Damn it, it's going overboard guys...

wolfx and quazacolt... I have no idea why both of you cannot accept redeye's and even my views about 00's weak points, even though both of you may enjoy that show. It's not as if we are critising it for the sake of bashing nor are we critising it because it was a totally horrible wreck; it's just that 00 is NOT a perfect anime as you guys might think. In fact, we did mention about 00's strong points too. Credit will be given when due, same as criticisms.

You guys have your perceptions about 00, we have ours. As long as we have made our stand clear that will be enough, no one is going to change the others' minds so why go on and on countering each and every sentence? If you think redeye's review is too negative so be it, he has his reasons for stating so and they are not meaningless reasons.

Not that I'm being overly personal or anything, and my regrets if they sound so as it was never intended as such; but maybe it's time to remove 00 from that holy pedestal. There will be pros and cons comments, there's no need to counter every part as long as it makes sense. After all, no one person thinks alike in everything.

Maybe you guys can come up with your own reviews and share your thoughts, not only on 00 but also other series. After all this is a generalised gundam thread, not limited to 00 anyway.

Peace be with us all.
Or suffer a colony drop.

Oh well, remember the fake Belthorchika Anime poster? Here's a Unicorn version of it, albeit not as well made.


This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Apr 2 2008, 04:59 PM

Even rotten tomatoes have polarising comments too for every movie, so that's not a good example. I read both good and bad reviews on rottentomatoes regarding movies that I've watched, then I make my own judgment on it no matter people agree or not with me. I don't expect everyone to have the same wavelength as I do anyway; we're all different individuals with different perspectives.

You may enjoy your gundams as an action flick, we may want something more serious. Or the other way round, it doesn't matter. For you it may be the best AU, I disagree yet I can respect that.

Anyway, my point is that we all have our own reasons of liking/disliking 00 and seriously this issue is not going to end. So why bother keeping the debate on and on and on? Let's stop the endless pages of counter-posting shall we? There's so much more in Gundam to be discussed and shared about.

Well, as long as people don't get emotional I'm ok with it. It's just that it's getting boring if there were endless pages of nonstop verbal melee which wouldn't come to a conclusion.

I haven't seen all AU series (yet to watch G and Turn A) to make a justified comment, all I can say is that they have their own pros and cons.
GW:
pros = dark twist of plot, good elaboration of story, serious atmosphere... no nonsensical comical relief
cons = free frags + plot armour

EW:
pros = good toy commercial
cons = free frags, toy commercial it surely is

GX:
pros = great concept about a post-apocalyptic world, useful grunts
cons = baddie of the week in mid series, plot armour, weird baddies in the form of the Frost brothers

Seed, GSD, and 00 I've made my point clear, so no need to repeat them.

To be honest I don't have a favourite AU as I side more with UC, but if I had to choose I'd reluctantly choose GW because of the intense storyline.
My favourite series in all Gundams.. All of them are good and bad in their own way; nevertheless for me the one with the least flaws would be 0080. Yes, not everyone's favourite... but it has the best flow.

CCA is pretty high up on my list but too bad they made the Nu too strong and the Sazabi a wimp.
F91 COULD have been good, if only they hadn't cramped everything into a 1.5 hour movie and skipping all the character development. The detailed art and action makes up for it though

I'm not exactly a great fanatic of GW to be honest, Wing fanboy I sure am not. It's just that I appreciate it more than other AUs, that's all. In fact I dread the cons of GWs very much as mentioned umpteen times in the past so I don't have to repeat it again.

wolfx, you don't need to comment on my preference of W over 00, you won't change my mind while I won't change yours either

Meh... UC is still relatively better since it has a much better expanded timeline and background history. Yeah yeah it does have its flaws, nobody's disagreeing with that.

Turn A's concept is quite good actually and their explanation for connecting all universes together is acceptable for me. The uprise and downfall of a civilisation, followed by the dawn of the following one which represents another "gundam universe". I must get my hands on Turn A one of these days...

You're just twisting my post around, be a little bit more creative will you?

What I meant by holy pedestal is that you seem to attempt to correct every line about 00's cons, and seldom we see you acknowledge them. I never put UC on that high ground anyway, you just assumed it. I merely said I prefer UC over AU but of course go ahead and criticise UC as long as you can back it with facts, they too have their own fair share of criticisms.

Bah, never mind. Like jhcj said, let's just watch the show and buy gunplas instead.

Your kits are nicely built even without painting, so yeah.

Head over to the modelling techniques thread. Come on, it's PINNED UP already... won't hurt to spend some time and read the tutorials over there.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/488910

The Gunpla thread is good
You'll only get ignored or flamed if you ask noobie questions which already has answers provided in the pinned threads.

Welcome to the world of gunpla where it sucks your money faster than anything else.

We can always bomb this thread with gundam related pictures, like how we used to do before the airing of 00.

And of course, the discussions about technology, story-line, politics, philosophies of various gundam series...

First batch gundam? 0079? Oh yeah... welcome to the Bright side

And I LOL'ed at this picture. It's just so damn funny for no reason.

I haven't read the novel either, only glimpsed through them in small parts. Whatever I know about the story and the mechanics have already been mentioned before, so check back the old posts

You can find the translated versions here. It's going to kill your eyes by reading it online, while killing your bandwidth by loading all the pages.
http://photo.163.com/photos/led2989/

Where the heck is everybody?

Found something interesting from 4chan. The REAL size of the Sazabi


hehe... animation error I reckon.

And I seriously think the new artist for Unicorn is not as good as the original one.

Nice colours though....

Purupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupurupuru !!!

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Apr 8 2008, 05:56 PM

Yeah... Marida = Ple 12.

Jumbo Grade Zeta = RM850...
With that amount of money I could get myself an ARMY of Zeta Gundams.

DUH... thread really dead... unlike the time when 00 was still on air, the posts snowball so fast that I can't even read them quick enough.

Found more interesting stuff:

Anaheim newspaper?

Anyone remember Franchesa? Cookie for anyone who knows where it is.

Found a sketch of the proposed lineart of Alex's bazooka. Looks like it didn't make it to the gunpla, let alone the anime.


Finally... HE IS A CHAR.

Please don't quote the pictures... it blows up the page.

Remove [img] tags or at least spoiler them... spare a thought for people using slowmoe internet, ya?



Here you go.


We should have more gundam quiz during this period where there's no anime running.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Apr 10 2008, 03:44 PM

Ok, I cheated with google. Hence you can save the cookies.

Who the heck memories all those nonsensical acronyms anyway?

I think vince has one in his "gundam museum"...

Not that crazy to remember all those weird long names which doesn't make sense

Those "unilateral" stuff is really absurd. Unilateral... so you only pilot one side of the gundam?

WTF more acronyms?

GM=Gundam Mass Production Type, but not sure what the "RGM" stands for... Do they actually have a name for that? The MG manual didn't have it IIRC.

Refined Gundam Mass Production type?

Even RX78's "X" I'm not exactly sure... I recall seeing it being interpreted as "eXperimental" but don't quote me on that as I have no sources to confirm.

Google says: ZGMF = Zero-Gravity Maneuver Fighter, not sure about GAT-X.

Easy win for Zeta:


Hm... Renpou... never thought of that.
Unicorn = RX-0 but it's not made for EF, in fact it's maded by Anaheim for Vist Foundation.

The N in MSN not necessarily refers to Neo Zeon.
In ZZ most of the Neo Zeon suits have code names which start with A instead.

From what I know, the N stands for Newtype use MS from Zeon. Sazabi and Jagd Doga start with MSN, even the earlier Zeonic newtype use MAs has the N name in them, eg:
MSN-02 Zeong
MAN-03 Braw Bro
MAN-08 Elmeth

Then again, the only odd one out is MSN-00100 Hyaku Shiki... Oh well, it's CHAR so he can put any name he wants.

New question, this should be damn easy:

Name 3 characters in any gundam series with an eyepatch.

Who's Sato? Can't remember from GSD... Ginn pilot?

Since you got 3 so you get to ask the next question...

But yeah, Hilda the DOM pilot was another fella with eyepatch.
And of course, Zabine from F91.

2 more...

Well Zeta and the Z Plus variants looked really streamlined and plane-like.

I agree that the Geass mechas are ugly, but that's the recent trend of mecha designs...

Walaoeh... how to compare different universe gundams? If really want to compare, Turn A is the strongest of them all since the Moonlight butterfly wiped out modern civilisation.

First question also cannot answer since we don't know the full capabilities of the Unicorn yet. All we have are performance stats, but with the full pyschoframe it can possibly move the sun.

Zeong = blue/grey
MKII Titans = blue (this doesn't count )
Hyaku Shiki = bling bling

Speaking of which, remember Zero The R from CDA? It's red too


Since I'm doing my orthopaedic rotation now, here's something fun.

Name the broken limbs (left? right? arm? leg?) of the following characters:
Lt. Burning (0083)
Kelly-san (0083)
Shiro (08th MST)
Andrew Wartfield (GS, GSD)
Louise (00) Too easy

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Apr 11 2008, 08:41 PM

Answers for the orthopaedic questions:


Evolve is not supposed to be canon, that's why I said it doesn't count

More questions:
List 3 (or more) characters who died of decapitation.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Apr 11 2008, 09:21 PM

eh, answer questions

What does SD G generation gotta do with those?

Char tested out the MKII in evolve IIRC, but it was mainly Kamille who was doing the test flight and data analysis.
And seriously any Char fan should read CDA if available... the artwork ROCKS while Char kicks ass in the story.

Of course, there's the cute 14-year old Haman