Especially for a CITES I listed animals ie Geoclemys hamiltonii , Yniphora ....etc

Amoxicilin is good for most Gram(+) Bacteria as long as the dosage is caculated and administered properly !!! How you gonna measure powder correctly ( Overdosaged is common when powder is used unless a very good micro scales is used to measure amount ) ??

I have mention about amoxicillin being good for bacteria causing sickness ( no one doubt its usefulness against respiratory tract infection ) Its the dosage thats important - as it goes directly into the system and once its in it cant be reversed !! ( Overdosing can be serious and be noticed very soon ie a few minutes / hours ) -


And you come mention about
- Excess Calcium = stone
- Excess Vitamin = poison

Your above mention can be yes and no
First of all , all the above can be " wash / pass " of system if un-utilised unless some other mineral are there to absorb it ( calcium ) to form those white oxalate stone or into the fat to cause vitamin poisoning !!! And it dont take a meal or two for those bad to come out / affect your animals ( weeks , months or even a year or two to show up )

Of course prolong non-access to water for drinking or soaking will cause the tortoise to retain some body fluid and reuse it within !!!!

uzairi

If I am not wrong you are one of the Moderator there arent you ?? ( Chelonian section ?? )

* I dont take side and I dont visit there often or participate !!!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Apr 15 2008, 10:01 PM

Not trying to be expert but if you cant even tell the basic food item apart how can you be sure that your star is a Burmese ?? Told by seller or you really know how to tell them apart ??

A pic will be good - above shell and a plastron will be best to tell them apart !!!

But if yours really a Burmese Star ( More Tropical ) you could offer more fruits and some green deem bad for Indian Star ( Dry Grassland type)

But Kang Kong as staple ( daily feeding ) is a big no no !! I am not from around Semanajung thus not too sure whats available commonly in supermarket or wetmarket on a daily basis !! But most supermarket greens are not good as staple ( Sawi , Gai choy , Choy sum as FatCat mention will the the next best thing around)

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Added on April 16, 2008, 5:45 pmAs for the white shit They will be there in most cases just more of less depending on whats fed !!

Yes those cuttle bone are those sold in petshop for parrots !!!

Pic please !!!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Apr 16 2008, 05:45 PM

As theres sawi putih , sawi bunga , sawi ...etc so Ya Choy sum is a form of sawi But many dont know that !! Just a recap !!!

Sorry to tell you that yours is just an Indian Star !!! But will all make great pets if care diet given properly !!

An underside pic of its plastron will be great !!! But I am 95 % sure already !! The "star " on its back ( yours ) has only 3 or 4 " hand " !! A Burmese Star 's star will have 6 hand -

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Apr 17 2008, 05:59 PM

I dont think he intend to bluff you But the price tag should give some hint on whats being sold

Any price tag from RM 60 - 180 for that 2 + incher Star is bound to be an Indian Star

Burmese star babies will be about 10 X more !!! ie RM 1500 a pc

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/679140

The green tag just say that they are legally imported !! and can be removed before or after your license is approved !! Just a sticker can be easily removed

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Added on May 9, 2008, 11:13 pmOnly mean you can sell / buy them legally !! To have / keep them legally I think you will need to apply for license like keeping certain type of snake ie Ball python !!

But I am not sure on this do correct me if I am wrong !!!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: May 9 2008, 11:13 PM

OK if no one buy them and no demand for them thus noone harvesting them from the wild Will their ( Star ) population increase ?? Given their native homeland ie India is home to the 2nd most populus country ( also ever increasing demand for land for development)
Will there be more land to accomodate the increasing Star population ?? I dont think so even their so call protected forest / reserves may be converted one day !! See our own country for example those so call forest reserves are converted in no time as usable land used up !!

THINK what fatcat say about those CB star is it possible for smuggler to collect upwards of a few hundred hatchlings / 50sen Star for sale ?? CH somewhere ?? or that easy to find them in the wild ( If that easy are they that endangered in the wild ) !!

Try finding a Malayan Box( Adult or hatchlings) in our forest They are one of the most common of all Chelonian sp in our country Malaysia One is hard enough let alone tens or hundreds of them !!!

Makes you think , dont you of what the papers , organisations are saying about certain sp being endangered !!!!

Since spent so much on the project why not spend more to keep them for a year or two before release ( They grow real fast in these first 2 years )
* I work part time in an underwater facility thus I know how fast they grow even without manmade diet ie pellets


MAYBE releasing them as hatchlings will attract more attention as they are cuter at that size and more are released ( good for the statistic , outcome record looks good - image boosting )

As maybe they dont know how to raise them up and many die on the way and only a handful are released thus no good on the report card !!!

For example they can release 2000 hatchlings per season but only 200 yearlings ( 10 % made it pass first year )

A few things could be done to minimise "damage"
- No artificial food fed ie pellets
- No fix feeding spot / time
- Big big enclosure ie 10 by 10 ( ft or M if possible )
- Minimise human contact ( except for medication or manual checking ) So as their wild instinct remain intact

Try not playing with your pets for long period of time ie a few weeks to months - Food fed and water change only or if Tortoise just leave them out in the garden ( food place all over at different times ) and see what happen !!

Quiet maybe scare get "eyed" by department for having illegal stuff without permit !!!

I think many are willing but fear being " eyed " by department !!! BUT nice monster and thanks for sharing and good luck !!

I assume you refering to above pic / turtle posted by hong 123

You will not only bleed , might lose a finger or two depending on size of that alligator snapper turtle !!!

If it is that Alligator snapper ( my friend's and about 20 inch SCL ) in my avatar that attack you , you will lose more than just a few fingers !!!!!!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jun 6 2008, 10:03 PM

The Callagur or Batagur or something else ?? Any pic THANKS !!

http://www.ecologyasia.com/verts/turtles/f...hell_turtle.htm



This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jun 10 2008, 06:56 PM

Depending on size of diner !!

Smaller size animal need their meal chopped up or just serve the leaves

Bigger size animals will eat the leaves , batang and all no problem !

Nice Pig-nose turtle or many call them FRT - Fly River turtle you got there !!

No thats not Tungtung - Batagur baska !!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jun 12 2008, 03:53 AM