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 ☆Fellowship of the Strings☆Violin,Viola,Cello etc., ~String Instruments Lovers are welcome!~

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subangman
post Nov 18 2008, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Nov 18 2008, 11:08 AM)
oh...ic...i didnt know that...is there a reason for that? blink.gif
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I don't know why / wat's the show behind the curtain... i am a very active person in couple of other forums (myBenz.com, Mamakspecial,etc)
where we will share within the circle of NOD budderhood !

Anyway every house got their own rules..... thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by subangman: Nov 18 2008, 09:46 PM
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post Nov 18 2008, 04:39 PM

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lol?
why so serious?
since when everythinng become LOTR style... sweat.gif
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post Nov 18 2008, 07:15 PM

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hehehe...it's up to you guys.
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post Nov 21 2008, 06:53 PM

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Hello there, I'm an amateur violinist, started on the April of this year.
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post Nov 28 2008, 12:44 PM

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hello im juz wandering if you guys know where i can rent a electric violin?
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post Dec 2 2008, 02:46 PM

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yo!
this thread certainly grew! happy to see it's being healthy...

been extremely bz working and have been missing classes for more than a month but been practising ... thank goodness got a great understanding teacher... hopefully would be able to go class this weekend...

anyway heard someone wrote too old to learn... i guess it's not too old to learn.... i'm 30+ and started violin this year... yea maybe hand a little stiff but it's fun to learn...

heard there's an orchestra in puchong? more info?
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post Dec 2 2008, 10:45 PM

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storm...better late than never!
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post Dec 3 2008, 12:20 AM

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hi everyone~ im a violin player too ^^ just started on december last year ..
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post Dec 3 2008, 05:42 PM

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lolz...seriously been quite some time since i posted here...quite dead...
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post Dec 3 2008, 11:01 PM

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erm... got a question here ~!

how is the scale for A minor, D minor n G minor harmonic?
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post Dec 4 2008, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Amelyn @ Dec 3 2008, 11:01 PM)
erm... got a question here ~!

how is the scale for A minor, D minor n G minor harmonic?
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get a scale book and work on them. best, attend lessons.

seriously.

there're way more than just notes in playing scales on violin, than on piano. fingering, bowing, intonation, shiftings, just to name a few. there're quite a few way to practice scales.
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post Dec 9 2008, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Sep 6 2008, 09:09 PM)
a fine violin will have a soothing sound, and some also have mellow (darker) sound. once you heard a fine violin, you'll fall in love.

but that's just my assumption, i've come across many people took up viola because they think violin has sound that's too bright. tongue.gif

also take note that, viola need greater bow pressure (and generally much effort to play than violin) and viola is of course much heavier than violin.

you have your own personal preference so don't get affected by my comments above, it's all up to you to decide. smile.gif
1) empire might have some orchestra player's contact numbers under his sleeve. brows.gif
2) for viola, better get from orchestra players or your teacher. most shops don't carry better student violas, many are pretty cheap (you know, you get what you pay for). but you can sometimes find some gems from orchestra players where they have older viola selling for cheap but sounds good.
3) generally, yes. but when you're looking 5 figures and above, not necessary.
4) there's no fixed full size for viola. smallest full size viola is 15", up to 17" which is for giants. smile.gif
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thanks little ice! those are really helpful infos!
i saw a few in sg wang they cost like thousands!

hmm.gif i think i mite look out for mellower violins...

oh btw does heavier violins produce mellower tones? bcuz i went to a music shop and they sell these full size violins
which are lighter than my 3/4 and comparing the tones my 3/4 is mellower... nod.gif
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Dec 3 2008, 05:42 PM)
lolz...seriously been quite some time since i posted here...quite dead...
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And now its back to life AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! tongue.gif

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oh btw does heavier violins produce mellower tones? bcuz i went to a music shop and they sell these full size violins
which are lighter than my 3/4 and comparing the tones my 3/4 is mellower...


Heavier violins meaning a diff type of wood which makes the violin? hmm.gif I'm not quite sure if it produces mellower tones though.. Cuz mine sounds harsh and rough lol.. Maybe its because my bowing technique is still not quite right yet.. Can't get me violin to sing well.. it keeps "crying".. unsure.gif



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QUOTE(yunnie @ Dec 9 2008, 04:15 PM)
And now its back to life AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!  tongue.gif
Heavier violins meaning a diff type of wood which makes the violin?  hmm.gif  I'm not quite sure if it produces mellower tones though.. Cuz mine sounds harsh and rough lol.. Maybe its because my bowing technique is still not quite right yet.. Can't get me violin to sing well.. it keeps "crying"..  unsure.gif
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lolz...had been busy lately with work and audiophile section...my brighter sound violin is very light...while the mellower ones are heavier...i think they tend to be like that is becoz of the properties of the wood itself...but heavy doesnt mean that it will be a sure mellow violin...so it would be best if you try them yourself...
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post Dec 10 2008, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Dec 10 2008, 12:20 PM)
lolz...had been busy lately with work and audiophile section...my brighter sound violin is very light...while the mellower ones are heavier...i think they tend to be like that is becoz of the properties of the wood itself...but heavy doesnt mean that it will be a sure mellow violin...so it would be best if you try them yourself...
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as far as i experienced, you can't generalize that way. i've played violins that're heavy but bright, and light but sound mellow or even hollow. it depends on whether the violin is well made or not.
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Dec 10 2008, 12:20 PM)
lolz...had been busy lately with work and audiophile section...my brighter sound violin is very light...while the mellower ones are heavier...i think they tend to be like that is becoz of the properties of the wood itself...but heavy doesnt mean that it will be a sure mellow violin...so it would be best if you try them yourself...
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thats why i typed this....
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post Dec 12 2008, 08:36 AM

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tot the types of violin strings used is one of the major reason for how bright your violin sounds, no? hmm.gif
different string brand also counts... even same brand, same type of string, they have different types quality which produces diff type of sounds

blush.gif sorry just writing what i gathered from the articles i read... no personal experiences as only change 2 strings in my violin.

but definitely heard some differences in the dominant g string compared to my original g on my cina violin....
not sure the dominant g string is defective or what but a little slow in response....
as for the second string that snapped, the e string, the dominant e really sound better than the original e string which was a little harsh ... blush.gif haha.. again my own opinion la..

some of the info i quoted from some sites :

types of strings matters ...
"Gut-core strings have their own unique sound, which is very full and complex with lots of overtones. "

"Many (but not all) steel-core strings have a tendency toward brightness. The sound is usually clear but simple, with few overtones."

synthetic core - "a string that sounded like a gut-core string but didn’t have the disadvantages of pitch instability and slow response. These strings use a core of perlon (a type of nylon) wrapped with silver or aluminum. "



e.g. synthetic core strings and sounds produced by different brands
"Thomastik-Infeld Dominants ($54–$58), the original synthetic-core strings, are still top sellers. The sound is brilliant and responsive, and these strings seem to work well with many different instruments."
"Pirastro’s first response to Thomastik-Infeld Dominant strings (see below) was the Aricore ($37). This string has a dark, warm sound, but can be dull and rather dead on some instruments. "
" The Infeld Red set has a darker, warmer sound, and the Infeld Blue is more brilliant. "




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first of all, strings will only give you 5% of the sound, 20% is the bow, 20% is the setup. the remaining is the violin itself (and players also make a huge different too, even on the same violin/bow). strings will only give you, the player, yourself the difference, it won't make much difference to audiences.

dominant strings are standard for synthetic core along with pirastro tonica. don't mess with gut core, the respond is even slower. the sound will go "barking" if you don't know how to play them, even a professional will make this happen.

strings experiment is costly, at least for malaysian. all are imported and good synthetic are generally above RM100, and a really good gut core strings can be rm200~rm300 or above. the most expensive synthetic core in malaysian market is evah pirazzi and obligato, both by pirastro, but they're around RM200 or over RM200.

generally, if your violin won't sound good on domimant, it won't sound too good on other strings although you might get some improvemen on more expensive strings, but it doesn't worth in the long run. many people thought they can get better sound with more expensive strings, in the end they waste quite some money just to find the right strings, and will end up maybe maximum around 10% improvement.
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post Dec 12 2008, 11:55 AM

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The player's the one that makes the whole world of difference to the tone. No 2 players sound the same.
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aaa yes. you both are rite smile.gif

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