Is Warrior Useful ? in which way? my hunter hit lvl 70 already just want to reroll a new charather.

Main tanking, off tanking, dps.

dps? can warrior dps higher than any hunter ?

Not sure about warriors, but top dps in end game raids tend to be warlocks, rogues and hunters.

Good to average dps I think. But they help with being able to provide battle, demo or commanding shout to his group. Not necessary but is nice to have these imo

Blood Frenzy..

the only thing thats stopping a warrior from pawning everyone on the dps charts is the tanks threat.

yes..warriors do incredible dps on fights where threat is not an issue.

dont roll warrior if you want to be in dpsing squad play rogue and trust me when i say this YOU WOUNT BE ABLE TO RAID AS DPS WAR

This post has been edited by Jas2davir: Mar 6 2008, 11:42 AM

I call bullshit on this...

End game raid dps is all about melee dps. Our group consisting of 2 rogues, enhancement shaman, 17/44 fury warrior (me) and 33/18 MS warrior (sometimes feral dr00d if he's not in tank group). We're very dependant on group setup but even though i'm not in full top end dps gear, i'm already pushing 1400-1500dps on some boss fights. We recently lost a uber geared rogue who used to consistently top dps charts whom i really had a hard time beating but atm we tend to take turns topping dps meters in BT/MH. MM and Survival hunters aren't competitive in DPS but BM hunters seem to do amazing damage in our raids. Warlocks ofc are great but the rest of the dps classes just pale in comparison.

So yeah, you can raid as dps.. you just have to work a lot harder to prove yourself

edit: threat is not an issue in raids where you have warriors (not me.. yet) pushing 2500dps on gorefiend. BoS and Imp zerker stance means i'm rarely at the threat ceiling.

This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Mar 6 2008, 04:38 PM

Lead 5 mans. Not that hard what.

Wow, a dota player who plays a hunter and tries to roll a DPS war.

Am i stereotyping anyone?



This post has been edited by Goblinsk8er: Mar 6 2008, 05:53 PM

LULWAT

/FACEPALM

That is so so wrong. I will admit, many guilds/people used to ignore DPS warriors last time, i was one of them. But now that my guild has taken a chance and included a DPS war in our raids, i really can see the difference. Rogue +dps war + enchance shammy = pawn

This post has been edited by orangbulu: Mar 6 2008, 09:59 PM

Yea man!!!

Toss in a feral druid for LOTP! Even more GG

clearly a l2troll issue!

Erm Warlock can also be top dps? i just roll a warlock last night quite nice though. i don't like rogue. kind lazy to go near mob. cause i use to play Hunter =.= so u know human sense right? so warlock what the best of it?

So you don't want to melee dps but you want to roll a warrior?
My advice is to stick with your hunter. Read the hunter forums and learn as much as you can. Watch videos and learn how to chain trap, jump shot etc.
And get an auto-shot timer so you can learn how to weave your shots. I use ZHunter Mod which you can get at http://wow.curse.com/downloads/addons/

Seriouslly, warlocks (destruction only) are the only caster class that can keep up with melee dps end game, assuming melee ppl know what they are doing, and the fight does not favor melee or caster. But the difference between caster and melee is not that huge la, as WOW is one of the most balanced MMO out there. But you must also consider the extra cc and buffs that casters bring to the raid, and not all fights are melee friendly.

This post has been edited by orangbulu: Mar 7 2008, 01:32 PM

Now I starting to life warlock. i just get my fear skill and anotogoly skill xD wooT lvl 8 now No time play though for now. busy with my relationship T__T when think of my relationship break down go downstair and sigh~~~ T_T"

ok im back finnaly internet working....
btw based on my exp i never get accepted into raids as dps warrior......even with/with out gear or 5mans unless your friends are running the raid then a whole new story and yes i am a prot warrior......but i still think if you wanna roll mele dps dont be warrior....low chances to raid....srsly...

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Added on March 9, 2008, 1:13 amand if im going to reroll i would try being a healer instead of dps i oso wanna see whats all the fuss/complains about....

This post has been edited by Jas2davir: Mar 9 2008, 01:13 AM

I quite enjoy healing, but being a healer is a thankless job. If a boss goes down, dps will pat themselves on the back about their 1337 pew pewin', but hardly any thanks goes to the healer that had to heal through the fire/poison/void zone/rick roll video that dps were too retarded to move out of.

touche thats y i wanna go see whats it like screaming at dpsers

Its like saying all girls are bad cause of one failed relationship... is that true?

Be a tank, u get to scream at everyone. Including urself.

It's all the tanks fault! Hee hee...just kidding.

When it comes to raiding, don't think that you gear up only through raids. Because if you're getting into a progressive raiding guild, they will not take you.

Why?

• It does not how initiative in getting ready for the raid if you do not have gears from Badge Rewards, Heroics or PVP. The argument that PVP gear doesn't have enough hit rating doesn't mean that you can't use 1-2 pieces of PVP gear, which are some of the best in-game. With badge and heroic rewards, those are within your reach so gear up with those gear pronto. There's really no excuses and if you have to pug, pug it. Not every heroic pug is a bad pug.
• The other thing about having good gear from Badges, Heroics and PVP is that it shows that you know how to keep yourself occupied outside of raid times. The guild isn't there to always "hold your hand" when it comes to having to help you 24/7.
• Another good things about pug is that you may get lucky by pugging with the potential guild you're planning to apply. But provided you know how to play well. If you don't know how to play well, you will not get an edge over the rest of the competition.
• Show good knowledge about your character in your application. Short answers like "I press the key spells/attack moves that are for rogues" doesn't show that your abilities will shine.
• Take whatever Jas says with a pinch of salt. I swear his the most negative person on this forum because of his experience. That is his experience, not the rest of us.

Roll a druid lo, damn senang job.

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i seriously wouldnt consider pvp gear at all if i have the pve option. i currently only wear my s3 helm as the ONLY pvp gear because i got no alternatives (i could actually buy the heroic helm, but im saving for t5-6 level sunwell version instead )

wasted resil/stam points are much better spent on pve stats. and hell, you also said urself, gearing up is ez, heroics, badges, ez mode pug kara/ZA. really not a lot of reason/excuses to wear pvp in pve, or the lack of gear having greens etc(or blues for that matter, though some blues does have its goods, especially trinket slots, such as the abacus for rogues).

=edit=
oops, i missed out my s3 weapons for my pve set
but meh i dont have t6 level weapons and heroics/badges offers shit weapon upgrade lulz

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Added on March 10, 2008, 10:33 amno reason to not be geared. BC is ezmode epics.

and honestly speaking, unless your guild can man 5mans for EVERYONE (for every class too), or premade BG all the time, i dont see the possibly of no pugs. maybe your guild is really awesome at have the perfect 5x5 25man classes (lol 5 tanks in 25man raid) but seriously, since i dont know your progression, i will go as far as saying your guild is retarded.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 10 2008, 10:43 AM

Candlejack/Jas : I've a Level 30 warrior. Pet project put aside to get epic flight form for my Lvl 70 feral druid. It started out to see how the different warrior builds would be like at lvl 70 as well as getting to know how to handle a warrior.

The openings for recruiting a DPS warrior is competitive. But once you're known on the pug circuit that you're good at dishing out the neccesary DPS, it's easier to get into a raiding guild. Unfortunately, the warrior class is very gear based so you have to do a lot of gearing up.

But DPS warriors bring added raid buffs to the melee group. Unfortunately, in 25-mans, there's probably only one group for melee only i.e. 4-5 ppl max. DPS warriors in the tanking group also helps the Prot Warrior to manage his rage better by taking over some of the debuff/buff duties.

If your guild bans pugging, it sounds like there is an issue with lack of players online to even form guild runs. The best way to attract good players is to do pugs, see how they perform and if they're good, throw them an invite into the guild. Seems like a waste opportunity to not pug heroics now and again. You never know when you'll see a better player out there with different ways of doing things or different strategies. Plus to brush up on your skills.

froz3nnoob : Don't get too discouraged. It's good to try out different classes. You can understand their roles better in party / raid mode. Opportunities are not easy to come back but that doesn't mean that one should get dissapointed when you hit the first few stumbling blocks.

Quaz : some of the pvp stuff could be easier to reach due to the RNG in instances. Also some of the weapons are best in-game outside of Hyjal/BT. Some pieces are good for PVE, like the Medallion of Alliance for Winterchill. And yes, I'm edging u on.

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Added on March 10, 2008, 7:53 pmThe nerf is coming.


This post has been edited by myremi: Mar 10 2008, 07:53 PM

Circle of healing.

armor wise theres always alternatives. weapon wise just f***en kill kael/vashj or friggin do BT/HJ, much better than the pvp counterparts. trinket wise, like seriously, if a 2min cooldown cc breaking trinket can make or break an encounter for a guild, imo its the guild's problem. sure, it helps, but i honestly dont believe a 2min cc breaking trinket can make or break this encounter
http://www.wowwiki.com/Rage_Winterchill_(tactics)
i mean, hell, it didnt say OMG YOU MUST WEAR PVP TRINKET.
say max frostbolt is 5k dmg, + full dot. its 15k dmg. trick is to have 10k hp and healers heal 5k and you got 2 sec window to heal it too aka flash of light/flash heals/swiftmend/lesser heal wave.


go l2pve or something. gosh.

From that Wiki page : It is strongly recommended that all players (with the possible exception of the mages who can blink out of the Ice Tomb) equip the Level 70 PvP trinket in order to survive.

Calm down. You're becoming like a ruffled chicken.

And until the day arrives when Blizz will completely segregate PVP and PVE, I'm planning to make full use of PVP gear as well.

Actually, the pvp trinket does make or break the archimonde encounter since we can't really have a tremor totem in every group for fears+doomfires.

oh noes 5 shamans notsoez.

seriously, who doesnt love bloodlust. put all the 5 shamans together for PERMA bloodlust = mega win sauce imo!

no... what you want is to swap 5 totem twisting enhancement shamans for perma bloodlust/heroism in teh melee group=supermegawinsauce

Actually.. correction on pvp trinket being essential for teh fight.. seems prevalent strategy here is to use the stump -.-

glad you still realize that abusing game mecha- i mean err, creative use of in game terrain, is better than a shitty 2 min cooldown cc break pvp trinket.

Back then before Archimonde's nerf like ages ago - before Sept'07, a single mistake or bad luck causes a wipe as a single soul charge he releases WILL kill someone and create a chain effect. Thus the pvp trinket helped a bunch.

However post nerf, he has been pretty much chicken feet. You can have people dieing left right centre and still kill him with less than 20 raid members. Archimonde is pretty much a boss where you understand that 'staying alive is more important than doing 0 dps' if you were a dpser, and that would create less strain for the healer who will be focused on healing the mt and topping up hps of people getting grips and not decursed fast enough. Oh, did I also mention people who dont know to time their air burst? That was the highest reason which causes a wipe, somewhere close to members who do not know how to move away from doomfires. So, as you can see, pvp trinket might help but not even necessary nowadays.

or go RP and send 25 night elf wisps to him. gg.

Retard check fight pls. Use the fight to weed out downies in your raid. Archimonde fight really does help to improve some "slower" individual's playstyle or just plainly identifying the repeating offender incapability to grasp hold of a simple concept (permanent downie, has been carried this whole time).

I have few questions here...
1) I m planning to create Night Elf with Warrior.. What do you guys think???

2) In WOW, what makes your character different from others?? EG: In RO, we have agi knight, vit knight, etc-etc
But what i foound out in WOW is... We can buy skills ( means we can learn all the skills ) and our stat point is fixed..

3) what is raid?? XD


This post has been edited by siew14: Mar 11 2008, 10:37 PM

1) Slightly more avoidance in total but you lose from the racials.

2) Stat points are fix yes but you get a Talent Tree where you can play around with to get 2 types of DPS warrior and 1 Prot warrior builds. Builds are your distribution of talents points.

3) Raid = http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/raidgroups.html. Baca lah!

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Added on March 11, 2008, 11:57 pmActually, back to 1) The different races have different racials. I think it's somewhere on WoWWiki about Starting a Character and there's a link to the different racials out there. Also, size does matter e.g. gnomes are hard to target with a mouseclick in PVP matches since they are so small.



This post has been edited by myremi: Mar 11 2008, 11:57 PM

Roll orc female warrior. You won't regret it.

lol@ orc females
Their casting animation is so queer XD

roll a bloodelf paladin make shure it's a female with a cute name YOU REALLY wount regret it

1)What you mean of lose from the racials? Is the night elf suitable to become a hunter??
3) Raid is more like "MVP" Party in RO right??

The char is hot?? XD

This post has been edited by siew14: Mar 12 2008, 12:12 PM

1) http://www.wowwiki.com/Racial_trait . Different racials give different results. We just go for looks.

3) Never played RO , believe or not. Someone else have to answer that question.

Yup, something like that. Basically you group up with 9 or 24 other people then go and kill a boss monster.

Hmm, why most people dislike troll?

Bad posture. Thats why you should always stand up straight.

Female trolls rock though.

Troll's posture is the thing that makes them looks cool.
Especially, troll hunter's posture when they are shooting a bow.

That depends on the players on the server...

Some can give u a chance and let u try....while some could be a complete asshat

That may be so good sir.

BUT THEY'LL NEVER MODEL CHANNEL'S SPRING 2008 FASHION LINE.

NEVER!

Eh? What's that gotta do with WoW?

Nothing. Troll post, lulz.