This is one of those test shot. There's props on the background. No need much touch up, i did a few tweakings in lightroom, this is the results which i liked

wondering... why take picture with RAW instead of jpeg?
IMO... downside using RAW,
1. we need to use photoshop to view
2. more space for picture conversion to jpeg later
3. duplicate picture
good side maybe a lots also....

sumtime use jpeg...sumtime use raw. but mostly use jpeg

er... simple fact about these stuffs...

Adobe RGB has a wider, or you can put it "hidden" color range. Colors may looked pale when u see it on monitor. Thus its meant for more advanced editing. But mess up the colors then you'll have to start over again, so careful tweaking is needed.

Its the opposite for sRGB. Has so so color range, easy during editing but you wont get the most out of your photos. Colors are "richer" on the surface for sRGB, but you wont get the most out of it.

I use Adobe RGB, then convert them with a ProPhotoRGB profile in Lightroom. Because ProPhotoRGB gives me the best almost accurate colors when i print them out. And if I want to post the photos online. I'll just convert the color profile to sRGB using photoshop once I edited everything.

Things you must know when before you do editing. CALIBRATE your monitor. Spend a few hundred on calibrating hardwares like the Spider2express or newer versions. There's a good calibrating hardware like the Huey Pro too. Cost alot more than the Spider2express. Once you finished calibrating your computer, you get more accurate colors.

Note that the internet uses sRGB, so if you post a photo online with a AdobeRGB as the color profile. Then you'll face risk of losing the colors. Here's an example:


So basicly:

#1: if you want to get the most out of your photos. Use AdobeRGB. It may look pale on your screen, but after a few adjustments, the colors are superb.

#2: Stick to sRGB if you rarely edit your photos, or you just do basic editing like levels and curves.

#3: Invest in a calibrating hardware. It comes with its own software so you can do easy step by steps on monitor calibration.

#4: Don't ask me about ProPhotoRGB. All i know that it has the widest color range known(for me). And the color quality of the print it produced is almost what i see on my monitor.

#5: Remember, if you wanna post your photos online and you're using the AdobeRGB profile. You can change them via photoshop. Go to Edit > Convert to Profile > Under "destination space" > select sRGB IEC 61966-2.1. Then save your photos. Then post them.

Hope this little info helps.

Other than monitor calibration, we should check the output settings when printing a medium, meaning we have to check the output color profile.
I wonder do you guys check that.

my try, red overdosed..

ha... you are so nice!!!   
but price no drop yet!!!   

Siggy is better than Tammy for the 70-300mm f4-5.6 Macro lens

buy flash 1st lah.

If u get flash, u can do alot of thing dude.

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Added on March 11, 2008, 5:41 am

go for Tamron brother.

Save ur pocket and this lens is much more sharp that 17-40L.

U can read through some review or test it yourself.

I tested already.

If u want to buy Tamron 17-50, pls buy from japan version dun not buy china assembly.

thanks for the very quick reply david ...i am actually more curious about what are the limitations on 400d during picture taking ... compared to the 40d .... saying ... would it be possible for 40d to take some pics that 400d cant given that they have the same lense which is "average" at best and not exactly "perfect" for the conditions at hand .... cause i know that even a sony erricson k800i can take reasonabily good pics at the right conditions(of course they r NOT comparable to a dslr) ... so the whole idea of going to dslr is to take out those limitations .... where normal cams wil not suffice ... and thus from that ... whats are the limitations of 400d and 40d on lets say ... a all around lense such as 18mm-200mm sigma dc os .... ( favoring this lense over the kit - may just get body )

No need to contest. Hehehee! The Tamron 17-50 F2.8 loses flat to ring USM and its noisy too. Like robots. However, for certain people focusing speed is not important if you're into general portraits. AF remains accurate in low light at F2.8 and marginally slower at F4. I've owned the lens before and that is what I have to say. Actually the performance does not differ by much. Because the AF operation is noisy, it gives the user an impression of slower AF. But I still say the ring USM is superior in many situations (depending on individual lens and model of course).

Hmmm the noise not bad, though its grainy but its not like the 350 where u can see color noise instead of film grain like noise

But now im not sure whether im going to get the 450D in the future or not, doesnt seem like much of an improvement =/

Wait for '50D' to come out la....

derek: Next monday perhaps? go where lim teh? as long as its in kl

by the time i have enough for 40D i think the replacement for the 5D will be out liao, i can hunt for 2nd hand 5D

Yes... everything need light to autofocus.

The minimum that my 40D can do is in Vietname street, ISO1600, f1.2 where the shutter only 1/60

And yes, autofocusing was bad and hunting....

But now I know how to improve my autofocusing at nite liao.... hehehe... 

Canon ST-E2 that supposed to act as wireless flash transmitter.

That thing is so light some more... WIth that, I no longer worry about very low light.... I think completely dark also on liao... 

I tested at similar lighting... ISO1600, f1.2 that only give me around 1/60 to 1/125... autofocusing no longer hunting... 

Oh... ya... it can act as master transmitter to command your flash gun too! 

It is designed with one purpose nia...

But because it transmitted those strong red light as autofocusing assist beam, and help a lot..., I tend to use it when I want to shoot with avaiable low light 

I like to use it... It looks pro like something interesting and high tech on your camera... 

How much you bought it TheVoip?

I don't know why my friends said the flash beam too harsh. hahah

Already use diffuser. Can't bounce anywhere ahaha cuz was taken at the field.