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arremie
post Jul 24 2008, 02:58 PM

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The bottomline is, if your AVR can decode all the HD audio then S350 is good for you. Can't wait to get mine. Crap...I'm drooling all over the place laugh.gif
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post Jul 24 2008, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 24 2008, 09:25 AM)
RX, I think he still misunderstood what PCM and bitstream is all about.

An AVR with internally/onboard decoding of DTS-HD MA is required to pair with the S350, because the S350 can't send DTS-HD MA as PCM, only bitstream.
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page 62 of S350's manual, point *5

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS350_US.pdf



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post Jul 24 2008, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 24 2008, 07:37 PM)
page 62 of S350's manual, point *5

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS350_US.pdf
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That's right, if the AV receiver can only accept LPCM and can't decode lossless audio codecs on board, it will get a DTS Core track from DTS-MA tracks via LPCM. I guess I didn't misunderstood this one from the beginning.

Anyone knows what solution will be used to deinterlace dvds when they're played on a S350? What Video DAC is used for BD? Any info on that?
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post Jul 24 2008, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jul 24 2008, 08:46 PM)
That's right, if the AV receiver can only accept LPCM and can't decode lossless audio codecs on board, it will get a DTS Core track from DTS-MA tracks via LPCM. I guess I didn't misunderstood this one from the beginning.

Anyone knows what solution will be used to deinterlace dvds when they're played on a S350? What Video DAC is used for BD? Any info on that?
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no one is bragging about the video processing chip sooo - nothing impressive i guess - not even an Anchor Bay video processor tongue.gif
arremie
post Jul 24 2008, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 24 2008, 07:37 PM)
page 62 of S350's manual, point *5
Point *5 only saying IF your amp does not decode HD audio format. So IF your amp does decode HD format....no problemo. Bitstreaming all the way then tongue.gif
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post Jul 24 2008, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 24 2008, 11:17 PM)
Point *5 only saying IF your amp does not decode HD audio format. So IF your amp does decode HD format....no problemo. Bitstreaming all the way then tongue.gif
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if you ignore 'DTS CORE' at the audio codec part, then, yes tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2008, 12:05 AM

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LPCM mean u output thru 5.1 analog right and not thru HDMI?
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post Jul 25 2008, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 25 2008, 12:05 AM)
LPCM mean u output thru 5.1 analog right and not thru HDMI?
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let me make it clearer

S350 does bitstream via HDMI 1.3. DTS HD MA receivers MUST have HDMI 1.3 to be used with S350 to get up to 7.1 multichannel via bitstream. If your receiver is not HDMI 1.3 capable

http://dts.com/DownloadDocument.aspx?q=a7b...b2-cda9554bb6a5

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S350 does not have 5.1 analogue - only stereo anologue out.

I was referring to receivers that can do multi LPCM but does not have HDMI 1.3. This kinda of receiver needs the S550 with 5.1 analogue out.

and oh, makesure that your receiver is HDMI 1.3 if to be used with S350.

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post Jul 25 2008, 09:56 AM

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So the S350 can bitstream DTS-HD MA right? Problem solved. rclxms.gif

Everybody already know HDMI 1.3/a is the only way to bitstream HD audio (HBR). The question was whether the S350 can do it or not? biggrin.gif

That's why i said many times in my previous posts, that you'll need an AVR with internal/onboard HD audio decoding to pair with the S350. HDMI version is not the question anymore, because how can the AVR decode internally, if doesn't support HDMI 1.3 in the first place?
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post Jul 25 2008, 10:02 AM

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post Jul 25 2008, 10:05 AM

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u need a new interface (HDMI) to carry so much of data at 1 go


audio + video = some time peak maybe can hit 60Mbps

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post Jul 25 2008, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jul 25 2008, 10:05 AM)
u need a new interface (HDMI) to carry so much of data at 1 go
audio + video = some time peak maybe can hit 60Mbps
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That's is just what our beloved PS3 is doing. Sending both 1080p video and multi-channel PCM at one go.

Bitstreaming should be easier, as the data would be smaller. The player will send the audio still "zipped", it's the AVR's job to "unzip" it.

DTS-HD MA/Dolby TrueHD files are much smaller than multi-channel PCM. But they're all from lossless studio masters.

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post Jul 25 2008, 10:43 AM

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Cool. U guys really informative notworthy.gif
That means I have no problem matching S350 with my Yammy 663 and do full bitstream DTS-MA via HDMI thumbup.gif
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post Jul 25 2008, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 24 2008, 10:49 PM)
no one is bragging about the video processing chip sooo - nothing impressive i guess - not even an Anchor Bay video processor tongue.gif
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That's the problem, the video processing chip must be an all in one solution punya I guess.
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jul 25 2008, 12:18 PM)
That's the problem, the video processing chip must be an all in one solution punya I guess.
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aiyo - like RM150 motherboard with built in sound, lan, graphic tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2008, 04:39 PM

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bro aiman

sorry

DTS HD MA can go up to 20M++

but PCM @96k 7.1 max 6.9M nie if not mistaken
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jul 25 2008, 04:39 PM)
bro aiman

sorry

DTS HD MA can go up to 20M++

but PCM @96k 7.1 max 6.9M nie if not mistaken
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aiyo - see the chart that i posted above - from DTS' DTS-HD white paper wink.gif
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post Jul 25 2008, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Jul 25 2008, 04:39 PM)
bro aiman

sorry

DTS HD MA can go up to 20M++

but PCM @96k 7.1 max 6.9M nie if not mistaken
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x:

Did you read my post? That's after it has been decoded, or in easier words, "unpacked/unzipped".

This further proves my point, PS3 sends a lot of data because it decodes by itself and send it "unzipped" instead of bitstream.

Just go to blu-ray.com forums and check the "insider" section.

BTW, posting this using my 2.0 iPhone (show off, tongue.gif)
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post Jul 25 2008, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 25 2008, 08:03 PM)
x:

Did you read my post? That's after it has been decoded, or in easier words, "unpacked/unzipped".

This further proves my point, PS3 sends a lot of data because it decodes by itself and send it "unzipped" instead of bitstream.

Just go to blu-ray.com forums and check the "insider" section.

BTW, posting this using my 2.0 iPhone (show off, tongue.gif)
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ur 3g iphone can play bd movies ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 25 2008, 08:07 PM)
ur 3g iphone can play bd movies ?  tongue.gif
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Yes!! rclxms.gif

Well, kind of. I have the digital copies from Jumper and Juno blu-rays transferred to my iPhone. tongue.gif

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