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post Mar 5 2008, 08:26 PM

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till then ... PS3 is the cheapest BD player in the market smile.gif
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post Mar 5 2008, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(clngu @ Mar 5 2008, 08:26 PM)
till then ... PS3 is the cheapest BD player in the market  smile.gif
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That is true until the Cap Ayam blu-ray players from China hit the market.
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post Mar 5 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 5 2008, 09:19 PM)
That is true until the Cap Ayam blu-ray players from China hit the market.
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I wonder when will that be? hmm.gif
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post Mar 5 2008, 10:29 PM

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very soon

i bet 12 months
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post Mar 6 2008, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 5 2008, 10:29 PM)
very soon

i bet 12 months
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Who knows, maybe they're already on the way to Malaysia. laugh.gif
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post Mar 6 2008, 01:31 AM

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is the DVD upscalling quality better on the PS3 better compare to normal dvd player ?
what is the price for the PS3 now? if buy now will it be possible to modify later when ahem blue ray game out? brows.gif

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 6 2008, 01:03 AM)
Who knows, maybe they're already on the way to Malaysia.  laugh.gif
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cannot be so fast gua .... but early stage the price i pressume is 50% off some thing like 1k++

wont be like 200-300RM per player
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post Mar 7 2008, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(jimjim @ Mar 6 2008, 01:31 AM)
is the DVD upscalling quality better on the PS3 better compare to normal dvd player ?
what is the price for the PS3 now? if buy now will it be possible to modify later when ahem blue ray game out?  brows.gif
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Aiyo ...... why you always think of pirate games aje, buy a second hand one lah, here got many ppl selling original used games, the price is quite reasonable. A blank blu-ray disc is RM80 like dat, you think you're going to pay that amount for a pirate game? tongue.gif

QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 6 2008, 08:30 AM)
cannot be so fast gua .... but early stage the price i pressume is 50% off some thing like 1k++

wont be like 200-300RM per player
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If got also, the most Profile 1.0 player aje, Cap Ayam players normally are stripped down versions.
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post Mar 9 2008, 12:12 AM

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btw, can the ps3 play ahem dvd? brows.gif
curious, why ppl say PS3 has yet to be launch in malaysia? but we can already purchase it?

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post Mar 10 2008, 11:10 PM

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it worse than cheapo dvd players..

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/dvd-player-...ps3-fw-2.1.html

"Our cadence tests consist of very high detail test patterns. Some may call this a disadvantage for some players, but we've always used the same patterns for our tests, and we've seen a wide range of results regardless of price point. Nearly every player I test has no issues at all with some of the more basic tests, such as de-interlacing content with perfect 2-3 flags. Since even most inexpensive DVD players are flag based, this test is passed nearly 99% of the time.

The Sony PS3 continues to have extremely poor results in our SD DVD tests. The fact of the matter is, it just cannot lock onto a high resolution test pattern for any of our cadence tests. This is worse performance than we see with even sub-$50 players at your local big box store. One could argue that the player will probably do just fine with real world content since it probably doesn't have as high detail as our test patterns, but I think that argument would mainly come from those trying to justify their purchase. If I can get nearly every DVD player out there to pass these tests, why won't this one?

Like most game consoles, the PS3 is not what I would call a preferred video playback solution for standard DVDs. However, it is far and away one of the best Blu-ray players on the market today and an outstanding value for those looking to add HD support to their home theater system. But I would still recommend a higher quality stand alone DVD player for the more demanding home theater enthusiast."

QUOTE(jimjim @ Mar 6 2008, 01:31 AM)
is the DVD upscalling quality better on the PS3 better compare to normal dvd player ?
what is the price for the PS3 now? if buy now will it be possible to modify later when ahem blue ray game out?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(andyz @ Mar 10 2008, 11:10 PM)
it worse than cheapo dvd players.. 

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/dvd-player-...ps3-fw-2.1.html

"Our cadence tests consist of very high detail test patterns. Some may call this a disadvantage for some players, but we've always used the same patterns for our tests, and we've seen a wide range of results regardless of price point. Nearly every player I test has no issues at all with some of the more basic tests, such as de-interlacing content with perfect 2-3 flags. Since even most inexpensive DVD players are flag based, this test is passed nearly 99% of the time.

The Sony PS3 continues to have extremely poor results in our SD DVD tests. The fact of the matter is, it just cannot lock onto a high resolution test pattern for any of our cadence tests. This is worse performance than we see with even sub-$50 players at your local big box store. One could argue that the player will probably do just fine with real world content since it probably doesn't have as high detail as our test patterns, but I think that argument would mainly come from those trying to justify their purchase. If I can get nearly every DVD player out there to pass these tests, why won't this one?

Like most game consoles, the PS3 is not what I would call a preferred video playback solution for standard DVDs. However, it is far and away one of the best Blu-ray players on the market today and an outstanding value for those looking to add HD support to their home theater system. But I would still recommend a higher quality stand alone DVD player for the more demanding home theater enthusiast."
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IMO use the PS3 as Bluray player only lah... why want to use it for DVD. Play DVD too much will risk spoiling the lens then problem lor... cry.gif
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post Mar 11 2008, 10:30 AM

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all item have lifespand.... just use normal/hdmi player for dvd lah
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post Mar 11 2008, 10:42 AM

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the BD lense also got lifespan ger
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post Mar 11 2008, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(andyz @ Mar 10 2008, 11:10 PM)
it worse than cheapo dvd players.. 

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/dvd-player-...ps3-fw-2.1.html

"Our cadence tests consist of very high detail test patterns. Some may call this a disadvantage for some players, but we've always used the same patterns for our tests, and we've seen a wide range of results regardless of price point. Nearly every player I test has no issues at all with some of the more basic tests, such as de-interlacing content with perfect 2-3 flags. Since even most inexpensive DVD players are flag based, this test is passed nearly 99% of the time.

The Sony PS3 continues to have extremely poor results in our SD DVD tests. The fact of the matter is, it just cannot lock onto a high resolution test pattern for any of our cadence tests. This is worse performance than we see with even sub-$50 players at your local big box store. One could argue that the player will probably do just fine with real world content since it probably doesn't have as high detail as our test patterns, but I think that argument would mainly come from those trying to justify their purchase. If I can get nearly every DVD player out there to pass these tests, why won't this one?

Like most game consoles, the PS3 is not what I would call a preferred video playback solution for standard DVDs. However, it is far and away one of the best Blu-ray players on the market today and an outstanding value for those looking to add HD support to their home theater system. But I would still recommend a higher quality stand alone DVD player for the more demanding home theater enthusiast."
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they were refering to one of the test " cadence test"... don't think a normal lay person knows what is a cadence test also..
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post Mar 11 2008, 04:22 PM

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aris sifu

wat is tat ?
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post Mar 11 2008, 04:51 PM

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post Mar 11 2008, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Mar 11 2008, 04:22 PM)
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wat is tat ?
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2:3 pulldown flag, if you miss the flag (each interlaced movie should have proper flags to tell the player which frame to use to reconstruct back a progressive frame), then the deinterlacing goes wrong, you will see more deinterlacing artifacts.. i.e. like hair combing artifacts etc..

if you watching unker ho movies, I think most of the flags are wrong, unless they did a 1:1 transfer (say like ISO or NRG file) (highly unlikely since they would have to he houdini to fit 6-8GBs DVD9 into a single layer 4.7GB disc)


Added on March 11, 2008, 5:50 pmmany players usually fail this test (on difficult scenes on test DVDs), but most did not really show up as severe video artifacts in real world DVD watching experiences anyway..

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New Blu-ray 2.0 spec makes PS3 the most future-proof player

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080...oof-player.html

How about above statement?
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post Mar 11 2008, 07:00 PM

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I think shouldn't obsess to much about going profile 2.0..

the main movie of what ever profile we bought plays as advertised.. that's most important.. other 1.1/2 extra features are secondary..
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post Mar 11 2008, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 11 2008, 05:49 PM)
2:3 pulldown flag, if you miss the flag (each interlaced movie should have proper flags to tell the player which frame to use to reconstruct back a progressive frame), then the deinterlacing goes wrong, you will see more deinterlacing artifacts..  i.e. like hair combing artifacts etc..

if you watching unker ho movies, I think most of the flags are wrong, unless they did a 1:1 transfer (say like ISO or NRG file)  (highly unlikely since they would have to he houdini to fit 6-8GBs DVD9 into a single layer 4.7GB disc)


Added on March 11, 2008, 5:50 pmmany players usually fail this test (on difficult scenes on test DVDs), but most did not really show up as severe video artifacts in real world DVD watching experiences anyway..
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fuyooo..the 2:3pulldown thingie so important ger?? KENG wor sifu

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btw..how to test it on peasant sammy DVDP?

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