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post Apr 23 2008, 05:33 PM

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Guys... gundam please... mechwarrior you can start it at the video games thread.

Goal = Victory !!
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Even though I think Katoki Hajime is sometimes overrated, but see what Okawara did to Victory and Xbone T_T Then again I'm not sure whether these are hoax pictures since the Victory and Xbone are originally designed by Katoki. Don't remember Okawara doing them unsure.gif
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Tallgeese has a TV head too tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2008, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(steellusion @ Apr 23 2008, 05:41 PM)
guys..gundam xbone from which siries? i want to collect the anime la..just got char's counterattack...great..enjoyed watchin sazabi fight with nu gundam..
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Oh yeah. Welcome to the Bright side tongue.gif

Nu vs Sazabi is one of the best battles ever due to the long years of hatred and rivalry, although it ended quite abruptly not unlike most other gundam melees.

Xbone = Crossbone Gundam manga... sequel of F91. I think there are 3 parts to it, where Kincadou/Seabook is the main character in the first one while Tobia Arronax (Kincadou's successor) takes over in the remaining 2.
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post Apr 23 2008, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(felix5152001 @ Apr 23 2008, 07:40 PM)
yo~... gundam thread nice rclxms.gif
i love gundam so much rclxm9.gif
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So come over to the Bright side... other get a Bright-slap rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(steellusion @ Apr 23 2008, 06:02 PM)
ouhh its from manga..then no anime for that lahh?hmm...beside char's counterattack, what other else gundam anime that best ?
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Well depends on whether you want to follow the chronological order. For me I don't really care about that since you can easily find out which events are connected to what from the internet.

I'd say if you don't have much time just watch the movies and OVAs first.

0080 is a must. tongue.gif redeye is going to scream at me for this icon_idea.gif
0083 = EPIC WARS !!! DIE DIE DIE !! ZIEG SEON !!
08th MST = mud mud mud everywhere... no SRW, no aimbot, and of course Norris FTW
F91 = short and sweet... awesome title song and starwars march, absolutely crazy fights.

Avoid Zeta movies if you have no idea of the Z storyline since the movies rush through everything in lightspeed. But the remade animation is gorgeous.
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post Apr 24 2008, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Apr 23 2008, 11:14 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif 0080... Sure you can watch that but i must warn you that Dont expect much mecha action. I still feel that 0080 could be better.

lemee add somemore.

MSG Movie.. Yes watch the movies not the TV series as today story arc follow the movies
MGIGLOO.. This is a must watch.. good CG.
So i take it as we are not gonna recomend the more recent series AUs Starghazzer???

Also err Starghazzer show this list to other Gundam forum and you are gonna get toast in flame..

Cos Tomino Elitist will come bashing you saying You are watching Gundam that not made by Tomino and hence You do not understand the true essences of Gundam..
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I too feel that 0080 can be better but we've gone through this already so I'm not going to repeat it. Let the other members who've watched it comment tongue.gif

Igloo has superb CG, much better than the out-dated Evolve. The first one showed the pure awesomeness of a flying Zgok, while the Hidolf is a mean machine esp towards the end where it springs from death and blasts its enemies to smithereens in its final shot.

Other gundam forums hehe... I like gundam but I'm not a die-hard Tomino fan, and to be honest those non-Tomino movies and OVAs are too good to be missed.

As for other AU series, I was focusing on short movies/OVAs so I didn't mention the series. Endless Waltz is not exactly something enjoyable for me since it's a glorified toy advertisement. Stargazer OVA did a better job here.

QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 23 2008, 11:22 PM)
is the Gundam MKIII canon?  laugh.gif
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MKIII... dunno canon or not, but it sure doesn't retain the gundamsque look. It looks as if it's a descendent of the Zeta line like the ZPlus A1 and C1.
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post Apr 24 2008, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 24 2008, 09:58 AM)
Mass production Zeta ma...although it should be GM head instead. laugh.gif

Is the small pic at the bottom left supposed to be a GM Psycho? laugh.gif
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Psycho MKII, piloted by Rosamia... It looks more menacing than the MKI.

Mass produced Zetas... well ReGZs are supposed to play that role, but even after stripping down so many parts the ReGZ is still deemed too expensive for mass-production hence the plan never got implemented. That's why we still see Jegans in F91, but at least Heavyguns were starting to take over and in Victory the main EF grunts were Javelins.
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post Apr 25 2008, 07:41 AM

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New updates of Unicorn !! Chapter 11 out now.

The MS mechanics of this chapter features the beefed up Jegan thumbup.gif
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post Apr 26 2008, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ Apr 26 2008, 02:04 PM)
yet jegan seems to b the soldier units that use for very long time
from CCA to F91 around 30 yrs

unlike from GM to GM II so fast
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Because there wasn't any major conflicts after the demise of Zeon all the way up to F91 era. Without big scale wars there's no need to upgrade weapons in a rapid rate. Note that during the peri-OYW years MSes get churned out faster than anything else, especially from the Titans as they seem to throw every possible prototype into action ASAP.

Jegans were pwned by the smaller and more nimble Xbone mechas... But credit must be given to the Jegans. Their presence meant that the EF was able to resist Neo Zeon's Geara Dogas without major problems. But of course they were no match for funnels like Jagd Dogas or Alpha Azieru... until the god-like Nu appeared... whistling.gif
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post Apr 26 2008, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Tsubasa66 @ Apr 26 2008, 09:09 PM)
F91's performance during the Crossbone Vanguard conflict would later result in this Gundam being put into limited mass production. Some of these mass-produced F91s would be used by the Earth Federation Forces' in a war against the Jupiter Empire in UC 0133.
This is wat i meant
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Well Nu was destroyed when it got vaporised by the psychoframe resonance. Don't ask why Anaheim didn't mass produce the Nu and sell it to EF for profit, for that you need to ask Tomino. Maybe they realised that ReGNu (Refined Gundam Nu) sounds shitty... sweat.gif

Unicorn's storyline sheds some light about the psychoframe technology. In 0093 the psychoframe was only integrated into the frame around the cockpit. That alone already caused the fin funnels to be too sensitive and reflexive to the pilot's brain waves, as shown by Amuro when his panicking made the funnels attack the cables which are trapping Nu and indirectly leading to Kayra's death in Gyunei's hands. Forward 3 years, and we see Anaheim incorporating the psychoframe into the entire skeleton of the Unicorn (and possibly Sinanju too). As mentioned before, Barnage's reflexive thoughts allowed the Unicorn to dodge Full Frontal's attacks without even requiring joystick control. This could possibly be the predecessor of the Rafflesia's handless control system, where Karozzo piloted the bunga entirely with cables connected to his helmet.

Oh well, here's some proof why Zeon suits KICK ASS.
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This one is huge so I'll put the link instead.
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SIEG ZEON !!

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post Apr 27 2008, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Apr 27 2008, 03:10 AM)
I still feel that EF was starting to deline after CCA hence their military is weak.
The Nu cant be mass produce because Amuro play a major role into inventing Nu Gundam. While AE and Chen pretty much help him out. So with the inventor dead and his assistant , So Nu Gundam will remain forever lost.

If u wanted to see Nu Gundam again.. well ask Fukuda to introudce Gundam Seed III and Kira Yamato will pilot Nu Freedom just as planed.
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Possibly. EF was already corrupted to start with, so there's no surprise to see them decay even more after CCA. AE should have had a copy of the Nu's plans since they are the ones who made it, but who knows why didn't they make it anyway. The demise of Chan and Amuro doesn't mean that AE couldn't re-manufacture the big machine, it's just whether Tomino wants it to be resurrected or not.

At the moment, Unicorn seems to be on par, if not more powerful than the Nu... The only thing it lacks is the funnels and the cheating pyramid beam shield. So maybe that's where the AE resources went.

Nu Freedom... *shudders*

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post Apr 27 2008, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Apr 27 2008, 02:09 PM)
AE wouldnt have a complete copy of Nu because Nu to begin with wasnt complete. It was rushed to the frontlines. Also Mass Producing it require alot of changes and modification so without Amuro, Its just difficult to be practical.

Also if observe EF in general is using GMIII which is consider outdated already. So compare to spending more time and money on Nu or just pump out an already exsisting design Jegan. So there you have it.
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Obviously it's too difficult to be practical for a mass produced Nu. I never said they succeeded in the first place... I'm merely suggesting the possibility that they are able do so if they wanted to.

The ReGZ without transformation is already deemed too expensive, to mass produce a psychoframe unit would be even more tedious. That's why Jegans got rolled out instead.

QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Apr 27 2008, 02:54 PM)
Like it or not, 0080 has more soul since the characters were more developed than the rest of the UC Gundam series. A lot of other Gundam characters were becoming caricature themselves, too much emphasis on MS battle while neglecting who are this people are. 0080 is story of human beings, not typical Gundam which a massive win from other where other Gundam is either mecha masturbation or peacenik ramblings. F 91 for example is so tepid in characterization. Sure the MS look pretty but it is hollow and empty, no soul.

MS Igloo is pretty yes, but it is so hopelessly stereotypical that it become unmemorable.

Gundam dialogue also bordering on either too silly or too childish. That needs reworking too. The writers have to trust that audience can think for themselves and show the story, not telling it.
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That's why I loved 0080 a lot. It means so much more than the other series despite having the least amount of battles. And every time they fought it ends up in a bloody mess, which is the way war should be. And as you put it, everyone has a soulful existence in the story. They don't have to pilot MSes to be important.

Gundam dialogue... this is why we need maniacal yet philosophical baddies whose ideas are thought-provoking, although they don't necessarily need to be correct.


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WOW... ME DOZLE HULK !!! ME ANGREEEEEE !!!!!

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post Apr 28 2008, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(tsubasa89 @ Apr 28 2008, 04:37 PM)
hmm....the skinhead octopus? tongue.gif
what i wondered is why does it always have to be the baddies that have some very philosophical ideas and thinking till the extend that they seems to be doing it in good intentions, but the leaders behind the main character's side are just bunch of corrupted,money thirsty, and selfish old man???(and usually involved American in the top position....)
hmm.....whistling.gif
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octopus? siapa tu?

And of course baddies have to be ones who are philosophical... it's what makes them charismatic. No one loves antagonists who kill for the sake of killing, or being evil for nothing; but villains with an agenda... that's cool...
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post Apr 29 2008, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 29 2008, 10:37 AM)
I agree.

The Astraea is the only 00 gundam which I think looks nice.

QUOTE(kyon22 @ Apr 29 2008, 12:09 PM)
Watch it half way. I got the english dub version..
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HALF WAY?

Oh man... you gotta finish CA in one shot... and the english dub SUCKS... change the audio filter to japanese and hear Char's sexy voice.

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post Apr 30 2008, 04:55 PM

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LOL

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post May 1 2008, 05:14 AM

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It's a "what if" parody thingy that switched Char-Haman and Delaz-Gato... The one on the right shows Haman = Delaz and Char = Gato, stealing the GP02; while the left... UGH... it's the history of Haman seen by Kamille when he locked horns with Haman via newtype powah.



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Back from /m/ and there seems to be some fanart about new 00 gundams. This is quite decent, and it has Unicorn-like legs... but I still don't like the bomber man marble in the middle... dry.gif
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DIE COPYCAT... DIE !! Original FTW !!
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post May 3 2008, 06:44 AM

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If the notion of 00 = revamped version of GW is true (they have similarities anyway), there's still a high chance that the new CB would play a role as Preventers of EW.

Even though it seems like Earth has been united, we have no idea who's having the most authority. CB might evolve into the an AEUG-like organisation if there is a Titans-like faction within the unified earth federation who rules with absolute tyranny.

The only problem here is: Titans were supposedly formed to suppress any Zeonic remnants. In 00 the only "opposing" faction is CB which pretty much consists of a few WMDs rather than an entire army like the Zeonic remnants, so who should EF fight against? Unless their Lance MSes are just to suppress any rebel factions, which would then turn the new EF into a Titans copycat anyway. Maybe Ribbons would be the new antagonist, but that means EF + 00 would have to "join forces" to fight against him.

I dread to see the new 00 rehash the Zeta setting again. GSD tried to do it but failed. There's so many possibilities though, so we will just have to wait and see. As long as CB doesn't become another 3 ship alliance where they whack whoever that starts wars, it's still relatively acceptable.

Found an absolutely terrific discussion about Char and his character, personality, and ambitions. I haven't finished all the posts yet, probably will add in some of my comments here after that. Go ahead and have a read through all the pages, and maybe we can make it our next discussion...
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Gundam_Evoluti...topic=1645&st=0

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post May 3 2008, 10:50 AM

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Finally..... Haman wub.gif
http://www.zeonic-distro.net/downloads/man...it_Gundam_-_Cha
r%60s_Deleted_Affair_%5bVolume02%5d.zip

CDA vol2 from Zeonic Corps.


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post May 4 2008, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ May 4 2008, 01:36 AM)
404 Error.. on CDA manga

So Gundam 00 season 2 is??..

Innovator vs CB vs Earth Federation??
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Hm... seems that the direct link has been removed liao... Lucky for me I dled it quickly.

Oh well, PM me your email so that I can send the torrent to you...

Chapter 2 of CDA is absolutely superb... The aggressive Zeonic remnants who wanted to continue the war set up a trap to lure EF troops to whack Axis, so that Axis will retaliate. Yet they got their asses whooped by EF's upgraded GMs which were incorporated with Amuro's battle data. Besides that, Haman's unstable adolescent temper gets more exposure this time and we start to see glimpses of her ambitious side.

Great stuff, I can't wait to read the third chapter.

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ May 5 2008, 12:19 AM)
For Volume 2 of CDA

Haman is now starting to be able to manipulate people... She even trick her supervisor into confessing her involvement with Char.

And what the deal with all the suggestive element of Haman.. Having shadows of her naked body especially when she wearing white behind light.

And WTF is the deal with everything is getting to small for her.. She metamorhping from a loli to a boing boing girl??????

Hmm.. So GM commands are owning the obselete Zaku army.. Well this is kinda a deja vu of A Boa Wu Que.. where Pro GM vs Noob Geloog.

Last is.. Is Haman Modified Dom resemble alot like a quebely or its just me..
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That's why I said we are starting to see the dark side of Haman... and remember that she's a growing teenager, so it makes sense that she needs new fitting clothes. The naked silhouettes are just there for fan service, and honestly it's just an outline rather than a fully exposed naked scene like Kiki in 08th MST.

The Dom... it has large boosters plus an additional funnel pod, and from CDA vol1 it's already stated that she's being trained to utilise her newtype powers to the max; so yeah that makes sense too. In fact she's so powerful that she smashed a vase with psychic power in vol1, no one except Scirocco used psychic power to destroy stuff (i.e. Kamille's sanity) in the whole UC universe. The closest hint I could think of is Karozzo's killing of Theo Fairchild in F91, but that could possibly be the effect of poison instead of newtype blast.

And man... I can't wait for vol3... Char does something really kickass while saving a stunned Haman.
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