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Cheesenium
post Sep 2 2008, 01:46 PM

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Strange,my A Levels was conducted in English too and they still ask me for IELTS.

Oh well,it's over now.
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post Sep 2 2008, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 2 2008, 02:46 PM)
Strange,my A Levels was conducted in English too and they still ask me for IELTS.

Oh well,it's over now.
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well; it depends on how good is one english is maybe. sweat.gif
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post Sep 2 2008, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Sep 2 2008, 01:53 PM)
well; it depends on how good is one english is maybe. sweat.gif
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Could be.

Dont care about it la.
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post Sep 2 2008, 02:28 PM

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It all depends really on the individual university. There are no hard and set rules. If they want IELTS, sit for it. What is the issue here? Yes, RM500 is still money, but if coughing up RM500 is so difficult, what makes you think about can afford RM60,000/year?

I personally have my doubts on people who get in with SPM 1119. Even a A1 is the absolute bare minimum. In the case of MeruChan, I think they looked at your diploma (from where?) more than your SPM.

Personally, if nothing else, sitting for IELTS allows you to benchmark yourself against your (international) peers when you arrive in Australia.
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post Sep 2 2008, 06:03 PM

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any melbourne uni student here?? blush.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 2 2008, 09:06 AM)
I got a B3 for 1119 and im still required to take IELTS.SPM1119's English standard is way too low to be used in uni.

Where did you get this info?

Non of the prospectus i had say they accept O-level english.
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Not all universities have the same english language requirements. UQ does accept SPM GCE-O level moderated grade of english (at least B3), while many other universities only accept AS level General paper/ English subject. If someone can score at least A2 in 1119 English, i don't think he/she will score less than 6.5 in IELTS.
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post Sep 2 2008, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(cleo17 @ Sep 2 2008, 07:03 PM)
any melbourne uni student here??  blush.gif
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plenty msian icon_rolleyes.gif n Melbourne Uni kids icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 2 2008, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(alwayshappy @ Sep 2 2008, 06:35 PM)
Not all universities have the same english language requirements. UQ does accept SPM GCE-O level moderated grade of english (at least B3), while many other universities only accept AS level General paper/ English subject. If someone can score at least A2 in 1119 English, i don't think he/she will score less than 6.5 in IELTS.
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just curious ... , what are you guys being tested on IELTS? english essays? oral? laugh.gif
I have classmates that failed IELTS 2 / 3 times before passing ... sweat.gif

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post Sep 2 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(s373n @ Sep 2 2008, 10:20 PM)
just curious ... , what are you guys being tested on IELTS? english essays? oral? laugh.gif
I have classmates that failed IELTS 2 / 3 times before passing ...  sweat.gif
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there is no such thing as 'fail' ielts......everybody is given a band grade, from 1 to 9, 1 being totally non-english user to 9 being expert english user........nobody fails.........

what people mean when they say the 'fail' is that they failed to meet the requirements of whatever that needs english testing, be it to enter uni, to apply for a job, to apply for pr, etc..........this minimum band requirement will of course vary, depending on the situation......eg, you need band 7 for laws and medicine courses.......but band 6 for pr application......and there are 2 categories of ielts, general and academic........

for what is tested, see my post above.......
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 2 2008, 10:48 PM)
there is no such thing as 'fail' ielts......everybody is given a band grade, from 1 to 9, 1 being totally non-english user to 9 being expert english user........nobody fails.........

what people mean when they say the 'fail' is that they failed to meet the requirements of whatever that needs english testing, be it to enter uni, to apply for a job, to apply for pr, etc..........this minimum band requirement will of course vary, depending on the situation......eg, you need band 7 for laws and medicine courses.......but band 6 for pr application......and there are 2 categories of ielts, general and academic........

for what is tested, see my post above.......
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oh i see, ha-ha, sorry, i have no idea about IELTS, that's what my classmates tell me ... doh.gif

i took up ESL in high school...
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idk but i think i won't need to take IELTS in order to go aussie for my degree. Since my diploma is conducted in English ^^
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i think im in the same situation as babyboop. i will be sitting for spm this year. and i really wish to study abroad in australia as my relatives are living there. so i don't have to worry about the accommodation. somehow, can i straight away fly to australia and take up diploma for business there after my spm examination? do i have to take year 12? do i have to take up english test like IELTS before going there?
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 2 2008, 10:48 PM)
there is no such thing as 'fail' ielts......everybody is given a band grade, from 1 to 9, 1 being totally non-english user to 9 being expert english user........nobody fails.........

what people mean when they say the 'fail' is that they failed to meet the requirements of whatever that needs english testing, be it to enter uni, to apply for a job, to apply for pr, etc..........this minimum band requirement will of course vary, depending on the situation......eg, you need band 7 for laws and medicine courses.......but band 6 for pr application......and there are 2 categories of ielts, general and academic........

for what is tested, see my post above.......
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Normally, students with a high level of English Language proficiency, will score 8.0 and above and it's considered an excellent result as it will fulfill english language requirements for all courses. No courses will need any higher score than 8.0.

Students with above normal grasp of english language, score 7.0 or 7.5. Many Malaysians fall in this category.

Students with normal level, usually score 6.0 or 6.5.

Students with below average level, normally score 5.0 or 5.5, and this usually does not fulfill uni's english language requirements.

If anyone score less than 5.0, it is considered as very poor. This case rarely happens unless one has not studied english for a few years.

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QUOTE(ivelove @ Sep 3 2008, 10:28 AM)
i think im in the same situation as babyboop. i will be sitting for spm this year. and i really wish to study abroad in australia as my relatives are living there. so i don't have to worry about the accommodation. somehow, can i straight away fly to australia and take up diploma for business there after my spm examination? do i have to take year 12? do i have to take up english test like IELTS before going there?
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You can fly to Australia; but be prepare before fly in.
You dont need to take YR12 if you dont plan to. To take Diploma in Business; you need to refer to which college you prefer n study the subjects either its worth more to do in Msia or to do here.
It depends on your result n the Australia college requirement. some will state it required; some will not.

just ask if you need more info. smile.gif

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I should also mention that my housemate was also from Informatics college(although not Melaka branch), perhaps that's the reason. And also, if the university not only recognized but actually has some sort of 'linkage' to your college, you can just ask your lecturer to write something like confirmation letter to 'guarantee' that all the courses are taught in English and you'll get in the uni as well, that's what one of my friends did when she couldn't pass 6.0 of the IELTS. Of course, some highly regarded uni may not accept this trick (such as ANU or UniMeb), but well, i think certificate is just what they want to see.

About whether you should take IELTS or not if it's not compulsory, well i think it depends on personal opinion. For me if i'd known that trick i wouldn't take the IELTS because, i simply don't think that paper is worth RM 520. Yeah it gives you a sense of achievement when you got 8.5 or something, but well...really depends on you if you want to fork out money or not.
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just to share my experience.
uni of melb and anu gave me an offer without requiring me to do ielts.
i did GCE A-levels with General paper.
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post Sep 3 2008, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(mrRighthand @ Sep 3 2008, 04:27 PM)
just to share my experience.
uni of melb and anu gave me an offer without requiring me to do ielts.
i did GCE A-levels with General paper.
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but do understand; unimelb is undergoing internal education overhaul; so to win ppl interest especially intl student; do alot rebate, waives here n there.. smile.gif jst to win more for capital expenditure n growth.
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i guess so.. i think they r that desperate for international students(=$$$). and i did get a scholarship from uni of melb due to recommendation from sunway U.college. but i think still got abit standard la when they choose their students, my fren took ielts a few times but still unable to to meet their mark... they die oso dunwan reduce their entry requirement = =...
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QUOTE(mrRighthand @ Sep 3 2008, 05:00 PM)
i guess so.. i think they r that desperate for international students(=$$$). and i did get a scholarship from uni of melb due to recommendation from sunway U.college. but i think still got abit standard la when they choose their students, my fren took ielts a few times but still unable to to meet their mark... they die oso dunwan reduce their entry requirement = =...
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yes...not just that. funding from Govt is very low. source of income? rip off the intl student. Make them fail sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mrRighthand @ Sep 3 2008, 03:27 PM)
just to share my experience.
uni of melb and anu gave me an offer without requiring me to do ielts.
i did GCE A-levels with General paper.
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you will not need ielts if you pre-u qualification is a-levels lah........that is very clearly stated in the prospectus........you people don't read issit?.........


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