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redeye84
post Mar 16 2008, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Mar 15 2008, 07:55 PM)
Christina's character was indeed a bit wasted but for me that doesn't matter since the focus of the show is on Al.

Bernie did find his identity towards the end. From a rookie pilot who had near-zero confidence and psychologically rejected from his team, he realised his role in life - fighting for peace, being a good role model, and protecting the one he cared the most.

I truly agree that the mechas were wasted... Kampfer should have went down in glory, but it got taken down far too easily by a rookie pilot. The other GMs too should have been portrayed as competent war machines, but they went down like flies in front of the Zeon veterans.

The amount of mecha action was relatively few considering how badass the MS designs were, yet I actually felt that the most gruesome battle was not between mechas, but the part where the Cyclops Team barged into the hangar... Bullets being pumped into enemy bodies while blood splattered everywhere.

The sight of the Kampfer and Zaku's cockpit seats were nauseating... If the seats had already been mangled to that extent, imagine the bodies. Mischa probably would have been a pile of mince while Bernie, specks of ashes vaporised by beam sabre particles... sweat.gif

That's the beauty of 0080... War = Lives lost.
To be honest, when I first watched 0080 I was getting impatient as the story went on since it kept focusing on Al's "daily life". But when the battles came... WHOA.... blood everywhere.
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Well thats why i felt disappointed of 0080 cos of the lack of Gundam Action that it should have.. Instead we have 1/2 of the whole series on Al bratty life..

What i mean by identity i mean is Chris and Bernie found out who they really are since Both of them lied about the occupation.. they could slash each other cockpit like Ramba Ral and Amuro which they have to decide between mission or love..

Neil/Lockon is not dead.. still alive.. except he is now Jack Sparrow!!.

QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Mar 15 2008, 09:15 PM)
Huhu, Kampfer downed so easily coz its armor protection is sacrificed to give it better maneuverability and speed (more thruster and vernier). Alex's forearm-mounted gatling gun is only 90mm, not 120mm like the Zaku machinegun. If Kampfer has thicker armor, maybe it can survive
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Err... No Thicker Armor will slow down the Kampfer and consume more fuel.. It had to be light in order to stay fast and have long operation time.
Also even thicker armor wont save Kampfer as Any kind of weaponary will tear any kind of armor at pointblank range. Last is larger rounds doesnt means more powerful..

Velocity of the weapon also counts into penetration also.. A mere Zaku 120 machinegun has hardtime taking out GM due to low rate of fire while the GM 90mm Machine gun can tear down zaku easily as it has a high rate of fire.

QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Mar 15 2008, 10:44 PM)
Kampfer died because it had to. tongue.gif

But seriously the reason why Kampfer lost is because Mischa didn't expect the Alex to have hidden guns and charged dumbly forward. No armour could have withstand 500 rounds of direct hit shells... Even in MSG novels, the RX78's shield couldn't block two continuous bazooka rounds.

The moral of the story... don't get hit more than twice in the same place. Change "twice" to "once" if it's a beam weapon. rclxm9.gif
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nah Mischa already thought the Chain Mine will own Alex..but still alive so he panic a little but since he though Alex has no more weapons.. So beam saber charge..

I agree that GM Command, GM Sniper II and Mass Produce Guncannon could have better screen time

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post Mar 16 2008, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 16 2008, 03:12 AM)
They could slash each other cockpit like Ramba Ral and Amuro which they have to decide between mission or love..

nah Mischa already thought the Chain Mine will own Alex..but still alive so he panic a little but since he though Alex has no more weapons.. So beam saber charge..

I agree that GM Command, GM Sniper II and Mass Produce Guncannon could have better screen time
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Indeed that would make the final fight btw Chris and Bernie more stressful and have more tension, imagine what you would do if you're fighting something you really like. Good point you brought up.

But I suppose they didn't want another Amuro-Lalah or Kamille-Four kind of tension; plus the theme of 0080 is supposed to portray the brutal side of war where innocent lives are being lost within a blink of an eye. What they were trying to portray was how the pilots' death meant to Al, and the irony of war where one could take the life of another easily without knowing anything.

Speaking of which, this reminds me of the mother that got killed as collateral damage in F91. It just happened out of the blue, and BONK! A giant shell hit her on the head and instantly killed her. WHOA... the effect of that is truly overwhelming as it showed how fragile a human can be. I actually prefer it when they show the damaged caused by MS duels in crowded colonies, esp collateral damage and kills as it shows the cruelty of war.

GMs... they do deserve more screen time to eradicate their status as cannon fodders. In reality, they are much superior weapons compared to the monoeyes of Zeon, but most of the time, if not all, Zeon suits are shown to be more badass.
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post Mar 16 2008, 09:10 AM

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epi 23.. dam*

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post Mar 16 2008, 11:48 AM

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can fight Throne zwei if that union guy doesnt come kacau
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post Mar 16 2008, 12:09 PM

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once a nyamuk allways a nyamuk hohoho..
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post Mar 16 2008, 12:15 PM

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Huhu, the irony is Daryl's friend Howard killed by Throne Zwei (albeit by different pilot), but his suicide attack help saved Throne Zwei
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post Mar 16 2008, 12:44 PM

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anyone here that watch victory gundam before? coz find this series freaking weird! currently watch till epi42. the overall story is ok, but the characters are damn weird... and the things they talk just doesnt make much sense. sweat.gif not sure if it is bad translation or what. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(300078 @ Mar 14 2008, 07:28 PM)
ahhhhh it been discussing in this thread for almost half year!
By the way here some standard stuff ppl here will great u with! Welcome to the gundam world! U should go watch UC gundam! OO rocks!........ thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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shocking.gif ouhh almost half year..hahah..im too far at the back la.. UC Gundam? what ive watch is Gundam wing, and it really make me drool.gif thumbup.gif ...hahaha.. and when seed comeout, ive missed the siries..so now im back to continue watching this 00 siries..

and i just bought Gundam Exia model yesterday..hehe..kewll..gonna grab all the collection...

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post Mar 16 2008, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(steellusion @ Mar 16 2008, 01:01 PM)
shocking.gif  ouhh almost half year..hahah..im too far at the back la..  UC Gundam? what ive watch is Gundam wing, and it really make me  drool.gif  thumbup.gif  ...hahaha.. and when seed comeout, ive missed the siries..so now im back to continue watching this 00 siries..

and i just bought Gundam Exia model yesterday..hehe..kewll..gonna grab all the collection...
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Welcome to the world of Gundam... rclxm9.gif It's good to have another fan icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(HMMaster @ Mar 16 2008, 12:44 PM)
anyone here that watch victory gundam before? coz find this series freaking weird! currently watch till epi42. the overall story is ok, but the characters are damn weird... and the things they talk just doesnt make much sense. sweat.gif not sure if it is bad translation or what. sweat.gif
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Yup... watched it before.

It is indeed weird in certain areas, and some of Tomino's ideas were really nonsensical. Bathing naked with a boy to test his newtype abilities? Or sending bikini babes to fight a mecha.... shocking.gif Usso seems pretty much like a typical gundam pilot, i.e. stumbled across a kickass mecha and forced to pilot it to protect his loved ones. Shakti... too naive, just too naive. And I didn't like the fact that they failed to further elaborate on Shakti's background with Queen Maria.

Mecha designs are pretty weird too. Katoki's Victory suits were brilliant, but the Zanscare really had absurd units. The choppers - Zolo, Tomliat were good, so was the Zollida and Zoloats, but later units were horrendous. Dragons... spiders.... ZOMGWTF? Yet the tyres and Zanneck were formidable foes.

The final battle was intense and provided good action, at least there's no "flawless victory" like GSD doh.gif

In all, Victory is quite enjoyable... not exactly the best, but worth watching if you can look past a depressed Tomino's work.

Chapter 10 of Unicorn is out... The battle of Palau, where Argama fights to save Barnage and Unicorn from the sleeved ones.
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post Mar 16 2008, 04:05 PM

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exia 1/100 or 1/144 or 1/60?...
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Gundam 00 ep. 23 release or not? hmm.gif
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post Mar 16 2008, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(eternallove @ Mar 15 2008, 08:35 PM)
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QUOTE(steellusion @ Mar 16 2008, 04:42 PM)
Gundam 00 ep. 23 release or not? hmm.gif
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post Mar 16 2008, 06:12 PM

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Subbed version too already out
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post Mar 16 2008, 08:53 PM

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post Mar 16 2008, 09:37 PM

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izzit UC gundam r operates wif fuel?
was wondering of the question long time ago

of 00
where nena had gone?
y din setsuna bring her back o destroy her?

what a funny part i remember is patrick been knocked away by the exploded stones
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post Mar 16 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ Mar 16 2008, 09:37 PM)
izzit UC gundam r operates wif fuel?
was wondering of the question long time ago

of 00
where nena had gone?
y din setsuna bring her back o destroy her?

what a funny part i remember is patrick been knocked away by the exploded stones
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Hmm, their thruster might be, but their generator is Minovsky fusion reactor. Somehow I feel Minovsky fusion reactor in UC is somewhat simlar wif GN Drive (both use element taht isnt existing in real world;Minovsky particle and GN particle). Both Minovsky and GN particles have the ability to disrupt radar and comm signal, and both have anti-gravity property. Furthermore, beam weaponry in UC is not laser, but instead a high density particles, juz like how beam weaponry works in Gundam 00. The slight difference is that Minovsky particle(in form of I-Field) can only block beam weaponry, while GN particle can block almost anything
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post Mar 17 2008, 12:33 AM

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wow cool man lockon's rifle in his cockpit can sambung to GN arms cannon with juz some wires.
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post Mar 17 2008, 12:40 AM

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V gundam not bad not bad! Always remember the theme song! Stand up to the Victory! lots of ppl die in this series! Making it one of the legend!
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post Mar 17 2008, 12:45 AM

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this series has the best gundam vs gundam fighting scenes so far. no trans-am, no kira superpower watsoeva, only thing is stupid flag fighter guy kacau.
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post Mar 17 2008, 01:45 AM

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yea lockon wit one eye overpowering an melee gundam using a range type gundam in melee mode wit no trans am........

he's by far the most skilled piot out of the 4

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