Yes your point is well taken. Its just that I want my BD player to have the features I want. Don't really care whether its also a game console or not

i think wat arremie truly wants is for the lights to light up

Is it too obvious what I really want? I don't even say it out loud
So are you the master or the apperentice
Always 2 they are. No more no less

Well, so far, I only read that it can't output DTS-MA via PCM, only Core. Well, don't forget the PS3 doesn't have a DTS-MA logo too and it can decode it internally.

Bro Aiman is right, my Toshiba A35 bitstreamed two hd-dvd movies using DTS-HR (1.5 mbps), the DTS-MA logo won't light up, that's true for Yamaha and Denon AV receivers so I have a reason to believe that S350 can output DTS-MA via bitstream. The AV receiver will be able to detect the signal.

So when DTS-MA suppose to light up? I thought it suppose to light up whenever it decodes DTS-MA signal. Only light up when receive DTS-MA already processed by amp?

It will light up when the signal received is DTS-MA and if it doesn't light up, then something is definitely wrong with the settings.

if you have an dts-hd ma receiver, its advisable to get a player that has the dts-hd : Advance Audio Out logo (players with this logo will do bitstreaming (check my previous posts for types of dts-hd logo). BUT BE EXTREMELY careful to confirm and reconfirm the player does not state CORE only. I think the only two players that actually do CORE only is the Sony S350 and the XBox 360 (talking about irony) - check the online manual too.

Anyhow the S550 is only RM330 more than the S350 and it does dts-hd ma decoding and has analogue 5.1 out too (according to initial specs)

it is not worth it to get a localized S350 at RM399 when you can order from bhphotos.com for much less and since 100% of your Amazon BD orders will be region 1 anyway

using Maybank's American Express - global e-shop service, you can order from major US online retailers (think amazon's cheaper BD player prices), get the player sent to Global e-shop's USA partners and they will ship the player to your door step at fraction of the shipping price. Add 25% as tax, I bet you can get the S550 sent to malaysia NETT less than RM3999

Panasonic is supposed to come out with a Profile 2.0 player too. Forgot the model - maybe D50. You might also want to wait for that one too. The more competition for standalone 2.0 bd players, the cheaper the price would be. I guess prices is not a problem to you but then, you can use the extra $$$ to buy more movies

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Added on July 22, 2008, 12:16 pmveli expensive liau RM3999 PS3 also 399USD - here not more than RM2999 typo izit ?

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Added on July 22, 2008, 12:17 pmhow do we know that when the receiver is showing dts-hd-ma - it dts-hd-ma that is pumped out of the receiver? I have a theory that its the player that tell what the receiver should display

why? i can built a BD player that can decode dts-hd-ma, but without DTS' logo, can I actually tell my bd player to instruct the receiver to display the dts-hd ma light?

or lets say that I pump a track that as the maximum sampling frequency and data rate of dts-hd-ma - that would be considered as lossless quality but without DTS' IP, i will not be able to get the receiver to display the dts-hd-ma light



This post has been edited by g5sim: Jul 22 2008, 12:21 PM

Dude your price is confusing. S550 RM330 more than S350? You mean USD330 or RM3300?
Anyway, I also have Panny BD30 to consider. This player can do all the bitstream thing that I want. I prefer Sony for convenience sake only so I can use the remote to control my LCD also. Sony blue color sure looks cool though

yes mah . RM330 = $100. the SRP for S350 = $399. SRP for S550 = $499 so its the different of RM330 (1USD = RM3.3<>)

g5sim, local price for bdp S 300 is 3999 , the 350 would be priced at 3999 as well

veli clever - gud luck to them

ordering from USA - region 1 player (amazon BD movies region 1)

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/734159/+100

nett to your door step from USA via courier = RM2020 only wawasan 2020

There's seems to be a lot argument and confusion here over the S350 blu-ray player, some say it can't output DTS-MA via bitstream but actually it should be, it can't decode DTS-MA and output it via LPCM like our PS3 but for those with an AV receiver that can decode all types of lossless audio codecs, the S350 will work fine. If there's an option to use bitstreaming for my PS3, I'll definitely use it, I'm pretty sure the sound quality will be better since there's less jitter via bitstreaming.

I think the summary written here is pretty good, less confusing for all.
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showpost.p...47&postcount=44

guess who is xboxboi ?

i understand what they rest are saying, i also know the fact that several people with dts hd ma receiver can see the dts hd ma light on, on their receiver. that is why they are saying that it is capable of doing full h-res hd-ma bitstreaming.

I was arguing the fact that Sony included 'Core' in the S350 manual. If the Core term is not included in the manual then, yes the player is capable of doing h-res hd-ma bitstreaming.

I also challenge the fact that if indeed this S350 player is capable of doing h-res hd-ma, there wouldnt be a need for the $200 more expensive S550 because full hi-res bitstreaming or internal decoding, its still the same thing.

The advantage of 550 is the ability to both bitstream and decode DTS-HD MA internally/onboard. The 350 can't, only bitstream. Like I said earlier, internally decoding players will be more expensive (with exception with the PS3).

I think the confusion over this 350 is when they set the player to decode internally, but it just can't. So, instead it only decodes the core track and send it as PCM.

The exact same thing happened with PS3 prior to the 2.35 firmware update. When you set the PS3 to decode internally, it will only decode the core because at that time the PS3 can't decode DTS-HD MA internally yet (though we got no choice because the PS3 can't bitsream HBR audio either).

Now if they set the 350 to send out bitstream (instead of trying to decode the DTS-HD MA internally), they will see that the lights on the AVR will light up.

Just my 3 cents.

Is this a fact or just what u think. I really want that S350.

Its suppose to be a fact

I ask to soon. I read the article and S350 can do DTS-MA bitstream. Now where can I find S350 with 240V input. I'm not buying US 120V.

arremie, buy in msia lor rm 3999, still within ur budget

rx is correct. RM1 to reach your budget is the power supply issue is that bigger deal

and again i would like to remind you that - localized S350 might play REGION 3 movies only - so your US Amazon titles how ?

Region 3 is only for DVDs. The BDs are the same as US, region A, so no worries there. I'm sure you already have a dedicated HDMI DVD player, Arremie.