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Cruzer
post Feb 3 2008, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Feb 3 2008, 01:18 AM)
Now,Im scared.Do i need to start to revise my stuff before i go?
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No you dont.
Why?
because i doubt you know your syllabus ( lecturer changes what they deem is necessary and what is not all the time )
anyways different people handle their problems differently, some people are capable of studying last minute in uni and still get good grades (few but still exist )
but generally key is to study consistently and understand what you are studying ( dont memorise )

This what i do most of the time anyways .
1. after my last class , of the day , head to the library for 1-2 hrs , and make sure u understand what u just learned on that day ( if time permits )
2. enjoy your friday nites ( hey we all need to relax and have a break , yea icon_idea.gif )
3. If u can , spend some time on weekends to catch up on concepts you still dont understand )

therefore by the time exam period comes , you would have understood all your concepts , and all u need to do is breeze through your syllabus and practice tutorial exercises and your all good to go.

Oh and dont forget, consult your lecturer or your tutor if you are stuck in your subs. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 3 2008, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(Cruzer @ Feb 3 2008, 01:00 AM)
My first semester i had 1 first class honours and 1 Upper 2nd class honours and 2 PASSES

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I am not sure what uni you are from, but as I am aware, most universities in australia grade their subjects in terms of High Distinction, Distinction, Credit, Pass and Fail, not the whatever first class etc.

Honours refers to the honours degree undertaken by a student in an australian uni after completing satisfactory progress in his or her basic degree, e.g. a Bachelor of Science Degree ...
Honours degrees are not compulsory in Australia and if you choose not to commence a Honours degree, (or are unable to, as the requirements are generally quite high) you end up with a normal degree, appending the "Honours" suffix would then be fraud. I am not sure about this but I think non-honours degrees are suffixed with (Pass), e.g. Bachelor of Science (Pass)

Several degrees are known as integrated honours degrees, such as most engineering degrees and medical degrees. This is when you have no choice on whether you wish to complete a Honours degree but effectively is forced into it, regardless of grade. Of course, if you still perform badly, you will not get to suffix "Honours" to your degree.

In general, if one finishes a degree with first class honours, one is entitled to continue onto a doctorate, bypassing the masters degree. Second and third classes are generally not allowed to, unless under appeal. If one does not possess a honours degree, a doctorate can still be obtained but after a masters degree is obtained.

Unlike our Malaysian unis, honours is not rewarded on the basis of pure results, but also on a honours project, which is generally a short thesis on a chosen subject the honours student has chosen.

The information above is what i know, and may contain some inaccuracies, comments are welcomed and corrections are even more welcomed although prefably with some sources on which we can all look on.

Edit : I was browing through the University of Melbourne's website after writing the above post and realised that unimelb actually uses the first class honours etc system to grade its students... although it is quite an odd concept to me still..

Also to tam ironcup since your post came while I was typing the above post, I have to comment that some universities don't run all their units or subjects in both semesters. In my personal experience, as I am from UWA, students who initiate engineering studies in sem 2 tend to have a harder time as they don't have sem 1's basic units to build on... as if thats not bad enough, they still have to do the basic units when sem 1 comes around the next year, thus in my opinion, I wouldnt really recommended anyone commencing UWA engineering in sem 2 as its really messed up.... no idea about the other unis tho..


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post Feb 3 2008, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(tam_ironcup @ Feb 3 2008, 02:04 AM)
hold on a second, doest a july intake mean that they would be learning from the beginning?
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The connotation that they would be ... but generally thats not the case unless the university runs all the basic units again in sem 2, which is quite unusual as theres only a handful of new students .. so what they generally do is let you study other level 1 units which do not require prior in depth study...
but the problem arises in that the lecturers teaching the sem 2 level 1 units generally will skip any mention of anything touched in sem 1 as they feel that everyone should still remember what they have learnt and repeating some parts or showing trivial working or theories will be rather boring to those who do remember...
Take UWA for example, the BEngineering first year is common to all students, and I will explore a mechanical engineering student's enrollment for first time in sem 1 and sem 2.

in Sem 1, there is the unit, GENG1001, which is Engineering Mechanics, which teaches basic statics and dynamics. In semester 2, those with civil engineering aspirations will move onto CIVL1110, Engineering Structures which builds on the statics of GENG1001. Those with mechanical engineering aspirations will take MECH1401 Engineering Dynamics, which is an extension and builds on GENG1001's dynamics...

So a sem 2 student coming in will not be able to study GENG1001 as it is offered in sem 1 only, but has to take CIVL1110 or MECH1401, which are extensions... while the stuff taught in GENG1001 is rather easy, the problem is that the lecturers will skip anything that was taught in GENG1001 to save time ( theres always not enough time) and also due to their expectations that u SHOULD noe it, they arent going to sacrifice a class of 350 people who did GENG1001 with repeats to satisfy the 15 or so newcomers ...
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post Feb 3 2008, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(tam_ironcup @ Feb 3 2008, 02:21 AM)
damnit, im quite keen on leaving asap after my a-levels ><"

gonna check up more on this tongue.gif

thanks lotsa soontheam smile.gif
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well, if ur really hardworking starting in july isn't that big of a problem, just make a few friends that started in sem 1 and quiz them on whatever u dun really understand, if all else fails, theres always the tutors and lecturer
if ur doing commerce stream, the basic units are generally taught all year round as the demand is high (ang mohs have a tendency to overparty in their first semester and failing)
any idea what ur going to do and where u wish to study ?
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post Feb 3 2008, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(tam_ironcup @ Feb 3 2008, 02:32 AM)
i;m gonna apply on 7 march(open day, so dont have to pay application charges, idp told me to come on that day XD ) for anu, sydney and unsw,

hopefully can get unsw for mech eng:http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/programs/2008/4423.html#progstructure

and what do u mean by commerce stream?
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let me point u in the correct direction
http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergradu.../2008/3710.html
the one ur looking at is offered by the australian defence academy... unless ur an australian citizen, u cannot join the australian armed forces tongue.gif
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post Feb 3 2008, 08:34 AM

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Errr, you don't really have a choice. 4-5 subjects a semester isn't difficult. It is the normal thing to do, hence recommended by the uni. The new visa rules doesn't allow you to extend your period of study beyond that recommended by the university except for certain exemptions on a case-by-case basis. E.g. in UNSW, a normal course of study is 48UOC per year. If you don't meet this requirement in a given year, you will have to overload in the following semesters, do summer courses, or risk falling behind.
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i have a question for those of you guys who stay in sydney. is waterloo a safe area? my sis has an application pending, if we get it she'll sign the lease next week. what we're worrying now is that she just heard from some friends that waterloo is not a safe place since its neighbouring redfern, which is said to be a high crime rate area. heard her say that waterloo is full of youngkies too, punks, homeless and such. anyone know better? appreciate it smile.gif
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post Feb 3 2008, 02:33 PM

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No way, Waterloo seems like a nice place to live. I dont know about Redfern but.
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I think Waterloo is alright, but Glebe and Redfern are notorious areas because they are mainly filled with Government housing. However, those places are undergoing development with new high end properties being constructed.
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QUOTE(chris_c28 @ Feb 3 2008, 03:20 PM)
I think Waterloo is alright, but Glebe and Redfern are notorious areas because they are mainly filled with Government housing. However, those places are undergoing development with new high end properties being constructed.
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Glebe is a lovely area to live in.if u are in the area,you should try Newtown,hellishly convenient for everything
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post Feb 3 2008, 03:49 PM

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Redfern has high crime rate, try to avoid the area!
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QUOTE(Cruzer @ Feb 3 2008, 01:00 AM)
well KVReninem has a point.
Uni level is tough
During my first semester i learned it the hard way. Lecturers told me to start studying as soon as possible. and i just laughed it off and said to myself
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Its not really true to say that Uni is that difficult. Its mainly a matter of discipline, that's all.

Its not a matter of start studying early or anything like that, mainly its just that you'll need to keep up with the work at all times (which is not that difficult, you just need to discipline yourself, that's it).


Added on February 3, 2008, 4:51 pm
QUOTE(Cruzer @ Feb 3 2008, 01:33 AM)
No you dont.
Why?
because  i doubt you know your syllabus ( lecturer changes what they deem is necessary and what is not  all the time )
anyways different people handle their problems differently, some people are capable of studying last minute in uni and still get good grades (few but still exist )
but generally key is to study consistently and understand what you are studying ( dont memorise )
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And this is not really true either. Subject outlines would have been made available already right at the start of the semester, and these days, lecture notes r already downloadable from the internet weeks in advance.

Its recommended to go through the lecture slides even before the lecture itself, and if you're to look properly, for some lectures, there will also be a list of prescribed readings to be done before you enter the lecture theater.



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post Feb 4 2008, 12:37 AM

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hey guys... im kind of new here...
im going to aussie, sydney by 14feb...
studying in macquarie university..
i used to apply for uni's apartment, however its fully booked....
therefore i have to rent a room by myself,
i have browsed through those agent's website.
but i still prefer to take a look by myself before i sign up...
by the way, when im signing the agreetment, what are the term and conditions that i should pay attention at.
and will i be too late as i only look for accomodation when i reach there?
im going to study in macquarie uni, so any recommended place for me to stay, i have heard of north hyde and macquarie parkland.
so who will be studying in macquarie? i dont think many people study there.. aikss.... im going there by myself!!

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if possible, look for something like a boarding house (term?) where all the internet access, utilities are already connected for u. that way, u can have time to look for a decent place while u're studying. i doubt 2 weeks is enough for u to look for a decent place as the demand is really high during that period

above all, sign a 6 months lease if possible, that way u can bail out sooner if needed be

and again, to shop for ISP go to http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc-plan.cfm
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QUOTE(jiahuilee @ Feb 1 2008, 10:39 PM)
Hi,

I am studying in UWA engineering 2nd year student.

Willing to provide any information related to UWA or perth!

Cheers!
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i'm willing help u out with additional infos on Perth, also on Curtin, Curtin Business School ! biggrin.gif

currently doing my 3rd year in Commerce (IT & IS) in Curtin.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


anyone else from Perth?? hehehe
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hey guys and girls out there in brissy. i'm goin to throw a barbie party the week before uni starts or on the weekend of wk1. it's a great way to make friends. anyone interested?
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QUOTE(vintec @ Feb 4 2008, 11:39 AM)
hey guys and girls out there in brissy. i'm goin to throw a barbie party the week before uni starts or on the weekend of wk1. it's a great way to make friends. anyone interested?
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vintec; can ya provide me a quick guide about living in brissy.
Pm Me, waiting for your reply icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on February 4, 2008, 11:27 am
QUOTE(Cruzer @ Feb 3 2008, 02:00 AM)
well KVReninem has a point.
Uni level is tough
During my first semester i learned it the hard way. Lecturers told me to start studying as soon as possible. and i just laughed it off and said to myself
" Thats what my lecturers at Alevels told me, and i studied a week b4 my exam and ace the exams no problem"
Boy o Boy did i get bitten in the ass in uni.
My first semester i had 1 first class honours and 1 Upper 2nd class honours and 2 PASSES
WHy? i toke my alevels last minute studying habits to uni as well.i almost failed those 2 subjects cause i only had time to concentrate on 2.
To be honest, while studying last minute for my semester , i sorta had a temporary break down and was close to seeking counseling due to the sheer pressure of time. Couple of my friends were unfortunate and they failed their subjects in 1 st semester itself and trust me you DONT want to repeat subjects)

So 2nd semester , i decided to change my ways, studied more consistently( not as consistent as i planned) , kept up with my understanding and workload . and come 2nd semester finals, i didnt feel any pressure nor had any temporary breakdown. Managed to pull off 2 upper class 2nd class honours and 2 first class honours". Not the best results in the world, but its definitely as start.

SO anyways my point is .
Uni level is hard. Most students have problem keeping up with 4 subjects. Too much too study , too little time to comprehend ( imagine 3/4 of your alevels physics syllabus + more advanced syllabus in a mere 3 months with just 1 week of study break b4 your finals. Past Year Papers DONT HELP much.)But no , u dont have to worry bout taking up more than  4 years, if you are consistent, you work hard, chances are you do well, and you are able to complete your subjects within 4 years.

Im speaking as a mechanical engineering student btw. cant comment much on other faculties ( cause i toke a commerce subject and it was pretty easy to comprehend and exam was easy as well  tongue.gif )
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thanks peeps for the replies, but then again i've decided against taking up the lease in waterloo after i've talked to a friend who has been living in sydney his whole life. he told me any suburbs surrounding redfern wouldn't be good places to live in, regardless of the redevelopments (the house we got was new, brand new in fact, in a walled compound), cos his ex and his uncle got robbed 4 times and 2 times respectively, in the immediate surrounding suburbs. any ideas as to what are good places to stay? like about 10mins train ride to the city, with shops scattered around in the vicinity for convenience sake. so far the only location that i've found to fit the bill is ashfield. any other suggestions guys?

btw i'll try to compile something up for perth soon, if i'm not too lazy smile.gif
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QUOTE(jakesean @ Feb 4 2008, 03:48 AM)
i'm willing help u out with additional infos on Perth, also on Curtin, Curtin Business School !  biggrin.gif

currently doing my 3rd year in Commerce (IT & IS) in Curtin..  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
anyone else from Perth?? hehehe
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staying at currie hall, going to UWAFP. =)
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QUOTE(y@m@d@_iToE @ Feb 4 2008, 12:37 AM)
hey guys... im kind of new here...
im going to aussie, sydney by 14feb...
studying in macquarie university..
i used to apply for uni's apartment, however its fully booked....
therefore i have to rent a room by myself,
i have browsed through those agent's website.
but i still prefer to take a look by myself before i sign up...
by the way, when im signing the agreetment, what are the term and conditions that i should pay attention at.
and will i be too late as i only look for accomodation when i reach there?
im going to study in macquarie uni, so any recommended place for me to stay, i have heard of north hyde and macquarie parkland.
so who will be studying in macquarie? i dont think many people study there.. aikss....  im going there by myself!!
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as i have friends studying in mq, i have been there a couple of times..

have you tried muv? the macquarie university village..its quite ok i think..my friends are still staying there this year..so i think its pretty good..basically you share a house with 4 other ppl of same gender (i think so)..

price is fine..and there is a company supplying broadband service..if not wrong, its called startec..10gb for $30/40...i dont remember well..

i think for the first year can just stay in muv, its pretty convenient..can just walk to uni..and walk to the only place to get ur stuff-macquarie centre..haha...then you can start looking for house, if you want to..then you can avoid the peak period...which i personally think, rent might be jacked up!

good luck..getting to the city is about 45min..depending on the buses you take.. nod.gif



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