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TSn000b
post Mar 31 2008, 06:15 PM, updated 18y ago

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I don't know about you guys, but I've read and been following the topic of Chinese ed vs English ed gfand have found it very interesting. Then there was another topic back awhile ago about whether language was a barrier between the mediums, etc etc but I can't remember the links (neither did I bookmark them)

To summarize...

Chinese ed stereotype:
-Quiet (and usually studious)
-Not much to say to guys outside the topic of studies or other mundane stuff and very short responses (ie, "how was your day?" -> "fine")
-Need to be straightforward and direct when speaking to them
-Shy

English ed stereotype:
-Talkative (as in easy to have a conversation with)
-Open minded and actions (although sometimes bordering what people call 'slutty')
-Tend to comprehend complex english - like sacarsm, poem hidden meanings, etc
-Okay with using curse words more frequently than their CE counterpart (girls)

Also, I notice that in a situation where a guy who likes a chinese-ed girl confesses to her, but she doesn't like him back, the girl will then tend to try to avoid and ignore that guy as much as possible. In the case of an english-ed girl, the guy and her would most likely just remain friends even if she doesn't share his feelings. Chinese-ed girls also would not be caught dead walking as a pair, side-by-side with another guy unless they are official already (bf-gf) while english-ed girls seem to be okay walking like that with their normal guy friends and classmates

It's even more difficult when you're trying to "cross-attract", like english-ed guy going for chinese-ed girl and vice versa. English-ed guy would probably be too talkative for the chinese-ed girl and the chinese ed guy would probably be too boring for the english-ed girl.

Before somebody starts flaming or shouting troll (hopefully not), remember I'm talking about stereotypes, hard-core. I'm not talking about those 'diluted' chinese ed or english ed who have mixed with the other type until the point where they have become 'less chinese ed' or 'less english ed'

So what does a guy got to do to attract a girl of the opposite education medium? Like how can an english-ed guy try to get a chinese-ed girl when she doesn't really talk that much and is not that responsive (see short response under chinese-ed stereotype above)?

Note/disclaimer:
When somebody starts a topic like this in Cupid's Corner, they are ""new"" to the forum for obvious reasons brows.gif

This post has been edited by n000b: Mar 31 2008, 06:16 PM
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post Mar 31 2008, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Mar 31 2008, 07:32 PM)
So who the hell are you really? tongue.gif
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If I told you then I would have to kill you blush.gif
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post Apr 2 2008, 04:16 PM

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Thanks for all the replies.

QUOTE(Baronic @ Mar 31 2008, 10:45 PM)
to the TS, its obvious u are the latter, u are the english ed, chasing a chinese ed.
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WAH!!!! How did you know? Nevertheless, congratulations, rclxms.gif you're a good mind reader and/or stalker (j/k)

QUOTE(Baronic @ Mar 31 2008, 10:45 PM)
Before u go ahead on this, consider what you're getting yourself into. Can u spend the rest of your life with this girl? There IS a huge difference, as chinese ed girls tend to be much much more naive as well, a huge turn off for english ed guys. SOME, not all, go so far as to be shallow minded.

That said and done however, i believe i CAN advise u, since i've gone down this path before. (i regretted, but your ending may differ)

Firstly, chinese ed girls are much easier to please, they like guys who they can share secrets with, talk to easily, and talk to often! Thats the starting path to wind your way to their heart. Surprisingly, cliche expressions of love like flowers seem to do the trick as well.

Try to be more romantic, even if its cliche, like, suddenly calling to say u miss the person, so decided to drop by. say it jokingly. (usually doesnt work on english ed since they begin to feel stalked, while chinese ed tends to feel touched. stereotyping here)

control your foul language. its a bigger turn off for chinese ed girls compared to english ed.

Chinese ed girls also tend to be more easily swayed by material gifts compared to english ed. huge stereotyping here, they may deny it all they want, but everyone likes gifts. english ed will accept it with a note of thanks. chinese ed tends to flush and swoon a lil.

maybe i shud dedicate my blog to relationship advice lol
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Sounds like quite some advice. Personally, I find chinese-eds are quite difficult to talk to not because of any language barrier, but because their responses being very brief and 'conversation-stopping' in nature like I mentioned in my first post. Let's say a question like "'how was lunch (food)?'", the reply would most of the time be "'fine'"... they don't continue with "how was your's?" or "the food was really good, we should go again" or anything which allows extension of a chat without the use of another question.

Another thing is the part where most actions need to be accompanied with a reason statement, preferably given beforehand... I've heard that chinese-eds in general seem to have a need to know the reason behind things and most of the chinese-ed guys and girls I know are really like that. With questions like "why this... why that", one has to directly point out what they are doing like "I'm accompanying you while you finish your homework" or "...because I love you" or etc etc. The toughest would be answering the "why" question after you suddenly give her stuff like flowers, out of the blue, on a normal day. Shouldn't these actions, romantic or daily life, already be quite obvious?? shocking.gif ...maybe they do know but are just testing the guy, who knows? rolleyes.gif

I couldn't agree more with your statement on foul language though.


QUOTE(Noobimus @ Apr 1 2008, 12:24 AM)
TS.

It should be Oriental (usually Chinese) influence vs. Western (usually English) influence.

Anyone can take any education they want to. It is their choice of languange that makes all the differences. I can speak Chinese, but due to my extreme influence of the West (i.e. the common stereotype: banana [white in the inside, yellow on the outside]), my Chinese native flow of typical social conversation sucks (extremely WEAK CHINESE LANGUAGE PUNCHLINES) because my mind is thinking in English (due to the Western chosen way of life).

There are girls here who said they do not agree how they are stereotyped just because they have education from both English and Chinese. But which language is the one that dominates your preference and your true personality? You speak Chinese, but are you thinking in English in the inside? You speak English, but are you thinking in Chinese? These questions actually explains a lot. Are you really speaking your mind, or are you simply translating your words into another one, not realizing that translations can sound so cheesy? <----- (Most Chinese/Oriental people cannot find a proper Chinese/or commonly spoken Cantonese translation for this word, because trust me, it is not commonly used. They just nod heads and say emm, emm.)

And even if you're thinking and speaking in English, are you feeling that you want to be more of a Chinese? (Hence taking Chinese class because scared of people calling you banana) And if you're thinking and speaking in Chinese, are you sad that you're not good in the lingua franca?

Or maybe both stereotypes can be generalized simply as this:

Chinese/Oriental influence/way of life: Watches Chinese dramas like you know, like the ones in WLT from Astro.

English/Western influence/way of life: Watches English dramas like Heroes, House M.D, and many more.

If any of you can weigh the qualities and values from both I.Q and E.Q from thoese two types of movies, then you'll get the summary of what a Chinese influenced girl is like and what an English influenced girl is like.

Oh yeah and btw. I'll tell you one bigger truth.

Chinese/Oriental influenced people don't hug regularly = Not so open minded-like culture. (Majority, not all, so please f**k off)

English/Western influenced people = Need me say more? We Asians practised open minded-ness from the West. Hollywood mar. You don't understand English also you go and watch lar D I U.

Perhaps there's one more stereotype between the Chinese and the English influenced/educated.

Those who (Majority) are in Science Stream will know which language they belong to and so are the ones from Art Stream.

It's too obvious. I find more Chinese speaking/influenced ones in Arts Stream. And what does that tell you? Another common stereotype.

So unless a guy can manage to pull off the best of both worlds (which is few, because people always choose to have only one), he's on his own.

Phew. I like asking this question to the Chinese when they call me a banana: "If you are so Chinese, why do you have English names?"

So my conclusion:

Chinese educated/influenced = Not open minded. If if they are, it's not enough.

English educated/influenced = Usually open minded due to exposure and usually due to Hollywood and America (The UN speaks English too).

These conclusion apply to both guys and girls by the way. So if you're a guy going after either a Chinese or English educated/influenced girl, you better be prepared to kick off some of your habits that comes from your way of upbringing (English or Chinese upbringing brings a hell lot of difference). Subsitute Johnny Depp for Wang Li Hom and Destiny's Child for S.H.E. (or vice versa).
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Yea, you're right, that's exactly the point I was trying to make. I see many people bringing up the topic of languages and communication barriers in a chinese ed vs english ed gf/bf topic... that is not the correct 'definition' of chinese vs english ed. The REAL topic theme, which you were just talking about above, is their mentality, influence, the way of life and approach to doing actions (examples such as chinese ed girls usually unable accept a guy literally touching, includes kissing and hugging, them - even if you were their bf already, you would have to be together really close and for a long time to kiss or hug them and english eds being more tolerant of vulgarities, probably because they use curse words themselves and as frequently icon_idea.gif )

This post has been edited by n000b: Apr 2 2008, 04:22 PM

 

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