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post Feb 28 2008, 02:36 PM, updated 18y ago

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:rock: not too shabby i must admit. Can we expect cheaper 2.0 players from LG, Samsung or Funai? but then $400 is still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive than $149 wink.gif

Spec highlights:

7.1 analogue out
TrueHD
DTS HD Master decoding (SP550) tongue.gif - (SP350 via bits stream)
BD-JO
BD-Live ready

sounds promising - now we need full feature BD-J and BD-Live titles to test the players wink.gif



http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/6831...ay_Players.html

Sony has just announced their first line of Profile 2 Blu-Ray players, the BDP-S350 and BDP-S550. The Profile 2 players will be the first stand alone Blu-Ray players by Sony to feature web coonectivity and compatibility with external storage devices.

These features are already present in Sony's Playstation 3 models, but were until now unavailable in a stand alone Blu-Ray player. The S350 is scheduled for release in the summer while the S550 will not be out until this fall. IGN notes an interesting tidbit: The features recently adopted by Sony for their stand alone Blu-Ray players were present in most HD-DVD players at launch. We're not trying to make a statement. Just sayin'.

The S350 is expected to retail for around $400 while the S550 will come in around $500.

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SONY ADDS NEW BLU-RAY DISC PLAYERS WITH ADVANCED INTERACTIVITY
New Models Feature Ethernet Port for Interactive Functionality and Easy Firmware Updates

LAS VEGAS, Feb. 26, 2008 - Sony updated its Blu-ray Disc player line today with two new models that will be capable of accessing advanced interactive features such as BonusView and BD-Live.

The BDP-S350 and BDP-S550 models both support BonusView (Picture-in-Picture) featured on some of the new Blu-ray Disc theatrical releases. The BDP-S350 model is BD-Live ready featuring an Ethernet port for an easy firmware update and access to Internet-based interactive content features. The BSP-S550 is BonusView and BD-Live capable when it ships.

Both models also feature an external port for local storage, so users can add optional storage device. The BDP-S550 ships with a 1GB storage device.

"Building on the exceptional picture and sound quality of previous players, Sony's next-generation Blu-ray Disc models bring exciting interactive features to life and offer consumers a ground-breaking experience," said Chris Fawcett, vice president of marketing for Sony Electronics' Home Product Division. "These new devices bring home movie experience beyond the cinema and into a whole new realm of entertainment."

The players feature 1080/60p and 24p True Cinema output. They are compatible with most standard DVDs and feature 1080p upscaling through an HDMI connection to capable HDTV sets, improving the picture performance of existing DVD libraries.

The models offer 7.1 channel Dolby® TrueHD and Dolby® Digital Plus decoding and bit-stream output, as well as dts®-HD High Resolution Audio and Master Audio bit-stream output. The BDP-S550 adds dts-HD High Resolution Audio and dts-HD Master Audio decoding as well as 7.1 channel analog audio output.

The players support AVCHD discs encoded with x.v.Color™ (xvYCC) technology, an international standard for wide color space reproduction. The standard expands the current data range of video by about 1.8 times, allowing the players to output more natural and vivid colors similar to what the human eye can actually see. The players also feature compatibility with an array of video formats, including BD-R/RE (BDMV and BDAV modes), DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW, CD, CD-R/RW (CD-DA format), and JPEG on DVD//CD recordable media.

The new models feature a slim design with reduced depth and height compared to previous models matching Sony's new home-theater-in-a-box systems, the HT-SS2300 and HT-CT100 T-SS2300, also announced today. Optimized for Blu-ray Disc™, the new component systems feature three 1080p compatible HDMI™ inputs making them the perfect match for a Full high-definition home theater when connected to a new Sony BRAVIA® 1080p HDTV.

The new BDP-S350 ships this summer for about $400 and BDP-S550 will be available this fall for about $500. They will be offered at Sony Style stores, online at sonystyle.com, at military base exchanges, and at authorized retailers nationwide.

http://gizmodo.com/360642/bdp+s350-and-s55...blu+ray-players

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http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/comment/sony...ay-disc-player/


July 19, 2008: Although Sony has announced its next generation Blu-ray player, the BDP-S350 as early as February, it is only now that the player has started arriving in US retail stores. For those who have been waiting for the BDP-S350, the wait may well be worth it after all since like we reported before this player is fully compatible with various disc formats including BD-R/RE, DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW, CD, CD-R/RW and JPEG on DVD or CD recordable media.

In addition, the BDP-S350 also features BonusView (Profile v1.1), BD-Live (Profile v2.0) and Sony’s Precision Cinema HD Upscale feature which is a technology that converts standard-definition signals (4801) to 1080p. These signals are then outputted in full HD equivalent resolution signal to 1080p TVs through HDMI port. The player also has an Ethernet port and can handle up to 70.1 channels decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DD+ along with 7.1 channels bitstream output that includes DTS-Ma.

Finally, Sony has added an environmental footprint on the BDP-S350 to make the product a little more environmentally friendly. Sony has reduced the overall unit size of the player by 55 percent, reduced the packing material by 52 percent and reduced its total weight by 38 percent. With this, Sony was able to reduce the CO2 emissions when shipping the BDP-S350. Likewise, Sony has also made the player’s energy consumption a little less than the usual.

The BDP-S350 is available now in Sony retail and various online stores for around $399.99.

lol bhphotos excepting orders : http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5506...isc_Player.html

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Updated October 2, 2008:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/914/914553p1.html

Sony Cuts Price of S350 Blu-ray Player

The first Sony player priced cheaper than the PS3.
by Scott Lowe

September 29, 2008 - Sony's BD-live enabled Blu-ray player models, the BDP-S350 and BDP-S550, are a relatively pricey commodity. At launch, the Sony BDP-S550 was priced at $499.99 and the BDP-S350 at $399.99, but now Sony has dropped the price of the latter model by $100, making it the first standalone Blu-ray player to have a lower price point than the PlayStation 3. The S350 is now available on Sony's online store and at retailers nationwide for a new low price of $299.99. For that price, consumers get a BD-Live ready player with full 1080p resolution, and 24p True Cinema video output. The player also decodes Dolby TrueHD signals and upscales DVDs to 1080p resolution.

Unfortunately, the S350 requires a wired Ethernet connection in order to utilize its BD-Live features, so wireless users are out of luck without additional hardware. The player outputs via one rear mounted component video connection, as well as HDMI.

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 29 2008, 10:35 AM)
sammy bd player in spore less than 600 sgd, msia selling for 4k
i think if its selling for 700sgd ,i might go get one and replace the ps3
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you mean the BD1400 which is a 1.0 profile model that got sued with a class action lawsuit in the USA? RM800 oso fikir 12 kali wor sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Feb 28 2008, 11:36 PM)
Bro g5sim sudah tukar gambar so fast, now supporting Blu-Ray camp liao. Hahaha. Toshiba sure will be very sad.  laugh.gif

Even though the players are priced from USD400 to USD500, our local punya BDP-S300 already RM2,900 and I bet this model will be priced in the range of RM3K to RM5K. Hai ........ If it's less than RM2K, I'll definitely angkat the top model. The design looks nice for a blu-ray player and with profile 2.0 ready, I guess that's put it on par with Panasonic upcoming blu-ray player, also profile 2.0 ready. I wonder whether there are other new profile revisions in the future. I very takut liao, because the blu-ray camp got macam-macam punya profiles which can cause blu-ray compatibility problems.
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no lah - just hihglighting that they will be selling a player with specs already have on HD DVD two years ago the only problem is, Sony will be selling them at a similar price Toshiba sold their players two years ago tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2008, 07:57 PM

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Best Denki Mines still demoing HD DVD - but standard dvd source on HD DVD player lol
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post Mar 7 2008, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 7 2008, 08:06 PM)
wah lau, still not on the HD bandwagon ar??
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actually just requested my brother to buy one xbox Add On $49.99 from USA. See if he manages to do so or not.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 8 2008, 11:19 AM)
tv ler? not buying?
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you ah! keep pushing to buy TV! i dont like watching TV. told you so. One of the reasons why i requested my bro to get me the add on for my computer tongue.gif


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QUOTE(scottiebabie @ Mar 8 2008, 03:08 PM)
remember Bluray is still in its production infancy. AFAIK the main diff btwn reg DVDPs & Blu Players are the blue laser & different chipsets. we all know how much chips come down in price & blues laser mechanisms shouldnt be much more than normal laser mechanisms. i have no doubt in 1 yr or maybe slightly longer, prices for Bluray will drop wayyy below usd200. IMO ofcos
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BD is not on its production infancy. 10th of millions BD drives have been produced! This is way more than DVD when it was first introduced tongue.gif


Added on March 9, 2008, 5:49 pm
QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 9 2008, 09:41 AM)
g5sim, go for HD projector!
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and use my balcony sliding panels as my screen? tongue.gif


Added on March 9, 2008, 5:50 pm
QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 9 2008, 01:17 AM)
so u wanna watch hd dvd on monitor????
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yes - dun wanna do so at first - but u keep pushing so i ordered the add on laugh.gif

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http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/comment/sony...ay-disc-player/


Although Sony has announced its next generation Blu-ray player, the BDP-S350 as early as February, it is only now that the player has started arriving in US retail stores. For those who have been waiting for the BDP-S350, the wait may well be worth it after all since like we reported before this player is fully compatible with various disc formats including BD-R/RE, DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW, CD, CD-R/RW and JPEG on DVD or CD recordable media.

In addition, the BDP-S350 also features BonusView (Profile v1.1), BD-Live (Profile v2.0) and Sony’s Precision Cinema HD Upscale feature which is a technology that converts standard-definition signals (4801) to 1080p. These signals are then outputted in full HD equivalent resolution signal to 1080p TVs through HDMI port. The player also has an Ethernet port and can handle up to 70.1 channels decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DD+ along with 7.1 channels bitstream output that includes DTS-Ma.

Finally, Sony has added an environmental footprint on the BDP-S350 to make the product a little more environmentally friendly. Sony has reduced the overall unit size of the player by 55 percent, reduced the packing material by 52 percent and reduced its total weight by 38 percent. With this, Sony was able to reduce the CO2 emissions when shipping the BDP-S350. Likewise, Sony has also made the player’s energy consumption a little less than the usual.

The BDP-S350 is available now in Sony retail and various online stores for around $399.99.


Added on July 20, 2008, 2:00 ampls take note that this baby does not support DTS HD Master that all universal BD titles seem to have.

it does LCPM and TrueHD via bitstream. Both tracks are not available in Universal titles.

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jul 21 2008, 01:25 AM)
If I'm not wrong, it does bistream DTS-MA.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1046952
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they say it does 'bitstream dts-hd and dts-hd ma because their receiver's hd-ma light is on. i am arguing that the light is on because the hd-ma's Core track was bitstreamed to the receiver not the lossless hd-ma track entirely.

if the S350 can do 100% hd-ma lossless why doesnt it just include the hd-ma logo, instead it has the dts-hd (advanced audio out) logo?

furthermore, S350 manual says ' its hd-ma Core only
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 21 2008, 01:43 PM)
Thanks dude. You answer my question even before I posted it  laugh.gif
You Jedi or something?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif


Added on July 21, 2008, 1:46 pmAnyway, looks like I'm ok if I go with player that can bitstream only since my 663 can decode them all.
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if you have an dts-hd ma receiver, its advisable to get a player that has the dts-hd : Advance Audio Out logo (players with this logo will do bitstreaming (check my previous posts for types of dts-hd logo). BUT BE EXTREMELY careful to confirm and reconfirm the player does not state CORE only. I think the only two players that actually do CORE only is the Sony S350 and the XBox 360 (talking about irony) - check the online manual too.

Anyhow the S550 is only RM330 more than the S350 and it does dts-hd ma decoding and has analogue 5.1 out too (according to initial specs)

it is not worth it to get a localized S350 at RM399 when you can order from bhphotos.com for much less and since 100% of your Amazon BD orders will be region 1 anyway tongue.gif

using Maybank's American Express - global e-shop service, you can order from major US online retailers (think amazon's cheaper BD player prices), get the player sent to Global e-shop's USA partners and they will ship the player to your door step at fraction of the shipping price. Add 25% as tax, I bet you can get the S550 sent to malaysia NETT less than RM3999 tongue.gif

Panasonic is supposed to come out with a Profile 2.0 player too. Forgot the model - maybe D50. You might also want to wait for that one too. The more competition for standalone 2.0 bd players, the cheaper the price would be. I guess prices is not a problem to you but then, you can use the extra $$$ to buy more movies cool.gif cool.gif wink.gif


Added on July 22, 2008, 12:16 pm
QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 21 2008, 02:26 PM)
S350 shud be rm 3999
panny 30 in spore sellin for 799 sgd
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veli expensive liau RM3999 PS3 also 399USD - here not more than RM2999 sad.gif typo izit ?


Added on July 22, 2008, 12:17 pm
QUOTE(sunauto @ Jul 22 2008, 02:54 AM)
It will light up when the signal received is DTS-MA and if it doesn't light up, then something is definitely wrong with the settings.
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how do we know that when the receiver is showing dts-hd-ma - it dts-hd-ma that is pumped out of the receiver? I have a theory that its the player that tell what the receiver should display laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

why? i can built a BD player that can decode dts-hd-ma, but without DTS' logo, can I actually tell my bd player to instruct the receiver to display the dts-hd ma light?

or lets say that I pump a track that as the maximum sampling frequency and data rate of dts-hd-ma - that would be considered as lossless quality but without DTS' IP, i will not be able to get the receiver to display the dts-hd-ma light



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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 22 2008, 12:34 PM)
Dude your price is confusing. S550 RM330 more than S350? You mean USD330 or RM3300?  laugh.gif
Anyway, I also have Panny BD30 to consider. This player can do all the bitstream thing that I want. I prefer Sony for convenience sake only so I can use the remote to control my LCD also. Sony blue color sure looks cool though  tongue.gif
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yes mah . RM330 = $100. the SRP for S350 = $399. SRP for S550 = $499 so its the different of RM330 (1USD = RM3.3<>) tongue.gif
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veli clever - gud luck to them

ordering from USA - region 1 player (amazon BD movies region 1)

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/734159/+100

nett to your door step from USA via courier = RM2020 only wawasan 2020 wink.gif
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jul 23 2008, 04:29 AM)
There's seems to be a lot argument and confusion here over the S350 blu-ray player, some say it can't output DTS-MA via bitstream but actually it should be, it can't decode DTS-MA and output it via LPCM like our PS3 but for those with an AV receiver that can decode all types of lossless audio codecs, the S350 will work fine. If there's an option to use bitstreaming for my PS3, I'll definitely use it, I'm pretty sure the sound quality will be better since there's less jitter via bitstreaming.

I think the summary written here is pretty good, less confusing for all.
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showpost.p...47&postcount=44
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i understand what they rest are saying, i also know the fact that several people with dts hd ma receiver can see the dts hd ma light on, on their receiver. that is why they are saying that it is capable of doing full h-res hd-ma bitstreaming.

I was arguing the fact that Sony included 'Core' in the S350 manual. If the Core term is not included in the manual then, yes the player is capable of doing h-res hd-ma bitstreaming.

I also challenge the fact that if indeed this S350 player is capable of doing h-res hd-ma, there wouldnt be a need for the $200 more expensive S550 because full hi-res bitstreaming or internal decoding, its still the same thing.

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 23 2008, 12:10 PM)
arremie, buy in msia lor tongue.gif rm 3999, still within ur budget
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rx is correct. RM1 to reach your budget is the power supply issue is that bigger deal

and again i would like to remind you that - localized S350 might play REGION 3 movies only - so your US Amazon titles how ?
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 23 2008, 12:39 PM)
Region 3 is only for DVDs. The BDs are the same as US, region A, so no worries there. I'm sure you already have a dedicated HDMI DVD player, Arremie. biggrin.gif
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what if BDA all of the sudden says - region coding takes affect tonight at midnight EST ? now that there is no competition for hires optical?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 23 2008, 12:55 PM)
g5sim, u think too much
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okie okie - dun think = i go take shower and go to sleep tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jul 23 2008, 01:58 PM)
Well, the reason is simple actually, the S550 is for people with an AV receiver which only accepts PCM signals via HDMI or it could accept an 8 channel analogue inputs. It might have built in flash memory but that's not the main selling point. I wouldn't mind spending a little more for S550 if it has better picture quality and faster loading times than S350. The S350's loading time is still a little bit behind the PS3, I do hope Panny's BD50 will perform much better and hopefully, it's not the same thing as the BD30 model. If they upgraded the BD30 model and taruh BD Live and package it as a new model, I'll be disappointed for sure.
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But then, according to the post by Thalium at hideftdigest - the S350 can bitstream dts-hd-ma FULLY. if your receiver is capable of doing PCM via HDMI 1.30 then there S350 will do just fine. So basically, the additional $200 for S550 is for the 5.1 analogue out. I hope the connectors are made of platinum wink.gif
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jul 24 2008, 09:25 AM)
RX, I think he still misunderstood what PCM and bitstream is all about.

An AVR with internally/onboard decoding of DTS-HD MA is required to pair with the S350, because the S350 can't send DTS-HD MA as PCM, only bitstream.
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page 62 of S350's manual, point *5

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS350_US.pdf



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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jul 24 2008, 08:46 PM)
That's right, if the AV receiver can only accept LPCM and can't decode lossless audio codecs on board, it will get a DTS Core track from DTS-MA tracks via LPCM. I guess I didn't misunderstood this one from the beginning.

Anyone knows what solution will be used to deinterlace dvds when they're played on a S350? What Video DAC is used for BD? Any info on that?
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no one is bragging about the video processing chip sooo - nothing impressive i guess - not even an Anchor Bay video processor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 24 2008, 11:17 PM)
Point *5 only saying IF your amp does not decode HD audio format. So IF your amp does decode HD format....no problemo. Bitstreaming all the way then tongue.gif
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if you ignore 'DTS CORE' at the audio codec part, then, yes tongue.gif

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