mmm... I wanna play with you guys. But don't have Hamachi or know how to use it even though I know what it does.

Oh And I am only available from 10pm to 12am. Weekend +1hr~2hr.

How come you guys need hamachi? I try getting to the online lobby via SOASE and the ping was only 130+.

Thinking about doing multiplayer after I am done with the current game.

Err cos we are all malaysian and we get better connetion through hamachi.

Connection is the same even in game online lobby because it doesn't utilise a game server. The host becomes the server and the players the clients. It means we get good connections if everyone who joins the game are Malaysians and we get bad ping if we join games hosted by Americans.

Haih,i only can get my copy of Sins on next week.

Why EB Games Aus like that one?

Information overload! I tried to play this game and I think I like it, but there's so much to learn that I already have no mood to even start the game

1st thing you build on your planet is the capital ship factory. After that you get free capital ship when the factory is up.

Build resource excavators on crystal and gold asteroids.

Build 1 or 2 scouts frigates. Right click on the auto explore command (the looking glass icon, lower right when you click on the ship)

Build like maybe 5 to 7. Cheapest assault frigates (TEC:Cobalts, Vasari:Skemishers or Advent: Disciples).

When you capital ship & frigates are completed go adventuring to nearest asteroids as they are likely to be lightly defended. Kill the defenders. Colonize. Repeat process. Keep on adding frigates to this fleet.

Expect to have maybe like 20-30 basic frigates I mentioned above after you you have 3-4 new world to your dominion.


ON NON FLEET DEVELOPMENT
Mean while upgrade your planet population (the green back ground human icon). Because you get money from taxing your populance. The more populance the more money.

Build defense on your border planets. Build cheapest 1st. Like gun platform. It will slow down enemy. 2nd priority is strike craft hanger if you have the resource.

Keep making frigates.

Make your civilian & military labs. Concertrate research on techs that give you more resource and complement you current fleet.

Check your money, metal and crystal balance. You might have certain number of surplus. Exchange these surplus comodities with the ones you lack. Never idle too long without utilizing you resources unless you are planning major purchase.

Plan to save some money to get capital ship when you are confident with your numbers frigates around (30-40).

Plan to save some resource to get labs and techs. Different race has different priority to tech advances, if you are going for military confrontation (typical TEC) upgrading your armory is the way to go. IMO best upgrade the weapon techs of a particular ship types that your fleets has in quantity. For spamming a particular ship type (LRM if you are TEC), resource bonus tech are awesome.

When ever you are attacked. Make more frigate ships because there sure to come a 2nd time. Your fleets are by far the best defense to the ambuition of the AIs. The planetary defense are just there to delay them so your fleets has to match their in quantity if not quality.


On DIPLOMACY
If you play on against more than 1 AI. Make an effort to please either one by completing the mission they you. Thier opinion of you will rise from 0% to 60% in about 2-3 missions. At this point they we be nicer and ask for peace treaty and trade relations. If you neglect this part of the game the AIs will have made peace with each other and this will lead them to gang up on you.

Usually mission are 1)asking for resource 2) Attack enemy ships 3)Attack instalation. The best is when they ask for resources give them b4 time is up. When they ask you to attack anything (craft, civilian or military installtion) go to their lightly defended planets (thanks to your scouting you shouild know year those are). If I am not mistaken, trade ships, and single strike craft count as ONE craft within the mission requirement, so thats easy to achieve too.

ENGAGING THE ENEMY
If their fleet is bigger. Consider running. Maybe they have an Undefended planet, which you can attack and maybe the big fleet will split and chase you instead of killing your planet.

If its about the same size, same num of capital ship. Concentrate fire (all your ship) on the AIs capital ship. Once the capital ship is down the lil frigate will become coward and run.

I find that mixture of size types help alot especially in the mid game. Those long range frigates are awesome. Those heavy armored cruiser are awesome too. The support ships that can repair other ships are great also.

Make an effort to slow down the game ( press -) and learn all the basic control of the GUI. Learn the effects of your capital ships, frigates and cruiser ability. Learn to other races too.

Trust me, the more you play the more like you get the hang of it. This is my 1st RTS since dune emperor.... I know how you are feeling.

I hope that helps. I beat 3 Hard AI with this doctorine. And good luck.


EDITTED SOME GRAMMAR AND MISPELLINGS

This post has been edited by Abu.Umar: Apr 18 2008, 02:55 PM

The most enjoyable part of this game is to fight against hummies and not AI.

u're slightly different than me, at the beginning u're same as me, at the middle, i focus on research either one of the colonize planet reseach, then build 2 military lab to get the LRM ASAP then build ton of it and rush.

Lol,you'll be alright once you get a rough BO.

This game is awesome.

Ahhhhh.... Still need to wait for 1 week.

Thanks. I'll try that out soon. But most guides i read put a lot of emphasis on long range missle frigates..
What's a BO?

Yup they all do.

I think BO means body odour if you have good BO your sins will be good if not then your fleet will be small as they do not come to you.

Fuji u up for a game tonight?

Would be around 945 to be save

eh record your games la & post it here so that we all can watch..

I'd join too but my internet only will be OK after 20th ( I am at work now). I don't even have phone line at home now, because got cable damage in my area!

wait I don't have Hamachi.. Where to get hamachi?

https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/vpn.asp

they use LRM to get first hit, and LRM dont need to adjust themself too much to hit the target as their weapon range r super far, and also it is cheap, it is the best defenses during the early game.

Er... Build order?

Hey guys,i very pening with the game edy.Actually the game is?My friend give me the copies and i Install it,and i play single player?It doesnt has story mode eh?

no single player campaign
basically sandbox game, u play against AI if alone, or multiplayer with others

lol....same avatar, almost the same name and we are AMD user!!!

better prepare urself to throw keyboard sometimes when u hope ur fleet can move a little bit faster to reach the planet that hv been atk by enemy

no story mode, if hv, i think u'll hv to ply it for thousand years. u ply the huge map with multiple stars, ply with 2 ally and other enemy ally together, and u'll get a fun game, ply about 2 or 3 days this game is the best game to waste time.