what is the way? For over 50+ decades it has really been no way for the Tibetans.

BTW, the boycott could be just for the opening and/or the closing ceremony. Or country leaders, just giving the event a miss.
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QUOTE(kahhuat86 @ Apr 4 2008, 01:58 AM)
bruther, me replying to the topic which says boycott entire olympic.. not replying to u..

Anyway.. it is very naive thinking by saying boycott olympic opening/closing is enuf.. wont change a thing..

The best way is embargo china.. oni if US and europe country support it.. but which country wanna risk to lost their billion dollar investment in china..
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I think a boycott of the opening and closing would be effective. It embarrasses the Chinese government and also sends a message to the Chinese citizens that some countries disapprove what their country is doing.

That is one small step but it is a realistic and a doable step, rather than a trade embargo which isn't going to happen anytime soon.



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