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post Mar 29 2008, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Mar 29 2008, 06:05 PM)
Got a questions to those who are accomplished traders.

Is it wise or better to declare your trading profits as personal income or register a business and file it as company tax?

With personal tax, cannot get much deductions and need to pay more tax. Where as for business, can whack a lot of things in expenses to reduce tax  smile.gif

Can we register our company as share trading and others?  brows.gif
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Dude,
Capital gain (includingin stock market) is tax exempted in Malaysia. No difference as individual or businesses.

But for US, capital gain will be taxed at 15%, if not mistaken. That's why tax is also part of considering when selling a share in US. As long as you don't sell the share, on paper gain, it won't be taxed. But once you sold it, it is taxed on your profit made.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 29 2008, 06:30 PM)
Dude,
Capital gain (includingin stock market) is tax exempted in Malaysia. No difference as individual or businesses.

But for US, capital gain will be taxed at 15%, if not mistaken. That's why tax is also part of considering when selling a share in US. As long as you don't sell the share, on paper gain, it won't be taxed. But once you sold it, it is taxed on your profit made.
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So, sales profit no need to declare kah?
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post Mar 29 2008, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Mar 29 2008, 07:31 PM)
So, sales profit no need to declare kah?
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Yes, I think that is what he meant.
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post Mar 29 2008, 08:49 PM

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If I don't use intraday trading facility, can I still buy and sell on the same day? Any restriction from T+3 perspective?
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post Mar 30 2008, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 29 2008, 03:54 PM)
wah you just main tembak only. From the FAQ it states that;

"Committed Uncleared Purchase or CUP
Where there is cash or available margin in the account at the time of placing the purchase order, the said order can be tagged as 'CUP' trade. This cash or margin amount will be locked for this 'CUP' trade for settlement."
"Direct Uncleared Purchase or DUP
When the said funds are available at the time of placing the purchase order, the order will be classified as a 'DUP' trade. "
Not really sure but I can guess maybe if you have margin, it will deduct the margin when you make a CUP trade. Where as in DUP, it will deduct the cash available from your account. In other words, you can't make purchases beyond your margin of trading. Best if you ask them directly to be honest.
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cup in maybank2u means they lock your cash for the purchase. if you have margin and insufficient cash, you cannot buy cup
dup is that you use margin account to buy. you are allowed to buy even when you have insufficient cash (subjected to your available margin). however when t+3 and you do not bank in the money, the bank will force sell your purchase.

in short , just buy cup and you can sleep in peace without bothering about top up .
dup is if you wan to hit and run in 3 days, you can buy many times more than your cash (your shares with maybank also adds to your margin)
you can buy 100k worth of shares even if you have only 10k cash plus you have many valuable shares bought with maybank.


Added on March 30, 2008, 12:30 am
QUOTE(dsugums @ Mar 29 2008, 09:25 AM)
Ehh, how come the online trading is active now (both Maybank and HLB)?

Market is down by -228.04  ohmy.gif

Is certain counters allowed to trade on weekends?  hmm.gif
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i saw that too today(maybank2u). scared the hell out of me. call back malaysia to check what happened. ( thought a war broke out in kl)
then i remember it happened before. doh.gif



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post Mar 30 2008, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(okk @ Mar 29 2008, 08:49 PM)
If I don't use intraday trading facility, can I still buy and sell on the same day? Any restriction from T+3 perspective?
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If u didn't use intraday trading, then those transactions is considered as normal trading.
Just follow as normal brokerage fee of 0.42%(maybe varied depend on traders) instead of 0.10%.
I think T+3 perspective is applied to normal trading rules. Not for intraday purposes.

If got contra losses, then it will deduct from your trading account else you will need to top-up to cover the losses.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Mar 29 2008, 12:06 PM)
flip thru newspaper
knowing that HARTALEGA is a hand glove maker/manufaturer huh
i doubt it would perform well, look at TOPGLOV (price falling from 6.40 to 4.00)

anyway, it will be listing in BURSA on 17th-Apr
IPO price RM 1.80

p/s: the name itself doesn't sound "ong" to me
difficult to pronounce either  sweat.gif
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I still looking thru their IPO details.

Their P/E looks kind of high to me compared to others Glove Makers like Kossan, Supermax .. TopGloves

But they do have their own attractions.


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post Mar 30 2008, 03:01 PM

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hey guys... im looking for online material or ebook which have a good description on wat share prices and volume are all about..
any recommend? 10s....
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There are several other favorable trends for stocks, like prices rising during options expirations week and at the end of each month and quarter.


What does it mean by options expiration ?
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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Mar 30 2008, 05:59 PM)
What does it mean by options expiration ?
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It just like futures, when the futures/option expired, you need to clear your old position (long or shot, call or put) and start the new one if you wish to continue.

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QUOTE(aretla @ Mar 30 2008, 03:01 PM)
hey guys... im looking for online material or ebook which have a good description on wat share prices and volume are all about..
any recommend? 10s....
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Try this link in our link thread. A lot of useful articles and guides.

http://www.investopedia.com/university/buildingblocks.asp

And for others looking for materials to read, try the link thread in this forum, there a lot of links there and would help a lot if many have links to contribute.
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I've a question regarding the Bursa System.

Say if we order a buy at 3.10, however, there's a seller sells at 3.06. Will Bursa System match it for us?

Say if we order a sell at 3.10, however, there's a buyer buys at 3.16. Will Bursa System match it for us?

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Mar 30 2008, 07:02 PM)
I've a question regarding the Bursa System.

Say if we order a buy at 3.10, however, there's a seller sells at 3.06. Will Bursa System match it for us?

Say if we order a sell at 3.10, however, there's a buyer buys at 3.16. Will Bursa System match it for us?
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As far as I know, the system will always buy at lowest and sell at highest.
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Mar 30 2008, 07:02 PM)
I've a question regarding the Bursa System.

Say if we order a buy at 3.10, however, there's a seller sells at 3.06. Will Bursa System match it for us?

Say if we order a sell at 3.10, however, there's a buyer buys at 3.16. Will Bursa System match it for us?
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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 30 2008, 08:37 PM)
As far as I know, the system will always buy at lowest and sell at highest.
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dont get it.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Mar 30 2008, 07:02 PM)
I've a question regarding the Bursa System.

1) Say if we order a buy at 3.10, however, there's a seller sells at 3.06. Will Bursa System match it for us?

2) Say if we order a sell at 3.10, however, there's a buyer buys at 3.16. Will Bursa System match it for us?
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as far as i know,

No for question one,

Yes for question two.

correct me if i am wrong.
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i checked and found that kps wong yien kim dispose kps share even at rm1 for 1,000,000 shares on 21st march 2008
any reason to be alarmed? he's been selling and selling starting 27 september 2007 ( 18 september 2007 - appointed to executive director)

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 30 2008, 08:37 PM)
As far as I know, the system will always buy at lowest and sell at highest.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Mar 30 2008, 10:04 PM)
as far as i know,
No for question one,
Yes for question two.
correct me if i am wrong.
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this is bercanggah wo.. so which one correct?

i tot only the buy and sell price exactly matched only can trade?
if not.. then wat to do with the differ amount???
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is anyone watching at MAHSING?

property shares affected the most after GE, MAHSING price dropped almost 30% from previous high.

last friday MAHSING closed at 1.39

short term TP to sell : 1.40 - 1.60 - 1.80 rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Mar 30 2008, 10:24 PM)
is anyone watching at MAHSING?

property shares affected the most after GE, MAHSING price dropped almost 30% from previous high.

last friday MAHSING closed at 1.39

short term TP to sell : 1.40 - 1.60 - 1.80 rolleyes.gif
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yeah yeah!! me me!!
i considering to buy some 2mr.. but havnt decide the buying price yet..
u alr bought???
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Mar 30 2008, 10:24 PM)
is anyone watching at MAHSING?

property shares affected the most after GE, MAHSING price dropped almost 30% from previous high.

last friday MAHSING closed at 1.39

short term TP to sell : 1.40 - 1.60 - 1.80 rolleyes.gif
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I am watching. Already go in at 1.34 smile.gif


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