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post Feb 28 2008, 11:36 PM

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Bro g5sim sudah tukar gambar so fast, now supporting Blu-Ray camp liao. Hahaha. Toshiba sure will be very sad. laugh.gif

Even though the players are priced from USD400 to USD500, our local punya BDP-S300 already RM2,900 and I bet this model will be priced in the range of RM3K to RM5K. Hai ........ If it's less than RM2K, I'll definitely angkat the top model. The design looks nice for a blu-ray player and with profile 2.0 ready, I guess that's put it on par with Panasonic upcoming blu-ray player, also profile 2.0 ready. I wonder whether there are other new profile revisions in the future. I very takut liao, because the blu-ray camp got macam-macam punya profiles which can cause blu-ray compatibility problems.
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post Mar 7 2008, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Feb 29 2008, 12:27 PM)
you mean the BD1400 which is a 1.0 profile model that got sued with a class action lawsuit in the USA? RM800 oso fikir 12 kali wor  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Even Sharp blu-ray player also Profile 1.0 but was never highlighted in their brochure and they pakat with Speedy to market it by giving a few free blu-ray movies.
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post Mar 10 2008, 11:42 PM

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The PS3 rocks when playing blu-ray movies, very quick start up times, followed by Sharp's Aquos BD player but do remember the PS3 is still a software based player, it doesn't have a dedicated hardware so the deinterlacing performance might not be on par with dedicated standalone BD players and secondly, PS3 consumes a lot of power if compared to a dedicated BD player so not good for the environment and also your pocket. tongue.gif


QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 8 2008, 01:07 PM)
wah for such a staunch HD supporter, you seriously behind the curve..  biggrin.gif

even Xbox possibly going blu-ray..
Microsoft, Sony In Blu-ray-For-Xbox Talks

Microsoft found itself without a high-definition video partner last month after HD DVD developer Toshiba said it would drop the format.

By Paul McDougall
InformationWeek
March 7, 2008 01:03 PM

Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT) and Sony officials are in talks that could lead to a version of the Xbox video game console equipped with a Blu-ray high-definition DVD player.

Sony Electronics U.S. president Stan Glasgow revealed the discussions at a media dinner Thursday in San Francisco, according to an account of the event published by London's Financial Times. Glasgow said his company is also engaged in talks aimed at adding Sony Blu-ray to devices made by Apple, according to the paper.

Microsoft found itself without a high-definition video partner last month after HD DVD developer Toshiba said it would drop the format. Toshiba's announcement followed commitments by virtually all major Hollywood studios to back Blu-ray.

Days after Toshiba formally pulled the plug on HD DVD, Microsoft said it would discontinue an external Xbox 360 drive that supports the high-definition movie format.

Microsoft had been selling an HD DVD player as a $129 add-on for the Xbox 360. Existing units are now selling for less than half of that on eBay.

The death of HD DVD puts Microsoft in a quandary. Sony's PlayStation 3 console features a built-in Blu-ray player. With HD DVD no longer viable, Microsoft needs to find an alternate high-definition format for the Xbox.

The company could itself move to Blu-ray. But it might also reject its rival's technology and focus instead on offering high-definition downloads through its Xbox Live online content service.

Microsoft already sells a limited selection of HD television and movie downloads on Xbox Live, which boasts more than 10 million members.

In the meantime, Microsoft has said that HD DVD's discontinuation won't hurt Xbox 360 sales -- insisting that it's games, and not movies, that dictate console sales.



Added on March 8, 2008, 1:10 pm

actually cheap player doesn't mean good blu-ray performance....
still alot of processing power involved when handling 1080p HD movies.. which is what PS3 has (2 teraflops of combined processing power)  thumbup.gif

don't believe, just see how long it takes for HD-dvd/blu-ray standalone to "switch on player, load in disc to 1st video image".. (compare that to PS3)
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post Mar 11 2008, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 11 2008, 01:34 PM)
PS3 is a 2 teraflops software player.. at the moment, the standalone players using ICs are still not comparable in processing power..  you just have to check out how butter smooth is the 1.5X fast Fwd function, some standalone players might even stutter or jerk the frames at such function..


Added on March 11, 2008, 1:36 pmas for power consumption, come on la, if you use aircon in your room, you already suck more power than Plasma Tv/LCD TV/ projector etc.. why bother about how much a PS3 consumes power in the household.. it's relatively small..
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I'm stating the facts bro, standalone blu-ray player consumes 38 watts, PS3 consumes 200 watts, you can do the Maths but however, new PS3 consoles will consume less power when the Cell processor is reduced to 65nm later this year.


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post Jul 21 2008, 01:25 AM

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If I'm not wrong, it does bistream DTS-MA.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1046952
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post Jul 21 2008, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 21 2008, 05:40 AM)
they say it does 'bitstream dts-hd and dts-hd ma because their receiver's hd-ma light is on. i am arguing that the light is on because the hd-ma's Core track was bitstreamed to the receiver not the lossless hd-ma track entirely.

if the S350 can do 100% hd-ma lossless why doesnt it just include the hd-ma logo, instead it has the dts-hd (advanced audio out) logo?

furthermore, S350 manual says ' its hd-ma Core only
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Well, so far, I only read that it can't output DTS-MA via PCM, only Core. Well, don't forget the PS3 doesn't have a DTS-MA logo too and it can decode it internally.

QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 21 2008, 11:36 AM)
When you bitstream DTS core, the DTS-HD MA logo WILL NOT light up on your AVR. Instead you'll only see the normal DTS logo.
Yes, in their first BD releases ever, The Mummy, The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King.

Other than Fox, Lionsgate (except for old titles, which used PCM) and New Line also use DTS-HD MA.
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Bro Aiman is right, my Toshiba A35 bitstreamed two hd-dvd movies using DTS-HR (1.5 mbps), the DTS-MA logo won't light up, that's true for Yamaha and Denon AV receivers so I have a reason to believe that S350 can output DTS-MA via bitstream. The AV receiver will be able to detect the signal.
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post Jul 22 2008, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 21 2008, 07:23 PM)
So when DTS-MA suppose to light up? I thought it suppose to light up whenever it decodes DTS-MA signal. Only light up when receive DTS-MA already processed by amp?  hmm.gif
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It will light up when the signal received is DTS-MA and if it doesn't light up, then something is definitely wrong with the settings.
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post Jul 23 2008, 04:29 AM

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There's seems to be a lot argument and confusion here over the S350 blu-ray player, some say it can't output DTS-MA via bitstream but actually it should be, it can't decode DTS-MA and output it via LPCM like our PS3 but for those with an AV receiver that can decode all types of lossless audio codecs, the S350 will work fine. If there's an option to use bitstreaming for my PS3, I'll definitely use it, I'm pretty sure the sound quality will be better since there's less jitter via bitstreaming.

I think the summary written here is pretty good, less confusing for all.
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showpost.p...47&postcount=44
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post Jul 23 2008, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 23 2008, 05:21 AM)
I also challenge the fact that if indeed this S350 player is capable of doing h-res hd-ma, there wouldnt be a need for the $200 more expensive S550 because full hi-res bitstreaming or internal decoding, its still the same thing.
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Well, the reason is simple actually, the S550 is for people with an AV receiver which only accepts PCM signals via HDMI or it could accept an 8 channel analogue inputs. It might have built in flash memory but that's not the main selling point. I wouldn't mind spending a little more for S550 if it has better picture quality and faster loading times than S350. The S350's loading time is still a little bit behind the PS3, I do hope Panny's BD50 will perform much better and hopefully, it's not the same thing as the BD30 model. If they upgraded the BD30 model and taruh BD Live and package it as a new model, I'll be disappointed for sure.

QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 23 2008, 11:15 AM)
I ask to soon. I read the article and S350 can do DTS-MA bitstream. Now where can I find S350 with 240V input. I'm not buying US 120V.
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I guess from neigbouring countries like Thailand, Singapore or even Hong Kong. Not sure whether their prices will be as good as in the US though. USD399 is not cheap but at least, it's much lower than before.
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post Jul 23 2008, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 23 2008, 03:38 PM)
yea, i like the S350 as well..... blush.gif
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You don't like Panny BD50 meh? tongue.gif
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post Jul 23 2008, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 23 2008, 04:02 PM)
bro, u wan buy for me ar? tat price overkill lar
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I thought you got lubang to buy it from S'pore. brows.gif
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post Jul 24 2008, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 24 2008, 07:37 PM)
page 62 of S350's manual, point *5

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS350_US.pdf
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That's right, if the AV receiver can only accept LPCM and can't decode lossless audio codecs on board, it will get a DTS Core track from DTS-MA tracks via LPCM. I guess I didn't misunderstood this one from the beginning.

Anyone knows what solution will be used to deinterlace dvds when they're played on a S350? What Video DAC is used for BD? Any info on that?
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post Jul 25 2008, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 24 2008, 10:49 PM)
no one is bragging about the video processing chip sooo - nothing impressive i guess - not even an Anchor Bay video processor tongue.gif
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That's the problem, the video processing chip must be an all in one solution punya I guess.
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post Jul 26 2008, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 26 2008, 12:39 AM)
Yes!! rclxms.gif

Well, kind of. I have the digital copies from Jumper and Juno blu-rays transferred to my iPhone. tongue.gif
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Wah, jealous lo. tongue.gif
I dun even know what to do with the digital copies. doh.gif
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post Jul 28 2008, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:35 PM)
transfer to psp, ipods
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The digital copies are in WMV, rite? Never used them before.
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post Jul 28 2008, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 28 2008, 12:46 PM)
Hi guys. Finally recovered (again, it's been on and off since last week) from the worst fever ever. Never hit 39.5 degrees before. sweat.gif

There are 2 formats available for the digital copies, one is WMV for portable players that support the format.

The other is Apple's m4v, which can only be trasferred to your iPhone or iPOD only using iTunes and you must have a registered account with Apple. The digital copy can be transferred to up to 5 PCs/MACs.

Other than Juno and Jumper, I think AVP-R also have digital copies. Have fun guys! biggrin.gif
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BJ, Hitman and The Eye also have digital copies too, rite?
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post Jul 30 2008, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 29 2008, 11:04 AM)
Not bad... Just feels that the BD purchased giving you added value... biggrin.gif
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It will even be a much sweeter deal if they can include WMV HD version in the digital copy as well.
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post Jul 30 2008, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(yed @ Jul 30 2008, 07:11 PM)
sorry my mistake..i thought pana will be cheaper compared to sony.. rclxub.gif
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I believe the S350 is targetted at BD30's price range but feature wise, S350 is capable to be a Profile 2.0 player via a firmware update but BD30 will permanently be a Profile 1.1 player only. As for the PQ, it's very subjective unless we have two players side by side to compare but if the PQ is better looking that the PS3, then it's worth considering them provided they have decent load times with BD movies.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 31 2008, 09:23 AM)
sunauto, from wat i gather, macam ps3 still better looking pq hor
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To be honest, PS3 is still the winner if compared to S350 and BD30. The recent reviews pointed that BD50 is slightly better than PS3 in PQ but need to compare a few reviews first. If slightly better aje and need to pay RM3,999 for it, then I better stick to my PS3 first. This is Malaysia, our BD players are priced like BMWs. mad.gif

 

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