At this present stage of yours, you must have already gone through all the Taylor's Architecture overview, inquiry, counseling, and registration process, where they would have briefed you on the "Exemption examination" matter that you would be encountering with LAM later on at the end of your Architecture studies in Taylors.

It is surprising that you do not know what it is.

It is as simple as that, LAM will be interviewing you at the end of the Taylor's Architecture program. (I heard that it would be a one to one verbal interview.) After the interview, if you are up to the mark, LAM would accredit YOU; then you will be "Exempted" from the respective LAM examination.

This is what I was told, if you wish to make any further inquiries; Taylors is always just a call away.

Good luck.

P.S., you can always use your common sense for things like that.

EDIT:

OK, there is a small mistake there...

You will be joining the LAM-PAM PART ONE and PART TWO Exemption Examination AFTER your MASTER of Architecture in the University of Melbourne. Finally, you can join the LAM-PAM PART THREE Examination later on.

Note that there is LAM and PAM.

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Mar 16 2008, 07:22 PM

the only difference between the two degrees are the title and probably the focus of the curriculum. other than that, they should be equal to part 1.

do u mean LAM/PAM examination exemption? coz exemption examination doesnt quite make sense to me.

examination exemption is what LAM accredited courses award u. part 1, 2 and 3 are 3 levels of licenses in the architecture profession. normally, individuals who wants to be an architect must obtain all three licenses to practice in malaysia. and u can obtain these licenses through LAM examinations.

but, there are ways to skip the examinations for part 1 and 2. u can do this by going through 2 accredited degree courses. first for part 1 (3 years) and 2nd for part 2 (2 years). passing the degrees would mean u're exempted from taking the part 1 and 2 examinations.

In the Taylor's prospectus, thr's a Professional Registration Pathways in page 17.

Thr's written Joint LAM-PAM Part I & II Exemption Examination after Master of Architecture.

I don't really understand the word 'Exemption'. That's why I ask you all.

Sorry yea... Hehe

Are the PART 1 & PART 2 exams a problem? (After all, the PART 3 exam is inescapable anyway.)

The respective exams would only be taking up to a day am I right? (If that is the case, then I really cannot see any problems in taking the exams.)

[Plus the fact that those with the RIBA, RAIA or equivalent qualification will not have to sit for the exams if they are up to the mark.] (When they satisfy the requirements; which should not be a problem if you are serious in your study.)

BTW, according to the manual, Taylor's students taking the Bachelor of Science [HONS] [Architecture] will be subjected to accreditation by the Board of Architects Malaysia.

If my guess is correct, that means all Taylor's Architecture students will be accredited by the Board of Architects Malaysia (LAM-PAM), if they satisfy the requirements; which should not be a problem if the student study accordingly.

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Mar 16 2008, 11:36 PM

ok, on the bolded part, that's what we call "sugar coating".

what the sentence means is that after u finish BSc architecture, u will have to sit for LAM part 1 exam. it's not automatic accreditation. there's only two ways to gain accreditation of part 1: u finish ur degree in an accredited university, or take the exam individually.

what the sentence imply is probably a centralized application for the exam. meaning after ur batch finishes the degree, the school will organize LAM to come over the school at conduct examination all in one go rather than each students apply individually.

it was worded that way to gently tell the prospective students that they are not fully accredited, but didnt want to put the students off from studying there. if u look into other schools like UCSI, LUCT and twintech, u can find similar phrases .

That would be so cool!

I bet by that time, I would have missed exams so much that any exams would be a welcome treat to me.

Hi. I'm just getting my STPM result (GCPA3.67) and i wonder if I perform badly during interview, will it jeopardize my chances to get in UTM Bachelor of Architecture?
And what is the differences between civil engineering and architecture besides
one is planning while one is responsible for building? Any example??

i. yes, it will. architecture is not all about top achievers. we've rejected a couple of 3.70s before just bcoz their absolute inability to draw, and have very low self-confidence/unable to speak properly.

ii. huge differences that it is practically two different field altogether.

architecture is about design, merging arts and science together. u not only plan, but u take into consideration construction, technology, social welfare of the users, usability, practicality and everything in the building.

civil eng. is the science of construction. they dont do designs, they dont really care about the clients' needs, but concentrate primarily on making the building buildable through science of engineering. so the buildings are designed by the architects, while all the calculations are done by the engineers.




architecture and civil eng. cant live without each other. it's like the difference between a tailor and fashion designer. a fashion designer designs the attire, while a tailor builds it. another example would be a writer and a publisher. a writer writes the story into a book, while the publisher prints and publish them. so can one person be both? ofcourse.

OK, I shall try to have a go at this.

Civil Engineering and Architecture is different.

Using a building as an example, the Civil Engineer's job is to ensure that the building, (which the Architect have designed), can stand safely. He will also be the one to ensure that the Architect's design is safe, and can be build in the first place. The Civil Engineer will have to use the respective laws of Physical Science (Physics) and perform a lot of Engineering calculations in the process of determining the structural integrity of the building; which are many. (A building is very complicated.) As a specific example of the Civil Engineer's role, he will have to make sure that the pillars/columns can support the floor - floors above. In the process, he will have to determine the best material/cement type - grade to be used for the pillars/columns in respect & accordance to the Architect's design. Perhaps, the Architect's design is such that the area is an "Open Space Design Concept" where there is absolutely no pillars or columns in the vicinity. In such a situation, the Civil Engineer will have to use extra Critical thinking skills and extra knowledge of Structural Engineering to try to solve the problem. (There would always be a lot of complex Engineering calculations in the process, it is part of the Engineer's life; Maths must be his second nature and he must be proficient + fluent + efficient at mathematics, because there would always be a lot of calculations to perform. You need to like math a lot.) The Architect's design may involve floating walkways/bridges, to entire floor design sections indoors - outdoors that are (hanging/suspended) supported by steel cables & steel sections/beams. The Civil Engineer will have to calculate all of those structural and support factors, and perhaps even have to suggest to the Architect a more efficient or cost saving design that can still maintain the Architect's primary design concept. The Civil Engineer and the Architect will always have to perform technical discussions with each other. The Civil Engineer will have to be responsible for the efficiency of the structural designs. For example, the Architect's design for a certain part of the building may be using more supports for every section than it is needed...It will be the Civil Engineer's duty and responsibility to seek out and re-study the design to implement a more clever/ingenious/efficient design that can still hold, but with less supports...perhaps with equivalent support strength as the previous design as well... In such a case, the Civil Engineer will have to perform his calculations and apply the laws of Physics appropriately to come across a suitable & practical - cost saving design that is not at the expense of the building's safety. The Civil Engineer need to study the Architect's design as well. The Architect may use 6 columns to support a section of the building, but when the Civil Engineer study the design and perform his calculations, he may find out that 3 columns is enough to support the section, when they are designed more ingeniously and placed more efficiently. (Every decision the Engineer makes must is backed up by his calculations; which must be "crucially" correct and accurate.) The Civil Engineer have many other roles as well. He would also have to deal with the sewage/waste deposit system, the drainage system, infrastructures (Flyovers, highways, roads, railways, dams, tunnels, airports etc...), as such...(Basically, the Civil Engineer will be working very closely with the Architect.)

What about the Architect???

Well, the Architect is known as the "Master Builder", and he is in charge of the build environment, which includes everything; the social and cultural aspect as well. The Architect initiates projects that ranges from small personal houses to huge office complexes, he also get to design the houses and the office complexes based on the client's needs or desires. The Architect will follow up with the project until it is ready for the public. He will be supervising everyone in the build environment throughout the project, and those are the Engineers, the Quantity Surveyors, the Workers, the Construction Managers, the Technicians, the Interior Designers, etc...It will be the Architect's responsibility to produce designs that are functional and efficient for the benefit/betterment of mankind, and that apply to the building, landscape, city, or the build environment in its entirety that the Architect have designed. (A lot of brain power will be needed.) Basically, the Architect will be involve in "Design". When the Architect design a building, he has to take into consideration the function and purpose of the building. He would have to design every floor plan and layouts of the building. (He would have to plan and visualize a lot, using a lot of his brain power.) When the Architect design a building, he would also have to take into consideration and plan the traffic flow of the people. He will determine how the people will access and exit the building as one of the many examples, and the design of the building have to be efficient, functional, yet pleasing. (Beautiful, functional, & efficient will apply throughout the Architect's design.) The Architect will also get to choose building materials such as glass & steel/concrete to convey his design. (All in all, the building have to be durable, cost effective, & pleasing.) The Architect will also plan the wind flow and lighting of the building. (The Architect will have various designs in mind for those kind of wind or lighting applications, and he will try to make the designs pleasing while at the same time serve its purpose.) The main thing that the Architect need to do, regarding the building, is to "Design" the building; plan the layouts, design the floor plans for each and every individual floors, plan the building traffic, and plan/design the building surroundings as well. There are also a lot of technicalities that the Architect have to handle, such as the air-conditionings, the airflows, the ventilations, and the lightings as such. (Basically, the Architect is in charge of the building that he design; and that includes being in charge of the construction team as well.) The Architect will supervise the construction process to make sure that his designs are correctly build and according to his blueprint. Today, the Architect will also have to bring "Sustainable Designs" into account. Architects today have to make sure that their buildings are environmentally friendly. They have to control the power consumption/efficiency, waste output, and resource consumption/efficiency of their buildings. They would have to think of more environmentally friendly designs for their buildings. (Ecological Architecture, Green Architecture, Sustainable Architecture, as such...) The Architect have to research and develop [R&D] more environmentally sound/efficient designs. They would have to get involve in maximizing the productivity and minimizing the waste products of their buildings with the help of the specialized Engineers. (Recycling, reprocessing, and reconverting are some of the keys.)

The following concept will be a good start towards Green Architecture, involving buildings that will have less negative impact on the environment >>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MEC%27s...mong_others.jpg

It will be the Architect's role to think, research, experiment, and carry out all this. They have to be the innovators of this field in the build environment; which they are in charge of.

*Build a better tomorrow for all mankind*

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Mar 17 2008, 07:22 AM

I've been told thr's a taylors foundation in natural and built environment coming on july and it's 1 n half year long!

i've asked them is it possible to switch to taylors new degree after i finish foundation in other recognized (not accredited) uni and they say should be no prob but hv to match the subs.

what if some subs are not matched? or taylors hv extra subs? what will happen?

well , i believed that if you are accepted to the interview , they will look on your interview more than your result . but this must be confirm by mr.azarimy . personally i think the cgpa does carry a part of it .
as what i have experience , my frined got 3.5 , got interview in USM UTM . i didnt get any interview and i was quite upset, i appeal until i got the chance to show myself in UTM interview, with my 2.92 result . my friend didnt get anything at the end , while i got UTM now .

3.5+automatically accepted to Interview USM UTM : 2.92+only got the interview by appealing to UTM .

Is UTM better than USM and other universities because only UTM can offer degrees that lead to LAM accredited Part 2 architecture while others cannot??

Regarding the Taylor's Foundation in the Natural & Build Environment;

Wow, 1.5 years for a pre-university program is already like the A-Levels... (Pretty Extensive.)

btw, just curious. What happens if you get the interview at a local uni but fail it? bye bye local universities for any course?

This post has been edited by BurgaFlippinMan: Mar 18 2008, 01:19 AM

no.

UTM's degree is 5 years, that awards u with both parts 1 and 2 with a single degree.

USM, UM, UiTM and other universities splits the course into two separate degree. 3 years for part 1 and 2 years for part 2, totaling to 5 years, exactly the same with UTM.

so it's neither better or worse. it caters for different needs or preference of the students. if u go to UTM, u dont have to worry about graduating and continuing for the 2nd degree, and u will become an architect after just a single degree. the disadvantage is that u dont have any breaks - it's full five years of studies. separate degrees offered by other universities allow u to take a breather after the first 3 years, maybe work for a year as an architect's assistant and gain more practical knowledge before joining part 2. the disadvantage is that it may take longer, and the intake for part 2 is usually more strict than part 1.

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Added on March 18, 2008, 1:19 amno.

it simply means u will fail the interview for that particular application. meaning u can still apply again next year again and again. do note that if u apply to several other courses with interview filtering in a single application (u have 8 choices in UPU), u may be interviewed by up to each and every course u've applied (assuming ur score is nothing less than extraordinary). it is quite normal that u get called for 2-3 interviews from different schools, like some of our friends here have experienced.

so if u fail a particular interview, it doesnt mean u will fail the others or the subsequent interviews u will have in ur life . like i said, if u fail, try again.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 18 2008, 01:19 AM

Thanks. But what I meant was like say I put down UTM Architecture in choice 1 and some course which doesnt require an interview in choice 2. Is it possible to get called for the interview AND be accepted for choice 2?

two things can happen:

i. u will need to take a short foundation course (maybe 1 semester) to finish off the extra subjects. or

ii. u will start 1st year of the degree, but u will have to take several subjects from foundation (meaning u will have extra load during 1st year).

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Added on March 18, 2008, 1:30 amyes.

when u apply, UPU will send out ur application to all 8 choices. each will decide through the selection process, and will give the verdict back to UPU. from here UPU will observe who said yes and no, and only send u the highest choice that said yes.

the interview is part of the selection process, and each does not interfere with another school's interview. example: if u fail UTM interview (1st choice), u may still be offered UM (2nd choice).

This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 18 2008, 01:30 AM

ah ok. thks!

I would like to ask, if i am offered another course besides architecture in a local uni and i accept it for the time being, will i be able to change course after one semester or will i need to wait for a year or it depends on the procedures? How long does it normally take?

Thanks

Hi, i'm Sastera Student STPM 2007 . my result mixed to 2.84 T__T , so bad coz i alwasy get 3.00 above normaly at school . so here what i got

Pengajian AM = 3.00
Pendidikan Seni = 3.00
Ekonomi = 2.67
Geografi = 2.67
Bahasa Melayu = 2.67

Total is 2.84

my Kokorikulm i got 83.45% , MUET is ben 3 , and got 1 special sijil "HeadBoy"
hmm..
this what i applying in UPU

Pilihan 1 * - KH03 SAINS SENI BINA# - UKM
Pilihan 2 * - PH11 BACELOR REKA BENTUK (SENI BINA) -UPM
Pilihan 3 * - MH03 SAINS SENIBINA -UM
Pilihan 4 * - KE00 EKONOMI - UKM
Pilihan 5 - PE00 BACELOR EKONOMI - UPM
Pilihan 6 - MP06 PENTADBIRAN PERNIAGAAN -UM
Pilihan 7 - MS69 SAINS (GEOGRAFI) -UM
Pilihan 8 - KA18 SAINS SOSIAL (GEOGRAFI) -UKM

i was hopping to take S.SENI BINA.
is't i still got chance for it?

or which one more suitable for me by looking for my result.?