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Cheesenium
post Apr 26 2008, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 26 2008, 10:57 AM)
Yeap, I'll be staying an hour away from the University.
I think, that's what my cousin told me. Have to sit train, then bus. BLUR ~~
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I think it would be better to stay near the uni.The actual distance you have to walk in the uni is quite far.

QUOTE(december88 @ Apr 26 2008, 12:52 PM)
true, maths assignments are a real killer. commerce ppl hav it real easy(i mean schedule wise), one of my mates is like so care-free, go uni 3 times a week. haih ..... i wish i could do that too.
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Yeah,it's endless.

Im still doing it now and im feeling lazy. doh.gif

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 26 2008, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 26 2008, 08:00 PM)
I think it would be better to stay near the uni.The actual distance you have to walk in the uni is quite far.
Yes, definitely. But I really need to settle down there first at my coussie's place. So ...
Maybe next year ^^
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post Apr 26 2008, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(mooze @ Apr 26 2008, 07:52 PM)
this might seem odd question, but does anyone here knows the cost of getting a pet cat? particularly at adelaide, since i'm there now, and will be for the next four years..

i'm used to pet stray cats but never have i bought one before and kept indoors.. so is it easy to train it to do its business on litter box?
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lols! so lonely ke mooze sampai takde kucing main?
well, you got to check up the animal shelter to pick up a cat there in adelaide.(RSPCA) smth like tat...
summore; you gotta take care them well; not easy tho..


QUOTE(s373n @ Apr 26 2008, 08:17 PM)
the fares will also rise 0.6% something next year  sweat.gif
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really doh.gif everything in aus increase doh.gif
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post Apr 26 2008, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(bhypp @ Apr 26 2008, 01:55 PM)
anyway....source
good news for u guys....i think i wasted like $60 to apply for permission to work on my visa..... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif good job labor govt!!! i wish msia got labor party too......sick of all those 'elistist' party and theres no one in msia that takes care of average working msian families....
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Read carefully: http://www.immi.gov.au/students/_pdf/permi...rk-students.pdf

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People granted student visas on or after 26 April 2008


Only student visa's granted after the 26 April will be automatically given work permits. For the rest of us in OZ who don't yet have a working visa, we still have to apply for one.

Personally, this is opening up a can of worms. But I'll leave that for some other time.


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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Apr 26 2008, 08:09 PM)
really  doh.gif  everything in aus increase  doh.gif
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Don't you know? The RBA calculated the inflation rate in the first quater to be 4%. Looking at my grocery bills, that sounds about right. I wouldn't bore you with the stats, but suffice to say it is a general indicator.

$30 bucks don't go as far as it used to.

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post Apr 26 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 26 2008, 08:02 PM)
Yes, definitely. But I really need to settle down there first at my coussie's place. So ...
Maybe next year ^^
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Yeah,could be a good idea cause by next year,you'll have a bunch of trust able friends that you can live with.

If not,you'll meet all sorts of weird people.
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post Apr 26 2008, 11:17 PM

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agree agree haya....inflation in aussie is pretty bad.....ive not been here long enuff but can see the inflation effect.....everyyear the public transport fare will be hiked.....same goes to housing / rentals...and groceries oso....
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QUOTE(bhypp @ Apr 26 2008, 11:17 PM)
agree agree haya....inflation in aussie is pretty bad.....ive not been here long enuff but can see the inflation effect.....everyyear the public transport fare will be hiked.....same goes to housing / rentals...and groceries oso....
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Why this happen when I wanted to go there to study mad.gif
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post Apr 27 2008, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 26 2008, 09:09 PM)
Don't you know? The RBA calculated the inflation rate in the first quater to be 4%. Looking at my grocery bills, that sounds about right. I wouldn't bore you with the stats, but suffice to say it is a general indicator.

$30 bucks don't go as far as it used to.
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I know; but it cant go all the way up right.? It got to have some where to buffer on. I seen my milk increase from 1.96 per litre to 2.03 per litre. In another 12 month; Possible of 2.50 or maybe.
Oil price just got up to 1.53 per litre...
If this continue; ringgit value shrink; i dont know how are we going to survive... doh.gif

QUOTE(bhypp @ Apr 27 2008, 12:17 AM)
agree agree haya....inflation in aussie is pretty bad.....ive not been here long enuff but can see the inflation effect.....everyyear the public transport fare will be hiked.....same goes to housing / rentals...and groceries oso....
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public transport in victoria and sydney is pretty rip off; with congestion increase; oil price also increase- what option you got?

QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 27 2008, 12:18 AM)
Why this happen when I wanted to go there to study  mad.gif
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why this happen? ask USA> ask CHINA ask the economist/bankers..they will tell you one thing; we cant handle the increase iether and we are running out of idea possible and a global stagflation >world food organisation just announced we are in food shortage due to climate change. doh.gif
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post Apr 27 2008, 11:15 AM

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This is what you get from living in a free market economy, unlike Malaysia, where it is a controlled economy. Free fall price rises and falls.

In the days of old, there were the 2 camps: a planned economy (think the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea and gang) and a free economy (UK, USA, Sweden, NZ etc). Malaysia (like many countries in the region) has opted for a controlled economy, where the price of essentials are set by the government, and prices kept low by government intervention (read: subsides).

So when calculating the CPI and the inflation rate, a basket of, you guessed it, essentials is used, from food to petrol. In Malaysia, that is convinently kept in control by a controlled economy. While in Australia, it is set my market forces (and some say, the duopoly between Woolies and Coles).

But even my grandmother can tell you that overall cost of living has gone up by more than 3%, no matter what Zeti says. (http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/4/26/business/21072504&sec=business)

Its easy to blame food prices in the international markets without checking the fundimentals of a country's economy.

So you say that inflation in Australia is bad, but is it any better in Malaysia? You say that milk has gone up from 1.90 to 2.10 for 1 liters, but my bowl of kolo mee has gone up from RM 2.20 to 2.50 in about the same time.

And why the RM has been weak? The US$ is partly to blame, but its also due to the fact that a weak RM is in the interest of the Malaysian economy.
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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 27 2008, 12:15 PM)
This is what you get from living in a free market economy, unlike Malaysia, where it is a controlled economy. Free fall price rises and falls.

In the days of old, there were the 2 camps: a planned economy (think the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea and gang) and a free economy (UK, USA, Sweden, NZ etc). Malaysia (like many countries in the region) has opted for a controlled economy, where the price of essentials are set by the government, and prices kept low by government intervention (read: subsides).

So when calculating the CPI and the inflation rate, a basket of, you guessed it, essentials is used, from food to petrol. In Malaysia, that is convinently kept in control by a controlled economy. While in Australia, it is set my market forces (and some say, the duopoly between Woolies and Coles).

But even my grandmother can tell you that overall cost of living has gone up by more than 3%, no matter what Zeti says. (http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/4/26/business/21072504&sec=business)

Its easy to blame food prices in the international markets without checking the fundimentals of a country's economy.

So you say that inflation in Australia is bad, but is it any better in Malaysia? You say that milk has gone up from 1.90 to 2.10 for 1 liters, but my bowl of kolo mee has gone up from RM 2.20 to 2.50 in about the same time.

And why the RM has been weak? The US$ is partly to blame, but its also due to the fact that a weak RM is in the interest of the Malaysian economy.
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ohya kolok meee 2.20 to 2.50. laugh.gif laugh.gif drool.gif drool.gif
no comment; but in free economy; anything can be worst if you dont have enough reserve. sleep.gif
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post Apr 27 2008, 11:32 AM

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on the contrary, in a free economy, market forces will determine everything, which will be hard-hitting during the onset, but things will adjust gradually, as opposed to a planned economy where reserves are needed to artificially prop up or hold down the exchange rate
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QUOTE(ckwei @ Apr 27 2008, 11:32 AM)
on the contrary, in a free economy, market forces will determine everything, which will be hard-hitting during the onset, but things will adjust gradually, as opposed to a planned economy where reserves are needed to artificially prop up or hold down the exchange rate
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Ah. But:

1)What happens if the reserves run out?
2)Could the reserves, used to keep prices "low" be put to better use?

It may seem that subsidies help the poor. While that is true, any increase hits the poor the hardest in a controlled economy, while it is the rich, who can afford the offset any small increase, that benefit from a subsidised comodity economy.
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hahaha haya ur way of seeing it is very simplistic....but anyway.....the thing is i think the rising prices of good is all down to the increase of oil prices.....its just a chain reaction.....

anyway back to our aussie discussion.....i think in some sense vic public transport is still better than KL's....KL's public transport is more exp.....if u dont convert and just comapre the figures (its a simple way of putting it coz in comparison the ppl here n msians earn about the same figures in salary)
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QUOTE(bhypp @ Apr 27 2008, 01:20 PM)
hahaha haya ur way of seeing it is very simplistic....but anyway.....the thing is i think the rising prices of good is all down to the increase of oil prices.....its just a chain reaction.....

anyway back to our aussie discussion.....i think in some sense vic public transport is still better than KL's....KL's public transport is more exp.....if u dont convert and just comapre the figures (its a simple way of putting it coz in comparison the ppl here n msians earn about the same figures in salary)
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in figure maybe. In congestion maybe not.
Victoria is paying more than Perth in term of public transport yet concession not given to us Intl student.
bhypp; you live in suburb clayton, maybe that you say it is good. come to city during work/peak hr.. then tell me how good it is in those congestion.Forget about taking advantage on the crowdness include female tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bhypp @ Apr 27 2008, 12:20 PM)
hahaha haya ur way of seeing it is very simplistic....but anyway.....the thing is i think the rising prices of good is all down to the increase of oil prices.....its just a chain reaction.....
So, oil prices are the only sole reason for rising prices, in the same way Chinese in Malaysia are singlehandedly responsible for keeping the Malays backwards, and Indians are nothing but a source of trouble.

Don't shoot me as a radical. Consider reading Utusan Malaysia and Mingguan Malaysia, and tell me that is not the view of some of the people in power. These are facts, and covering them up as "sensitive" does no one any good.
QUOTE(bhypp @ Apr 27 2008, 12:20 PM)
anyway back to our aussie discussion.....i think in some sense vic public transport is still better than KL's....KL's public transport is more exp.....if u dont convert and just comapre the figures (its a simple way of putting it coz in comparison the ppl here n msians earn about the same figures in salary)
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Public transport in Malaysia is purposely ignored to make people dependent of buying a car to get around. And for many people, that means Proton and Peroudua.

I think its safe to say, that public transport in the state capitals, while not perfect, and there is plenty of room for improvement, is by and large beter than what KL passes for public transport, not to mention the joke of buses outside the capital.

Remember, VIC and NSW are the only 2 states that don't give international student concession fares for public transport.
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QUOTE(haya @ Apr 27 2008, 12:36 PM)
So, oil prices are the only sole reason for rising prices, in the same way Chinese in Malaysia are singlehandedly responsible for keeping the Malays backwards, and Indians are nothing but a source of trouble.

Don't shoot me as a radical. Consider reading Utusan Malaysia and Mingguan Malaysia, and tell me that is not the view of some of the people in power. These are facts, and covering them up as "sensitive" does no one any good.

Public transport in Malaysia is purposely ignored to make people dependent of buying a car to get around. And for many people, that means Proton and Peroudua.

I think its safe to say, that public transport in the state capitals, while not perfect, and there is plenty of room for improvement, is by and large beter than what KL passes for public transport, not to mention the joke of buses outside the capital.

Remember, VIC and NSW are the only 2 states that don't give international student concession fares for  public transport.
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Why not?
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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 27 2008, 01:43 PM)
Why not?
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simplify: we are cashcow for them icon_rolleyes.gif
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Now who's simplfying things?

There is a very good discussion on public transport fares: concession vs non-concession right in this thread here. Sure, international students are a source of revenue, but things have to be seen in the perspective of the Australian's.

To quote Limeuu:
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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 27 2008, 12:43 PM)
Why not?
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whether high or not, intl students will still pay for that.. good money for them..
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if u've read clearly haya, my statement is a reaction to kvr's that a free economy requires a large hold of reserves. personally i'm all for an open and free economy.

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