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post Apr 8 2008, 12:37 AM

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Guys,what is the requirement to enter BVC if I have an External LLB University of London law degree ?


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post Apr 8 2008, 12:46 AM

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My memories a bit sketchy...

first u have apply to anyone of the Uni's offering BVC

than apply to an INN's of Court.

fingers crossed and hope for the best, wait for offer letter.

BVC requirements
recognize british law degree
minimum 2:1 (some may allow 2:2)
accepted by an INN
have the requisite "core" subjects
seats r limited so apply early.
mature student (master higher chance of acceptance)

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post Apr 8 2008, 08:07 AM

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Can u tell me which UNI offering BVC? how to apply ? Can tell me whats your degree class and LLB internal or external?
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Apr 8 2008, 08:07 AM)
Can u tell me which UNI offering BVC? how to apply ? Can tell me whats your degree class and LLB internal or external?
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again using my very sketchy memory...

BVC is offered in...

Cardiff Univeristy
Univeristy West of England
Northumbria
London (a Few but i do not know the name)

So far the above r the popular ones.

Hahah.. i have honours for my LLB thats quite sufficient for your info.

LLB ...Cardiff

Don't know what u meant by Int or ext .
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post Apr 8 2008, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Apr 8 2008, 01:00 PM)
Don't know what u meant by Int or ext .
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If I'm not mistaken, external refers to a course taken outside the uni (i.e. conducted by a 3rd party institution) but degree issued by the uni.

Internal is when you study at the uni itself.

When you did your LLB, what is the requirement to get Honours?
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post Apr 8 2008, 01:59 PM

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Just wanted to say that this is a good thread. Great job Aurora for staring this. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 8 2008, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Apr 8 2008, 01:48 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, external refers to a course taken outside the uni (i.e. conducted by a 3rd party institution) but degree issued by the uni.

Internal is when you study at the uni itself.

When you did your LLB, what is the requirement to get Honours?
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External i might mistaken it as Ldn External.

Internal i might mistake it for local University.

My LLB is from Cardiff University, yr forgot.

Requirement to get Honours is at least 2nd class lower or was it 3rd?

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Added on April 8, 2008, 7:26 pm
QUOTE(wornbook @ Apr 8 2008, 01:59 PM)
Just wanted to say that this is a good thread. Great job Aurora for staring this.  rclxms.gif
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just helping out, but in the end of the tunnel....

Maybe one day... can form a small association instead of always being controlled by the BAR Counsel, higher institution of learning that monopolize the legal market or being kicked around like football by Law firms.

No one gets left out or left behind for once.

Besides the point...

I will add on to the list chambering/attachment opportunities are available at...

Khaw & Partners (KL)
SC Lim & Partners (USJ)
Lee Ong and Kandiah (KL)
ZUL RAFIQUE & PARTNERS (KL)

Some I might be able to comment/suggestions since I had some short stints there, others are where my friends are currently attached or chambering there.

Feel free to comment and add on to the list!




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post Apr 9 2008, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Apr 8 2008, 02:22 PM)

Added on April 8, 2008, 7:26 pm

Maybe one day... can form a small association instead of always being controlled by the BAR Counsel, higher institution of learning that monopolize the legal market or being kicked around like football by Law firms.

No one gets left out or left behind for once.
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I've not kept abreast of the legal profession in recent years. Your comment above suggests that some things are not right with the state of the legal profession now. Can elaborate? Is there a monopoly going on that makes some people left out?
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post Apr 9 2008, 05:23 PM

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I'm planning to have an attachment while I'm studying my degree LLB external in Brickfields. I got no problem with attachment since I will study part time and working for my dad's firm. But, how am I going to convince to my dad that this is what I want , to get ahead and gain more experience in the young age rather than being a 'fresh graduate'.
I have received a lot of advises from the elder ones , they agreed and impressed with my goals and philosophy of life ( mostly influenced by them if not I'm still with my gadgets and Dota) . So I'm in the age of 18 , going for law degree Intermediate in next few months more after my A-levels.

I feel that its the only way to become competitive and step ahead than your peers , take good chance and get well equipped.


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QUOTE(jchong @ Apr 9 2008, 09:38 AM)
I've not kept abreast of the legal profession in recent years. Your comment above suggests that some things are not right with the state of the legal profession now. Can elaborate? Is there a monopoly going on that makes some people left out?
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haha... never mind friend, this topic is to help future lawyers not scare them off. Will set up another topic somewhere else, of course no profession is perfect...

anyway i was day dreaming, its just something to rant about.

Overall its fine.
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post Apr 9 2008, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Apr 9 2008, 05:23 PM)
I'm planning to have an attachment while I'm studying my degree LLB external in Brickfields. I got no problem with attachment since I will study part time and working for my dad's firm. But, how am I going to convince to my dad that this is what I want , to get ahead and gain more experience in the young age rather than being a 'fresh graduate'.
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What is the issue that you need to convince your dad about? If you wanna do attachment while studying and you can cope I'm sure your dad would understand and appreciate your initiative.
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post Apr 9 2008, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Apr 9 2008, 05:31 PM)
haha... never mind friend, this topic is to help future lawyers not scare them off. Will set up another topic somewhere else, of course no profession is perfect...

anyway i was day dreaming, its just something to rant about.

Overall its fine.
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Yes, no profession is perfect. I think it is good for students or graduates to have a true and honest perspective of what they're getting into so that they know what to expect.

People always imagine lawyers to have a glamourous life (too much American TV?) but the reality can be different. In law school I had no idea what life as a lawyer was like. So to help others I've always thought of doing a lecture for final year law students about life as a lawyer (challenges/benefits) and what skills it takes to be a good one.
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post Apr 10 2008, 12:34 AM

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this thread is really cool. looks like i've found an "information counter" to ask stuff regarding law! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Apr 8 2008, 08:07 AM)
Can u tell me which UNI offering BVC? how to apply ? Can tell me whats your degree class and LLB internal or external?
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all application for BVC is made through online, www.bvconline.co.uk

Good institutions for BVC will be:

Inns of Court School Of Law (City Law School)
College of Law
BPP Law School
Manchester University
Cardiff Law School

My suggestions before you apply for BVC:

1)apply for inns, extra point will be given to student who are already admitted to the inns or accepted for admission.
2) Work experience, or any BAR related experience will be good for you
3) Get a GREAT reference from your tutor/lecturer!!
4) Choose your institution wisely.

As long as u pass your LLB with 2.2, you'll have pretty decent chance to be admitted to any of the BVC institutions. However, please be reminded that places are limited, there will be some stiff competitions.

Good luck!


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QUOTE(2kia @ Apr 10 2008, 12:34 AM)
this thread is really cool. looks like i've found an "information counter" to ask stuff regarding law!  biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2008, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(nikyas @ Apr 10 2008, 05:14 AM)
all application for BVC is made through online, www.bvconline.co.uk

Good institutions for BVC will be:

Inns of Court School Of Law (City Law School)
College of Law
BPP Law School
Manchester University
Cardiff Law School

My suggestions before you apply for BVC:

1)apply for inns, extra point will be given to student who are already admitted to the inns or accepted for admission.
2) Work experience, or any BAR related experience will be good for you
3) Get a GREAT reference from your tutor/lecturer!!
4) Choose your institution wisely.

As long as u pass your LLB with 2.2, you'll have pretty decent chance to be admitted to any of the BVC institutions. However, please be reminded that places are limited, there will be some stiff competitions.

Good luck!
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Thanks a lot .
Does BVC recognize LLB external degree? I'm worried 2.2 external degree don't get a chance to study BVC ....as 2.1 is super hard to get because external is tougher than internal.

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post Apr 13 2008, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Apr 13 2008, 04:17 PM)
Thanks a lot .
Does BVC recognize LLB external degree? I'm worried 2.2 external degree don't get a chance to study BVC ....as 2.1 is super hard to get because external is tougher than internal.
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Yes they do, I have friends from ATC Kemayan in my course currently. Didn't really asked their LLb results though but UOL externals are indeed recognised. smile.gif Anyway I think these type of questions should be asked in the education section as this topic here is more pertaining towards a legal career.


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post Apr 13 2008, 07:48 PM

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post Apr 13 2008, 07:49 PM

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FYI , manchester university does not have BVC. The one offering is Manchester Metropolitan University (previously Manchester Polytechnic). Are you sure external is that hard? My uncle told me UoL external is very easy thats why many people are taking it.
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QUOTE(linkeong @ Apr 13 2008, 07:49 PM)
FYI , manchester university does not have BVC. The one offering is Manchester Metropolitan University (previously Manchester Polytechnic). Are you sure external is that hard? My uncle told me UoL external is very easy thats why many people are taking it.
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Well from what i gather from friends who take UOL it is hard, I have not done it so I do not know much. (hahah.. hearsaylah)

Generally speaking, to do any external subjects you need lecturers whom are well experience, veterans and ample facility to support such studies. Otherwise, its probably a sitting duck scenario and you might not know what the hoots your doing with your law degree.

Gd luck to those who wish to UOL external

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