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TSn000b
post Mar 31 2008, 06:15 PM, updated 18y ago

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I don't know about you guys, but I've read and been following the topic of Chinese ed vs English ed gfand have found it very interesting. Then there was another topic back awhile ago about whether language was a barrier between the mediums, etc etc but I can't remember the links (neither did I bookmark them)

To summarize...

Chinese ed stereotype:
-Quiet (and usually studious)
-Not much to say to guys outside the topic of studies or other mundane stuff and very short responses (ie, "how was your day?" -> "fine")
-Need to be straightforward and direct when speaking to them
-Shy

English ed stereotype:
-Talkative (as in easy to have a conversation with)
-Open minded and actions (although sometimes bordering what people call 'slutty')
-Tend to comprehend complex english - like sacarsm, poem hidden meanings, etc
-Okay with using curse words more frequently than their CE counterpart (girls)

Also, I notice that in a situation where a guy who likes a chinese-ed girl confesses to her, but she doesn't like him back, the girl will then tend to try to avoid and ignore that guy as much as possible. In the case of an english-ed girl, the guy and her would most likely just remain friends even if she doesn't share his feelings. Chinese-ed girls also would not be caught dead walking as a pair, side-by-side with another guy unless they are official already (bf-gf) while english-ed girls seem to be okay walking like that with their normal guy friends and classmates

It's even more difficult when you're trying to "cross-attract", like english-ed guy going for chinese-ed girl and vice versa. English-ed guy would probably be too talkative for the chinese-ed girl and the chinese ed guy would probably be too boring for the english-ed girl.

Before somebody starts flaming or shouting troll (hopefully not), remember I'm talking about stereotypes, hard-core. I'm not talking about those 'diluted' chinese ed or english ed who have mixed with the other type until the point where they have become 'less chinese ed' or 'less english ed'

So what does a guy got to do to attract a girl of the opposite education medium? Like how can an english-ed guy try to get a chinese-ed girl when she doesn't really talk that much and is not that responsive (see short response under chinese-ed stereotype above)?

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This post has been edited by n000b: Mar 31 2008, 06:16 PM
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post Mar 31 2008, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(n000b @ Mar 31 2008, 11:15 PM)
I don't know about you guys, but I've read and been following the topic of Chinese ed vs English ed gfand have found it very interesting. Then there was another topic back awhile ago about whether language was a barrier between the mediums, etc etc but I can't remember the links (neither did I bookmark them)

To summarize...

Chinese ed stereotype:
-Quiet (and usually studious)
-Not much to say to guys outside the topic of studies or other mundane stuff and very short responses (ie, "how was your day?" -> "fine")
-Need to be straightforward and direct when speaking to them
-Shy

English ed stereotype:
-Talkative (as in easy to have a conversation with)
-Open minded and actions (although sometimes bordering what people call 'slutty')
-Tend to comprehend complex english - like sacarsm, poem hidden meanings, etc
-Okay with using curse words more frequently than their CE counterpart (girls)

Also, I notice that in a situation where a guy who likes a chinese-ed girl confesses to her, but she doesn't like him back, the girl will then tend to try to avoid and ignore that guy as much as possible. In the case of an english-ed girl, the guy and her would most likely just remain friends even if she doesn't share his feelings. Chinese-ed girls also would not be caught dead walking as a pair, side-by-side with another guy unless they are official already (bf-gf) while english-ed girls seem to be okay walking like that with their normal guy friends and classmates

It's even more difficult when you're trying to "cross-attract", like english-ed guy going for chinese-ed girl and vice versa. English-ed guy would probably be too talkative for the chinese-ed girl and the chinese ed guy would probably be too boring for the english-ed girl.

Before somebody starts flaming or shouting troll (hopefully not), remember I'm talking about stereotypes, hard-core. I'm not talking about those 'diluted' chinese ed or english ed who have mixed with the other type until the point where they have become 'less chinese ed' or 'less english ed'

So what does a guy got to do to attract a girl of the opposite education medium? Like how can an english-ed guy try to get a chinese-ed girl when she doesn't really talk that much and is not that responsive (see short response under chinese-ed stereotype above)?

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When somebody starts a topic like this in Cupid's Corner, they are ""new"" to the forum for obvious reasons  brows.gif
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post Mar 31 2008, 07:38 PM

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i can't agree wif ur summary... cuz i met many types of gals and education is not really a factor of who u r... it's frenz, culture and influence... icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 31 2008, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Mar 31 2008, 07:32 PM)
So who the hell are you really? tongue.gif
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If I told you then I would have to kill you blush.gif
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post Mar 31 2008, 09:08 PM

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Love is blind, bro.... peace
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if u have non constructive retarded comments, keep em to yourself.

to the TS, its obvious u are the latter, u are the english ed, chasing a chinese ed.

Before u go ahead on this, consider what you're getting yourself into. Can u spend the rest of your life with this girl? There IS a huge difference, as chinese ed girls tend to be much much more naive as well, a huge turn off for english ed guys. SOME, not all, go so far as to be shallow minded.

That said and done however, i believe i CAN advise u, since i've gone down this path before. (i regretted, but your ending may differ)

Firstly, chinese ed girls are much easier to please, they like guys who they can share secrets with, talk to easily, and talk to often! Thats the starting path to wind your way to their heart. Surprisingly, cliche expressions of love like flowers seem to do the trick as well.

Try to be more romantic, even if its cliche, like, suddenly calling to say u miss the person, so decided to drop by. say it jokingly. (usually doesnt work on english ed since they begin to feel stalked, while chinese ed tends to feel touched. stereotyping here)

control your foul language. its a bigger turn off for chinese ed girls compared to english ed.

Chinese ed girls also tend to be more easily swayed by material gifts compared to english ed. huge stereotyping here, they may deny it all they want, but everyone likes gifts. english ed will accept it with a note of thanks. chinese ed tends to flush and swoon a lil.

maybe i shud dedicate my blog to relationship advice lol

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post Mar 31 2008, 10:53 PM

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Chinese ed stereotype:
-Quiet (and usually studious)
-Not much to say to guys outside the topic of studies or other mundane stuff and very short responses (ie, "how was your day?" -> "fine")
-Need to be straightforward and direct when speaking to them
-Shy


Totally Not agree v ur summary..... shakehead.gif

i am chinese educated...so?

i am not in any stated criteria..

anyway, i do agree v a forumer

he said..chinese ed ppl like to sing k but eng ed ppl not really interested in karaoke.. biggrin.gif


This post has been edited by complicated_Blue: Mar 31 2008, 10:55 PM
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Well, I am not very sure about the previous thread or what
I glance through as what people comment about Chinese Ed and English Ed girls.

Basically I am a Chinese Ed girl, but I can speak good English and some times people mistake me that I am sort of ABC, perhaps it's due to the slang when I speak English. I am kind of open minded as well, I mix with guys all the time.

Both my ex are English ed, I had no problem with them at all even though in the end we broke up due to some problem, but when comes to communication I can't find any problem with it. In fact we could get along quite well at that moment. So am I Chinese Ed or English Ed?

I will never say Education that build someone's personality, but more towards the culture and thinking, of cause the people they mix with also very important. smile.gif smile.gif
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i disagree....


lazy to elaborate today ^^;;;
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QUOTE(skysherly @ Mar 31 2008, 10:56 PM)
Well, I am not very sure about the previous thread or what
I glance through as what people comment about Chinese Ed and English Ed girls.

Basically I am a Chinese Ed girl, but I can speak good English and some times people mistake me that I am sort of ABC, perhaps it's due to the slang when I speak English. I am kind of open minded as well, I mix with guys all the time.

Both my ex are English ed, I had no problem with them at all even though in the end we broke up due to some problem, but when comes to communication I can't find any problem with it. In fact we could get along quite well at that moment. So am I Chinese Ed or English Ed?

I will never say Education that build someone's personality, but more towards the culture and thinking, of cause the people they mix with also very important.  smile.gif  smile.gif
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lol, which means u arent exactly chinese ed already. i believe the chinese ed here is the REALLY REALLY chinese ed. Speaks broken or halting english, speaks mandarin/canto mostly. all the friends also speak canto/mandarin mostly.
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Mar 31 2008, 10:59 PM)
lol, which means u arent exactly chinese ed already. i believe the chinese ed here is the REALLY REALLY chinese ed. Speaks broken or halting english, speaks mandarin/canto mostly. all the friends also speak canto/mandarin mostly.
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Actually I am someone who is very into Chinese, planning to further my Chinese Literature in Taiwan. Was a freelance writer for Chinese Newspaper and magazine. I can speak pretty well Chinese, even Beijing slang is not a problem for me. In fact I don't think my Chinese is any worse than any "really" Chinese Ed people. To score an A in any exam for Chinese never a problem for me, I represent school for Chinese Literature competition as well. I speak Cantonese at home, Mandarin with some friends, of cause mixture with Cantonese. I do speak broken English as well. So am I not a Chinese Ed girl?
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Seriously, why are we more free-willy on the profanities? Anyone who knows me can tell you how limited my vocabulary is. laugh.gif

And if I may say so, I do notice that there is a strata when it comes to dating. Again, I am stereotyping but if you ask me, I'd say that it goes (in ascending order):

1) Low ed Chinese
2) High ed Chinese
3) Low ed English
4) High ed English

Normally, low ed English educated guys would pursue (1) and (2) while highly educated guys would pursue anyone from (1), (2) or (3).
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to be exact....TS is generalizing the whole group...not targeting particular person.....everyone should see outside of their fren circle......the whole group as one.....just because u and ur fren from chinese/english school might not put u in the same category........


Added on March 31, 2008, 11:31 pm
QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Mar 31 2008, 11:17 PM)
Seriously, why are we more free-willy on the profanities? Anyone who knows me can tell you how limited my vocabulary is. laugh.gif

And if I may say so, I do notice that there is a strata when it comes to dating. Again, I am stereotyping but if you ask me, I'd say that it goes (in ascending order):

1) Low ed Chinese
2) High ed Chinese
3) Low ed English
4) High ed English

Normally, low ed English educated guys would pursue (1) and (2) while highly educated guys would pursue anyone from (1), (2) or (3).
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why highly english ed guy cannot pursue (4)???

This post has been edited by feiming: Mar 31 2008, 11:33 PM
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post Mar 31 2008, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(complicated_Blue @ Mar 31 2008, 10:53 PM)
Chinese ed stereotype:
-Quiet (and usually studious)
-Not much to say to guys outside the topic of studies or other mundane stuff and very short responses (ie, "how was your day?" -> "fine")
-Need to be straightforward and direct when speaking to them
-Shy
Totally Not agree v ur summary..... shakehead.gif

i am chinese educated...so?

i am not in any stated criteria..

anyway, i do agree v a forumer

he said..chinese ed ppl like to sing k but eng ed ppl not really interested in karaoke..  biggrin.gif
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erm.im eng ed & i luv singin k wit my whole bunch of frds eventho we dunno how to read chinese.we memorise d lyrics by hanyupinyin lyrics

QUOTE(skysherly @ Mar 31 2008, 10:56 PM)
Well, I am not very sure about the previous thread or what
I glance through as what people comment about Chinese Ed and English Ed girls.

Basically I am a Chinese Ed girl, but I can speak good English and some times people mistake me that I am sort of ABC, perhaps it's due to the slang when I speak English. I am kind of open minded as well, I mix with guys all the time.

Both my ex are English ed, I had no problem with them at all even though in the end we broke up due to some problem, but when comes to communication I can't find any problem with it. In fact we could get along quite well at that moment. So am I Chinese Ed or English Ed?

I will never say Education that build someone's personality, but more towards the culture and thinking, of cause the people they mix with also very important.  smile.gif  smile.gif
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erm...hes actually referring to d generalisation/stereotyped ones..the really typical ones?

This post has been edited by mayz: Mar 31 2008, 11:48 PM
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cant we just follow those niggaz style...and party all nite
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QUOTE(feiming @ Mar 31 2008, 11:29 PM)
to be exact....TS is generalizing the whole group...not targeting particular person.....everyone should see outside of their fren circle......the whole group as one.....just because u and ur fren from chinese/english school might not put u in the same category........


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why highly english ed guy cannot pursue (4)???
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Can, no problem. My point is that we'd like to pursue people whom we think are inferior. It's an ego thing biggrin.gif If we look fugly, we must be smarter. Hence, beauty and the geek (geek-ly beast to be exact).
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post Apr 1 2008, 12:24 AM

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TS.

It should be Oriental (usually Chinese) influence vs. Western (usually English) influence.

Anyone can take any education they want to. It is their choice of languange that makes all the differences. I can speak Chinese, but due to my extreme influence of the West (i.e. the common stereotype: banana [white in the inside, yellow on the outside]), my Chinese native flow of typical social conversation sucks (extremely WEAK CHINESE LANGUAGE PUNCHLINES) because my mind is thinking in English (due to the Western chosen way of life).

There are girls here who said they do not agree how they are stereotyped just because they have education from both English and Chinese. But which language is the one that dominates your preference and your true personality? You speak Chinese, but are you thinking in English in the inside? You speak English, but are you thinking in Chinese? These questions actually explains a lot. Are you really speaking your mind, or are you simply translating your words into another one, not realizing that translations can sound so cheesy? <----- (Most Chinese/Oriental people cannot find a proper Chinese/or commonly spoken Cantonese translation for this word, because trust me, it is not commonly used. They just nod heads and say emm, emm.)

And even if you're thinking and speaking in English, are you feeling that you want to be more of a Chinese? (Hence taking Chinese class because scared of people calling you banana) And if you're thinking and speaking in Chinese, are you sad that you're not good in the lingua franca?

Or maybe both stereotypes can be generalized simply as this:

Chinese/Oriental influence/way of life: Watches Chinese dramas like you know, like the ones in WLT from Astro.

English/Western influence/way of life: Watches English dramas like Heroes, House M.D, and many more.

If any of you can weigh the qualities and values from both I.Q and E.Q from thoese two types of movies, then you'll get the summary of what a Chinese influenced girl is like and what an English influenced girl is like.

Oh yeah and btw. I'll tell you one bigger truth.

Chinese/Oriental influenced people don't hug regularly = Not so open minded-like culture. (Majority, not all, so please f**k off)

English/Western influenced people = Need me say more? We Asians practised open minded-ness from the West. Hollywood mar. You don't understand English also you go and watch lar D I U.

Perhaps there's one more stereotype between the Chinese and the English influenced/educated.

Those who (Majority) are in Science Stream will know which language they belong to and so are the ones from Art Stream.

It's too obvious. I find more Chinese speaking/influenced ones in Arts Stream. And what does that tell you? Another common stereotype.

So unless a guy can manage to pull off the best of both worlds (which is few, because people always choose to have only one), he's on his own.

Phew. I like asking this question to the Chinese when they call me a banana: "If you are so Chinese, why do you have English names?"

So my conclusion:

Chinese educated/influenced = Not open minded. If if they are, it's not enough.

English educated/influenced = Usually open minded due to exposure and usually due to Hollywood and America (The UN speaks English too).

These conclusion apply to both guys and girls by the way. So if you're a guy going after either a Chinese or English educated/influenced girl, you better be prepared to kick off some of your habits that comes from your way of upbringing (English or Chinese upbringing brings a hell lot of difference). Subsitute Johnny Depp for Wang Li Hom and Destiny's Child for S.H.E. (or vice versa).

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I agree Chinese ed and English ed will have different thinking but when come to girls/guys attraction, the education is not that important anymore, the most important thing is the face and body shape. drool.gif
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QUOTE(n000b @ Mar 31 2008, 05:15 AM)
I don't know about you guys, but I've read and been following the topic of Chinese ed vs English ed gfand have found it very interesting. Then there was another topic back awhile ago about whether language was a barrier between the mediums, etc etc but I can't remember the links (neither did I bookmark them)

To summarize...

Chinese ed stereotype:
-Quiet (and usually studious)
-Not much to say to guys outside the topic of studies or other mundane stuff and very short responses (ie, "how was your day?" -> "fine")
-Need to be straightforward and direct when speaking to them
-Shy

English ed stereotype:
-Talkative (as in easy to have a conversation with)
-Open minded and actions (although sometimes bordering what people call 'slutty')
-Tend to comprehend complex english - like sacarsm, poem hidden meanings, etc
-Okay with using curse words more frequently than their CE counterpart (girls)

Also, I notice that in a situation where a guy who likes a chinese-ed girl confesses to her, but she doesn't like him back, the girl will then tend to try to avoid and ignore that guy as much as possible. In the case of an english-ed girl, the guy and her would most likely just remain friends even if she doesn't share his feelings. Chinese-ed girls also would not be caught dead walking as a pair, side-by-side with another guy unless they are official already (bf-gf) while english-ed girls seem to be okay walking like that with their normal guy friends and classmates

It's even more difficult when you're trying to "cross-attract", like english-ed guy going for chinese-ed girl and vice versa. English-ed guy would probably be too talkative for the chinese-ed girl and the chinese ed guy would probably be too boring for the english-ed girl.

Before somebody starts flaming or shouting troll (hopefully not), remember I'm talking about stereotypes, hard-core. I'm not talking about those 'diluted' chinese ed or english ed who have mixed with the other type until the point where they have become 'less chinese ed' or 'less english ed'

So what does a guy got to do to attract a girl of the opposite education medium? Like how can an english-ed guy try to get a chinese-ed girl when she doesn't really talk that much and is not that responsive (see short response under chinese-ed stereotype above)?

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