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Benjamin911
post Mar 15 2008, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Mar 15 2008, 01:34 AM)
What is the difference? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Mar 15 2008, 01:42 AM)
What is the difference? unsure.gif
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Realize you are looking at buildings? You are 1st year. The buildings won't be easily analyzed by you unless you have a good foundation. And those I suggested are parts of architectural history. Understand how architecture begins. You like command & conquer no? Remember what the game preached? "He who controls the past commands the future. He who commands the future conquers the past." Actually that phrase belongs to George Orwell.
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post Mar 15 2008, 01:56 AM

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You like command & conquer no? Remember what the game preached? "He who controls the past commands the future. He who commands the future conquers the past."
OMG!!! shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

You can be my hero mann!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Now, the next thing is;

How can you interpret that phase for the relevance of Architecture? wink.gif


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post Mar 15 2008, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Mar 15 2008, 01:56 AM)
How can you interpret that phase for the relevance of Architecture? wink.gif
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You need to understand why things happen. Everything happens for a reason. You eat because you are hungry. You are kind to that girl because you love her. You vote because you want a better government. Architecture is in the same reality. You need to understand why things happen in the past so that you'll understand why it is so in the present, and what will and may happen in the future. I'll let you ponder hmm.gif
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Mar 15 2008, 02:07 AM)
You need to understand why things happen. Everything happens for a reason. You eat because you are hungry. You are kind to that girl because you love her. You vote because you want a better government. Architecture is in the same reality. You need to understand why things happen in the past so that you'll understand why it is so in the present, and what will and may happen in the future. I'll let you ponder  hmm.gif
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OK BOSS, no problem!!! icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyway, the reason why I was looking at buildings was simply because I am very interested in buildings!

At the same time, I am also getting more ideas about building designs.

In the future, those building references would also be helpful to me when I have to design buildings/structures during my Architecture education.

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history and theory of architecture ties directly to the evolution of the world. for example, world war II paved way for modernism. what does modernist architecture look like?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernism

u see this quite a lot in malaysia especially 50s-70s. the parliament, masjid negara, hospital besar KL are all modernist architecture. where does it come from?

before WW2, the art&craft movement generally dominates architecture spawning off from renaissance and all the artsy fartsy european movements. these art movements are quite reluctant to embrace technology and mass production - they believe architecture, as the mother of all arts, should be made by hand - all of it! means u must lay bricks layer by layer, sculpt the columns bit by bit and all that. it takes too long to produce a building, but each are beautiful, no doubt.

then WW2 happened, and all hell broke loose in europe.

in the aftermath, people realize they dont have any expertise in construction, but they need buildings fast. so mass production began and modernism took over. it eventually catches on with mass printing and mass communication, allowing the entire world to embrace modernism.

the rest is history.




i'm a modernist, and it is not dead tongue.gif.
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well , i am with the same batch with the first batch interview .
the first batch got the interview letter , i but i got the letter telling me that i have not chosen for the interview . so via contact to UTM administration, i am able to appeal for the interview . thanks for mr.azarimy, mr.xtracooljustin and my dad who have given me so much guides in getting the interview and passed the interview .
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Thanks loads. I heard they want to see if you can draw first before proceeding to the interview. Is it true?

Anyway, BridgestoneRE711, did you take Arts for your SPM?

Thanks alot for answering my questions smile.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 15 2008, 05:54 AM)
i'm a modernist, and it is not dead tongue.gif.
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Really? tongue.gif Haven't seen much progress of this movement for a very long time tongue.gif
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post Mar 15 2008, 04:37 PM

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Hai~ sorry to interrupt your, um, conversation like this (=.=) but i need to ask: from what i've read in the first page, concerning the paths to becoming an architect, i gathered that you can switch from civil engineering or interior design to archi? is it true? and as Azarimy said, the transferring of courses is handled on a case-by-case basis, does it mean you have to attend interviews and such?

I just got my STPM result and am trying to choose my courses. since there are only so many IPTAs that are accredited by LAM, I still have 4 or 5 choices to fill in. For now I am considering choosing UM and UKM's Civil, and also USM's ID. So that If i really couldn't get through the interviews (If i do get called to attend, that is) at least I can do one year Civil then apply for transfer... Any advice? (My bro says, 'Just leave the other choices blank! Show 'em you really really Only want to be an Architect! =.=)
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 15 2008, 05:54 AM)
history and theory of architecture ties directly to the evolution of the world. for example, world war II paved way for modernism. what does modernist architecture look like?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernism

u see this quite a lot in malaysia especially 50s-70s. the parliament, masjid negara, hospital besar KL are all modernist architecture. where does it come from?

before WW2, the art&craft movement generally dominates architecture spawning off from renaissance and all the artsy fartsy european movements. these art movements are quite reluctant to embrace technology and mass production - they believe architecture, as the mother of all arts, should be made by hand - all of it! means u must lay bricks layer by layer, sculpt the columns bit by bit and all that. it takes too long to produce a building, but each are beautiful, no doubt.

then WW2 happened, and all hell broke loose in europe.

in the aftermath, people realize they dont have any expertise in construction, but they need buildings fast. so mass production began and modernism took over. it eventually catches on with mass printing and mass communication, allowing the entire world to embrace modernism.

the rest is history.
i'm a modernist, and it is not dead tongue.gif.
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Mann, you can also be the lecturer of the C&C Arsenal! cool2.gif

Are the following buildings Modernism Architecture? (I really like those types of designs a lot, a lot....lust.gif)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:150_Gre...%28WTC_4%29.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/Tower22.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WTC_Towers_Memorial.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Burj_Dubai.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hudson_Place.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:VM_husene_orestad.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pendergardens.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Model_o...m_park_west.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Tower

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:New_ECB_building.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Render03nocturna4rj.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Metal_waves_breaking.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Axis_tower.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Auroralarge.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Model_of_Aqua.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f...th_Street_3.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:53_West_53rd_Street.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5...EnshaaTower.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3...uture_Dome2.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Glaspaleis_penthouse.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TelstraDomeDocklands.jpg

Regards.

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QUOTE(yuexia @ Mar 15 2008, 08:37 AM)
Hai~ sorry to interrupt your, um, conversation like this (=.=) but i need to ask: from what i've read in the first page, concerning the paths to becoming an architect, i gathered that you can switch from civil engineering or interior design to archi? is it true? and as Azarimy said, the transferring of courses is handled on a case-by-case basis, does it mean you have to attend interviews and such?

I just got my STPM result and am trying to choose my courses. since there are only so many IPTAs that are accredited by LAM, I still have 4 or 5 choices to fill in. For now I am considering choosing UM and UKM's Civil, and also USM's ID. So that If i really couldn't get through the interviews (If i do get called to attend, that is) at least I can do one year Civil then apply for transfer... Any advice? (My bro says, 'Just leave the other choices blank! Show 'em you really really Only want to be an Architect! =.=)
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as i've said before, u can change courses, but it is dealt on a case-by-case basis. it means u will need to bring whatever u've achieved to the new school, and they will determine whether a transfer is possible. transfer here means u stop wherever u are and continue at a new school to pickup wherever u've left off. changing courses are not "transfers". u can only transfer from one school to another school within the same course and the same certificate. so careful when using that term wink.gif.

to be honest, it is easier to change courses within the same faculty. for example, if ur target is architecture in UTM, it is best to look for other courses under the same faculty (faculty of built environment) like landscape architecture, QS, planning or building const. changing courses within the faculty is dealt by the dean, and does not require involvement from university administrations other than the registrar. changing courses of different faculties within the same uni involves atleast two deans, several head departments and a whole bunch of people. and changing from one university to the other involves a alot more people.

so u can imagine the difficulty of changing courses.

the best option is to finish what u're studying before changing. the most suitable way is to start with diploma, bcoz with a diploma ur option to change/switch courses is very, very easy. but i do see that u already have STPM, so it might not be an option. best case scenario, if u're holding an engineering degree, u will start ur architecture part 1 at 2nd year. that's the best promise i can give u. i wouldnt dare say u can start at anything higher than 2nd year. interior design, maybe. but not engineering.
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sorry. right. will use 'transfer' and 'change' more carefully next time. thanks for the correction and informations smile.gif

well. then i guess i'll have to ditch civil...never really thought of myself as an engineering person anyway sweat.gif hmm..i've looked at UTM's available programmes quite a few times already, and from what i know, they don't have interior design, right? that ia actually the next thing i think i would like to do, after archi. landscape arr...but i don't have 'green fingers'. never plant anything in my life so far blink.gif don't think it suits me.

another question. i know you (i mean Azarimy) dont really approve of studying arch in a non-accredited school (i.e. UKM, UPM); but then...who goes there to study? i'm yet to know anyone who studies at non-acc schools.. Is it very difficult to pass PAM I and II? besides preparing your portfolio, are there any tests? interviews? i'm asking this because i don't know whether i should put UKM and UPM as my choices or not. Does anyone know anything about arch fac in those schools?

thank you~! biggrin.gif


Added on March 15, 2008, 8:37 pmgosh. just went to look up 'landscape architecture' and realize my huge mistake. have thought all along that landscape arch means garden design! i. am. such. a. fool.

anyway. am starting to think that perhaps landscape arch is quite interesting too. anyone have anything to say on that ? (...i dont think i should post this here..this is, after all, "So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE?" =.=)

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 13 2008, 07:52 PM)
what do u mean by "change"?

i. do u mean top-up? meaning finishing off 3 year diploma, and then do 1 year degree?

ii. or do u mean change ur current diploma into degree?

if the answer is ii, then several other question comes to mind. what is ur current status right now? what year are u in? what qualifications do u hold prior to ur diploma?
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what i mean is after i study diploma for 3 years, for taylors i hv to go to overseas(melbourne) rite? but since taylors has new degree, can i study that instead of going to overseas? hehe smile.gif

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i'd registered for the diploma of architectural technology which offered by taylor's college today.
the intake is start on 24 march,may i know i should ready anything before start my study of architecture?
gosh,i'm start to feel nervous~
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what i mean is after i study diploma for 3 years, for taylors i hv to go to overseas(melbourne) rite? but since taylors has new degree, can i study that instead of going to overseas? hehe  smile.gif
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I was told by Taylors that it is possible. smile.gif

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QUOTE(yuexia @ Mar 15 2008, 11:57 AM)
sorry. right. will use 'transfer' and 'change' more carefully next time. thanks for the correction and informations  smile.gif

well. then i guess i'll have to ditch civil...never really thought of myself as an engineering person anyway  sweat.gif hmm..i've looked at UTM's available programmes quite a few times already, and from what i know, they don't have interior design, right? that ia actually the next thing i think i would like to do, after archi. landscape arr...but i don't have 'green fingers'. never plant anything in my life so far  blink.gif  don't think it suits me.


no, UTM does not offer ID. it is in the plan to offer ID as well as graphic/multimedia design, but we're talking atleast 5-10 years time.

i guess the question about landscape have already been answered by ur previous post wink.gif.

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another question. i know you (i mean Azarimy) dont really approve of studying arch in a non-accredited school (i.e. UKM, UPM); but then...who goes there to study? i'm yet to know anyone who studies at non-acc schools.. Is it very difficult to pass PAM I and II? besides preparing your portfolio, are there any tests? interviews? i'm asking this because i don't know whether i should put UKM and UPM as my choices or not. Does anyone know anything about arch fac in those schools?

thank you~!  biggrin.gif


why do anyone would wanna go there? first of all, the competition is less fierce, meaning easier to get in. schools like UKM and UPM are working hard for their accreditation right now, so if u join in this year, u should be able to graduate with atleast a part 1 within 3 years. i'm 80% positive on this especially for UPM.

why would anyone gamble going to an unaccredited school? well, atleast u're still studying architecture rather than some other course that u might not like. it's easier to take the exam later than not at all, isnt it? biggrin.gif.

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why would anyone gamble going to an unaccredited school?
I remembered hearing from you that a graduated student from an unaccredited school can always seek out the accreditation process himself/herself individually in the future, am I right?

BTW, how does one show ALL of their works during the accreditation process? Do you take photos of all the works that you have done since day one, or what?

How does one compile a portfolio of ALL the works that he or she have ever done in the Architecture school?

How about those assignments that had involved teamwork? (Such as a HUGE model for example...)
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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Mar 15 2008, 03:17 PM)
I remembered hearing from you that a graduated student from an unaccredited school can always seek out the accreditation process himself/herself individually in the future, am I right?


it was a rhetorical question...

so yes, there are ways to seek accreditation individually.

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BTW, how does one show ALL of their works during the accreditation process? Do you take photos of all the works that you have done since day one, or what?

How does one compile a portfolio of ALL the works that he or she have ever done in the Architecture school?

How about those assignments that had involved teamwork? (Such as a HUGE model for example...)
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for drawings, usually they require original works only, so u're gonna have to compile everything into a portable portfolio. u could also reproduce it into a smaller scale, but u are still required to have the originals available for verification. some of my friends reproduced everything in A3, and kept the originals in several folio bags.

for models, u can take photos.

for assignments and project reports, u are required to have the original available.

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 16 2008, 12:57 AM)
it was a rhetorical question...

so yes, there are ways to seek accreditation individually.
for drawings, usually they require original works only, so u're gonna have to compile everything into a portable portfolio. u could also reproduce it into a smaller scale, but u are still required to have the originals available for verification. some of my friends reproduced everything in A3, and kept the originals in several folio bags.

for models, u can take photos.

for assignments and project reports, u are required to have the original available.
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OK, it sounds simple enough if I ever want to deal with the LAM/PAM Accreditation thingy. (Anyway, it is very likely that the College would be guiding me through the LAM/PAM exemption examination process in the future; as part of their responsibility.)

Thanks a lot.

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may i know what's the difference between Bach. of Environment and other B.Sc.? They're still part 1 right?


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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Mar 16 2008, 01:44 AM)
OK, it sounds simple enough if I ever want to deal with the LAM/PAM Accreditation thingy. (Anyway, it is very likely that the College would be guiding me through the LAM/PAM exemption examination process in the future; as part of their responsibility.)

Thanks a lot.
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what does LAM/PAM exemption examination means? hmm.gif

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