haiz, i next week gonna start attending drawing class... >< coz i heard those without arts basics will struggle during their 1st year. engineering drawing isnt offered in my school. ><

do be aware that architecture courses normally include art classes in 1st year. if u think u could brush up ur skills during that time, dont waste ur money paying for additional art classes. but of course, go ahead if it's free .

LOL it's not FOC of course, i used to attend the arts class b4. perhaps i'll decide to go for arts class or not after getting my spm result, i want to learn arts basic skills >< as some private Uni require portfolio T.T haha... private is my back up, hopefully can get into matrikulasi.

I'm totally agree with u.
especially this ' currently underpaid, most fresh grad architects in malaysia are still willing to work because of the reward and satisfaction of design! '

lol.. which my pay is only 1.5k in Penang as an assists. Archi.

btw, i just posted my documents and form to utm... i put UTM as my first choice hope that can be called up for interview..

Thanks for previous advise...

i wanna know wor... arts and math, which one is more emphasized? i thot calculation is for QS ?

The course of study is long and hard, no doubt. The drop-out rate is also quite high.
The working life is also hard and the reward is not really more attractive than other fields, not in the first few years anyway. It could be rewarding when you are more established and have your own practice. If it is any consolation, architects are one of the top earners among all the professions, that is, for those who have made a name for themselves.

The rewards or motivation, as I see it:

1. The course of study is hard, very taxing, but interesting. It covers many different fields and it is an enriching experience.

2. The satisfaction of being able to see your design turned into reality.

3. Being able to call the shots in a building project, since the architect is the leader of the building team. But the position carries with it heavy responsibilities and liabilities.

3. By virtue of their training, architects are more sensitive to aesthetics and the built environment than others and are able to appreciate the physical world better.

Greatest put-offs:

1. Being bossed around by clients who think that they can do that because they are the paymaster. This is very common in Malaysia.

2. Dealing with bureaucracy from the authorities to get approvals.

3. Getting exploited - doing work at miserably low fees, not getting paid or getting paid very late.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Mar 1 2011, 02:21 PM

my fren told me calculation is more emphasized than drawing in arch, it;s a wrong fact rite?

i would say the emphasis are equal. when u do geometrical drawings, these fall under maths, not art. dividing a circle into equal portions of 11 surely requires ur skills in mathematical calculations rather than ur ability to produce beautiful pie cuts, right?

but if u're worried about engineering calculations, then u can relax. if we DO do the engineering calculations, we'll put engineers out of business. surely they wouldnt like that hehe.

All the engineering work e.g. the design of the structure and services of the building is undertaken by the engineers, not the architect. The maths involved in architectural drawings is really minimal which an SPM graduate should be able to handle. You may be required to calculate areas, distances and percentages but even these are automated with the computer. You have to be good in maths to be an engineer, not to be an architect.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Mar 1 2011, 02:33 PM

alamak, so math is important than arts? conclusion? or equal? omgomg..

Eek sorry, I mean PUBLIC local.
Include all level fee for Diploma until Bachelor first.

Do include the fee range for Master if it's available.

This post has been edited by yen2009: Mar 1 2011, 07:22 PM

Basic calculations such as

1. Area calculation = width x length (edit: why did i put height? haha)
2. Adding, subtraction, multiplication and dividing
3. Ratio : mostly to calculate the sloping of ramp and roofing
4. %
5. $$$ < this is the business side of architecture. heheh

Which one more important? both are equally important. U need to make sure the measurements are accurate while designing a pleasing looking building. Nothing to be scared of actually, those are simple maths.

This post has been edited by Bonetoad: Mar 3 2011, 12:34 AM

LOL my fren scared me to death by saying that math is more important than drawing skills. huh? simple maths? if it has anyting to do with addmath i think i can fail =_= my addmath sucks bt my modmath is gud LOL

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Added on March 2, 2011, 10:27 amthen my fren told me that his fren has to master function to prevent buildings from collapsing .......

This post has been edited by bayleef10: Mar 2 2011, 10:27 AM

well, functions in maths and functions in buildings are two VERY DIFFERENT concepts .

i can assure u, the most complex maths u will ever encounter in architecture is geometry. there's nothing of addmaths are required in architecture. u're definitely gonna need a bit of physics, but nothing some logic and a little maths cant cure.

geometry, u mean the cone, sphere volume n area stuff? thx god la no addmath!

i mean both 2D and 3D geometry.

oO i forgot dy =_= hibernating .....

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Added on March 2, 2011, 2:42 pmlol i thot it was one of the chapters in modmath

This post has been edited by bayleef10: Mar 2 2011, 02:42 PM

Define both 2D and 3D geometry?

My personal knowledge is that 3D means for the whole building's outer plan (exclude inner plan here first).
2D huh?

huh? just now i c the UTM's website and it only accepts matrikulasi science students? OMG......

hi

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Added on March 5, 2011, 12:27 amhey just wanna ask if anyone that has do their diploma in architecture and study for final for first degree in architecture in australia and new zealand.... what is the requirement to go into final year?

This post has been edited by zsl: Mar 5 2011, 12:27 AM