Pictures pictures of 2 male joeys that will be going to their new homes soon.

Hehehe... they are now 45 days out of pouch. So fast... another 15 days for them before they leave their parents.... and also leave me LOL.

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Added on March 20, 2008, 12:16 amHahaha... what a nice gf, I also want someone to surprise me with a glider hahahah.

Save your money, buy nice things for your glidee. Remember gliderSLURP haahahah.....

Good that you have trimmed the nails.

Marking you loh.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Mar 20 2008, 05:08 PM

Hahah... you will see them soon.

You can find at Pet Safari, Cold Storage... Petsmore.... 1 can is about RM3.50 I think... or cheaper, can't remember coz I buy from different places each time so my prices all mixed up.

It really does look like cooked shredded chicken meat. Actually, I didn't buy the catfood for my gliders heheheeh.... it's for my blue tongue skinks. So since I had it, tried on my gliders. They seem to love it.

For veggies, I normally blend into a puree, then they will only eat hahaha.

My gliders fat. People say they look big heheheh. But now they are getting ample exercise from their Wodent Wheel every night.

Wah, great to know. Did you get the Wodent Wheel?

Never buy anything? LOL.... you smsed me while I was napping.... well, ok... wasn't a nap. I was asleep till 6pm hahahah.

Hahaha.... you can make an appointment to neuter him soon.


Small lah... underage.... you compare with my pics.... my joeys about 45 days old in that pics.... jitshiong's joeys around 4 weeks....

Where is the place? A shop?

Pity.... well, the worst part is the diet.... catfood mainly. They will sure have a short lifespan later.

Teddy memang small glider hahah.... but he is the most adorable.

Can take. I always take, handphone lah. If you get caught, they will chase you out. I always pura pura make calls while I snap pics.

The itinerary sounds ok. So will PLC provide us with tables and chairs? Which area will the gathering take place? Is it the back?

Teddy is smaller but healthy.... yah, is better for Dr Jenny to check if she can do it on him or not.

OH yah, bout canned mealworms.... is not for fish.... don't get the one for fish hehehe.... some people make this mistake. It is for hamsters by Bengy brand.

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Anyway, this Saturday(29/03) is gonna be our mini gathering at Mid Valley. Remember to bring your gliders and cameras hahahah.....

Time: Let's meet around 1pm?

Who to call? Well, you guys can contact me 012-2274728

Of course it is on. Anyway, my number is somewhere here. So for those who are going tomorrow, call me up.

Aww... such a small turn up today.

Anyway, our lil glider gathering was really really mini size LOL.

The people that came a were ggMing, Reanne, Emino, Bonai....... and of course me. LOL. But then, we did raise awareness about gliders, brought a little crowd. We sort of tumpang Petster Magazine's booth for our little get together.

I think Emino has pictures.

Hahaha.... I think he found out bout pet shack through adpost....
Anyway, we were like glider info center today. So many came to ask ask, hope they will come for the suggie gathering at Pet Safari.

Billie don't like me.

Oh, you missed one funny incident just now. Teddy doesn't like William, the Petsters editor. Crabbed and bit him LOL..... 1st time Teddy crab and use his teeth on someone. Weird.... macam your Billie and me.

Really?
LOL.... but I never seen your mom or sis b4 that so dunno who heheheh.... next time when you got space and time, keep a pair lah. Nice to have

Anyway, nice to see you there. I couldn't recognize you coz you changed your hair style.

Emino and Bonai are Malay.... LOL.... actually, most of the owners here are Malays I think. So shouldn't be shy lah.

LOL.... famous? Wah... what have you been telling your family lah? hehehehe....

Ah? Who ah? LOL.... yesterday got many also came with gf and bf, heheheh.... anyway, come for our glider gathering yah. Come join our community.

Wah, you confuse people lah..... that pic is not of him and his gf hahahaha....

POssible. Of course can bond but it would be slower coz 6 months is almost adult already. There is no need to get a joey before gathering mah heheheh....

Getting a glider may be tempting coz of their sociable and smart nature, but yah, ask questions and think first before getting. You're doing it right

1) You need to bond with your glider. It doesn't happen overnight. It takes weeks to months. And it requires consistent handling, playing and pouch bonding. We are able to have such friendly gliders coz most of us here bond with them for at least 8 hours in the bonding pouch during the day. That means hanging the pouch around our necks and go along with our daily routine. This makes the glider get familiar with our smell, voice and touch. Then you need to spend like 2 to 3 hours as minimum playtime. This is handling, petting, calling it's name, letting it roam about your body.... if you can't do all this daily, then the joey would go untame and lonely too if it were kept as a single glider.

2) Answered already but then if you can only spend 2 to 3 hours a day by playing and bonding, then your joey would not be as close to you.

3) They eat fruits. 75% fruits. Only certain high quality cat/dogfood can be used and only 1 to 2 pieces a day. Cat/dogfood is not a staple, it is only a supplement. The 1st page has all the info you need actually.... so do read up. Some of your questions are like our repeated answers in the 1st page.

4) All gliders will pee and poo where they like. Peeing is also a part of scent marking and mine does that to me. Us glider owners do not mind, I do get disgusted faces when I people that I am my glider's toilet. They are not dogs, so you can't tell them to pee and poo on command. In cages, some gliders would do it everywhere, some would do at a specific location.... but peeing and pooping on our bodies once a while is considered ok.

5) Gliders are arboreal. So we hang the bowls. We use stainless steel metal bowls that comes with holders, easy and hygienic.

6) No wood shavings. Our wood shavings in Malaysia are of those that are not really suitable for small animals. Hamsters living on them is ok coz their lifespan is like 2 to 3 years.... but a glider? 10 to 15 years.... so it can cause a lot of damage to their health. Newspaper, Breeder's Celect and Healthy Pet (both recycled paper litter), Litter Star, corn cobs are ok to use. Now I don't use any substrate anymore. My cage has a metal tray, everyday I wash off the pee and poo.

It may be pitiful to see them at petshops... but if we buy them off the petshop, they would just bring more joeys for sale and more would suffer. If we stop buying from these unethical petshops, they would realize that they got no sales, then they would stop selling joeys. This has happened at a petshop near my home and I am happy about it.

Ikano the joeys there are all underage. That is why tame. They have no idea what is danger, what is safe. The breeder pulled them away from their moms. So poor thing.... not independent yet wan. Anyone who buys joeys that small have a risk of getting a joey with poor health. Underage joeys are defenseless, so that is why no bites.... So the word is not really tame.... more like they have no idea and are blur/clueless....

No.... I would say Flexarium is not permanent. Why? It is thin nylon material. Gliders can chew to escape. Most of us would use the Flexarium as a traveling cage or boarding cage but never as a permanent home.

Bird cage expensive? LOL.... Flexarium is not hardy and expensive. You can get the basic cage set from Pet Shack. Rm160 only, so cheap already coz it comes with a water bottle, a bonding pouch, a sleeping pouch and breeder celect bedding.

Flexarium is a type of nylon but not strong enough against glider's teeth. The type of caging is actually more for reptiles coz reptiles don't chew and bite.

Is not the matter of training. Underage, they leave their mom too early, so they do not get enough milk. This causes their body to grow at a slow pace, making them prone to getting infection or falling sick. They would require extreme care, have a mild heat source and have to be fed with milk. There are only 2 types of pet milk which is ok for gliders, which is Pets Own and Just Born.... but it is not easy to get at every petshop. Some end up dying, so that is a big heart ache. I met a few ex-glider owners.... they joeys die in like a month to less than a year coz of the food, and also growth. Malnutrition....

The staff there have little knowledge. All their knowledge comes from the "breeder" who is breeding more for money lah, he advices them to feed apples and dogfood. Also the glider food sold there are weird.... no one oversea uses it too and the brand is unknown. So I rarely trust their knowledge on pets.

HAhaah.... yah loh. Also Malay mah heheheh.

I also suppose to go Aussie to study... but then decided to finish my degree here. No one jaga my gliders heheheh.... and also my other pets.

Aussie is strict, they even have no hamsters and gerbils, illegal pets to have LOL.

Sometimes we also have to see the size of the joey than rely on the age given by the breeder. Like yesterday at the expo, someone brought a 2 month old joey that he bought near my home, goodness.... so tiny, fur sparse also... like that 2 months.

Pet Safari selling 3 week old joeys, but they tell customers 2 months old.

So ah.... must know bout size and age as well. 7 weeks is still alright, better than 6 weeks old but then the best age is always 8 weeks onwards.

Names ah.... I name my gliders after Aboriginal terms.... I got Kiah, Kapi, Kimba.... used to have a male called Jarrah but then he was killed by my cat.

Their names and meanings:

Kiah = from a beautiful place
Kapi = Moon
Kimba = bush fire
Jarrah = Eucalyptus tree

My breeding pair is named:
Naya = mother
Pama = man

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Added on March 30, 2008, 11:58 pmWahhhh.... that is seriously too young man..... why you buy? Should wait lah.... if a joey can't poo itself, that is seriously too young

Also, that young would need high protein milk in order to grow well. If can't poo itself, I think it is not even 7 weeks OOP.... maybe younger. Could be just OOP only.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Mar 30 2008, 11:58 PM

Tail start to kembang at around 4 weeks old.... 2 months old is very kembang.... but I just worried when you said slightly bigger than thumb and still need milk. Coz my 2 month old joeys never climb on their mother's back anymore and never drink milk anymore. Fully independent and eat solid food.... so..... could be the seller is not giving you correct info lah.

Although many sellers may appear trustworthy, but they know how to talk you into believing them coz you are a new glider owner. It's like how many fell for our gliders yesterday at the pet expo. If I told them sugar gliders are easy pets, can live in hamster cages and drink milk, they would believe me coz they are all new towards gliders.

Well, you sudah beli.... if the guy is trusted, you can always exchange or return till it gets older.... but if you still nak jaga, then you better head to Pet Shack, they are selling sugar glider joey milk that is imported from Aussie and is for joeys, contains high protein.

A joey would spend 8 weeks in pouch since birth, then another 8 weeks out of pouch. So the joey would be 4 months old lah during this time.

But many sellers are taking the easy way by just saying 8 weeks, 7 weeks, 2 months.... coz if a mass breeder, you think he/she got record all the dates of when each breeding pair's joeys come out of pouch? So alot just agak agak, once they see the joey eat or try solid food, they automatically think 2 months OOP already.

Hi Cukin, welcome yah. Nice to meet you yesterday.

Yes, most gliders like dried fruits. Good as treats for them during play and bonding.

Anyway, we mostly count their age when they start to OOP like what Bonai just replied.

The joey may be stunted in growth if the breeder did not give proper healthy food to the adults, or the joey was separated too early, maybe earlier than 6 weeks OOP.... so the body size is small and fragile. But then like what Reanne and the others would say, pictures are better.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Mar 31 2008, 01:15 AM

All female joeys would have pouches already. The right age is not indicated by the pouch, is indicated by size and fluffiness of their tails.

Come along for the gathering lah, I'm sure it would poison more people into getting gliders but then at the same time we get to educate people on the general care.

Marmosets are not good pets. Any primate makes bad pets coz to me, they are too human like. And during breeding season, their hormone levels go crazy, making them aggressive sometimes. I saw this when I working at the zoo.