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anbusan
post May 16 2008, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ May 16 2008, 11:02 AM)
Then keep us updated wink.gif

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I ask pet shop owner about that kibble and she tell me the food brands is VetMaster and not Regal hehe, do you know about this brand?
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post May 16 2008, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ May 16 2008, 05:15 PM)
Ohh, I didn't watch that series sweat.gif

Hmm, I think lying down like that, Oren looks bigger wor...

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thats the reason why i said before, i cannot believe Oren is 3.75kg. Maybe he has small body size. because Abang has bigger bone. My friends selalu buat lawak kata, maybe Abang's ball is heavier than his body, then i said, Abang has no balls. laugh.gif they laugh like no tomorrow biggrin.gif

anyway, lama tak tengok Oren punya picture. Kinda miss him.. picture of the jambu boy please wink.gif


Added on May 16, 2008, 10:35 pm
QUOTE(anbusan @ May 16 2008, 07:54 PM)
I ask pet shop owner about that kibble and she tell me the food brands is VetMaster and not Regal hehe, do you know about this brand?
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never come across about VetMaster product. Maybe they have other manufacturer name. Like Purina they have alot of other brand name. I did try to search dekat google, but do not found anything on this cat food name.

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post May 17 2008, 07:05 AM

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guys, when is the best time to neutering a male cat?
my Hitam is only about 3 months, have to wait untill how old arr? hmm.gif

maybe this weekend nak adopt 1 more kitten la kat SPCA..
selalu Hitam look kinda boring, coz xde kawan nak main.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 17 2008, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(udin_014 @ May 17 2008, 07:05 AM)
guys, when is the best time to neutering a male cat?
my Hitam is only about 3 months, have to wait untill how old arr?  hmm.gif

maybe this weekend nak adopt 1 more kitten la kat SPCA..
selalu Hitam look kinda boring, coz xde kawan nak main..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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4 months and above + vaccine = can kembiri already.

try to adopt the same age one, and get a female cat.
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post May 17 2008, 11:49 AM

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yah, better get a female one.

if not happen like mine, i got male adult cat and then i adopt 2 male cats. one of the cats become like female, asyik kene attack mcm nak mengawan...kesian jadi gay~
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QUOTE(SayuriKimura @ May 17 2008, 11:49 AM)
yah, better get a female one.

if not happen like mine, i got male adult cat and then i adopt 2 male cats. one of the cats become like female, asyik kene attack mcm nak mengawan...kesian jadi gay~
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no.. actually the problem will occur is territory management 101 tongue.gif

in your case, all you need to do is neuter the male cat, so another male cat won't kena rogol.

the problem of having 2 or male cat in one house is territory problem. It is the nature of a male cat to fight over territory. Unless u have 2 or more male cat that grew up together from kitten.

Like my case, there is 3 male cats here. Adult A, Kitten B, Kitten C.

Adult A is the first male cat, so i brought Kitten B when he is very small like 2 weeks. I let the Adult A watch Kitten B grew up in cage. When Kitten B is about 3 months, i let him play in the house, with Adult A watching. Im lucky because Adult A is a type of cat that do not disturb other cat. So they grew up together in the same house and have no territory problem.

Then suddently Kitten C come over, his age is about 6-7 month that time. Both Adult A and Kitten B was so angry and start bully Kitten C. I have to put Kitten C in cage, and Adult A and Kitten B was like surrounding that cage, and start to slap the cage. woah!

That is the reason why, some people do not want to get too many Male cats in one house tongue.gif

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Same goes to fish.. like guppy.. they said, 1 male need atleast 3 females. If you have 2 males, and 2 females. the males will kill each other, or the male will just kill the females. Gosh! shocking.gif no wonder my guppies keep dying tongue.gif

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post May 17 2008, 01:20 PM

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waa.. nice info.. but my kitten is very active. i mean kalo main2 pun kasar2 la.. flex.gif
so, im worried kalo female kitten cannot tahan nnt lor.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(udin_014 @ May 17 2008, 01:20 PM)
waa.. nice info.. but my kitten is very active. i mean kalo main2 pun kasar2 la..  flex.gif
so, im worried kalo female kitten cannot tahan nnt lor..  hmm.gif
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yes normally the adult will afraid of kitten because they are naughty... female kitten pun boleh tahan nakal. as long as it is a kitten, they will always be naughty tongue.gif
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QUOTE(udin_014 @ May 17 2008, 01:20 PM)
waa.. nice info.. but my kitten is very active. i mean kalo main2 pun kasar2 la..  flex.gif
so, im worried kalo female kitten cannot tahan nnt lor..  hmm.gif
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same with my cat ah huhu one of them botak dekat kawasan mata ke telinga sbb kene tendang macam kuda ahaha


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QUOTE(elfreakz @ May 16 2008, 09:53 PM)
never come across about VetMaster product. Maybe they have other manufacturer name. Like Purina they have alot of other brand name. I did try to search dekat google, but do not found anything on this cat food name.
hurm maybe, kene pergi sendiri utk check next time ehehe

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ May 16 2008, 09:53 PM)
My friends selalu buat lawak kata, maybe Abang's ball is heavier than his body, then i said, Abang has no balls.  laugh.gif they laugh like no tomorrow biggrin.gif
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This really made me laugh laugh.gif

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ May 17 2008, 12:00 PM)
no.. actually the problem will occur is territory management 101 tongue.gif

in your case, all you need to do is neuter the male cat, so another male cat won't kena rogol.

the problem of having 2 or male cat in one house is territory problem. It is the nature of a male cat to fight over territory. Unless u have 2 or more male cat that grew up together from kitten.

Like my case, there is 3 male cats here. Adult A, Kitten B, Kitten C.

Adult A is the first male cat, so i brought Kitten B when he is very small like 2 weeks. I let the Adult A watch Kitten B grew up in cage. When Kitten B is about 3 months, i let him play in the house, with Adult A watching. Im lucky because Adult A is a type of cat that do not disturb other cat. So they grew up together in the same house and have no territory problem.

Then suddently Kitten C come over, his age is about 6-7 month that time. Both Adult A and Kitten B was so angry and start bully Kitten C. I have to put Kitten C in cage, and Adult A and Kitten B was like surrounding that cage, and start to slap the cage. woah!

That is the reason why, some people do not want to get too many Male cats in one house tongue.gif

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Same goes to fish.. like guppy.. they said, 1 male need atleast 3 females. If you have 2 males, and 2 females. the males will kill each other, or the male will just kill the females. Gosh!  shocking.gif no wonder my guppies keep dying tongue.gif
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shocking.gif no wonder my guppy all died lah

QUOTE(elfreakz @ May 17 2008, 01:25 PM)
yes normally the adult will afraid of kitten because they are naughty... female kitten pun boleh tahan nakal. as long as it is a kitten, they will always be naughty tongue.gif
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until what age do you call them kittens? my cat is about 1 year old now O.O


btw ---- cat biscuit or canned food is better? unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(OctoberFly @ May 17 2008, 06:44 PM)
shocking.gif  no wonder my guppy all died lah
until what age do you call them kittens? my cat is about 1 year old now O.O
btw ---- cat biscuit or canned food is better?  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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kitten from day 1 until 1 year old. Then change become Adult already.

Hmm the best food is actually chicken or meat. Canned food is also good, but they don't bring so much nutrition, protein, and fat. Some more too much canned food can also bring mouth disease like bad breath and problem with teeth. Biscuit is the best food with good price. Since chicken and meat is so expensive. Unless you have chicken or cow farm eheheh laugh.gif Super premium cat biscuit food has good nutrition, fat and protein.

You can give both, daily biscuit. and Canned food maybe 3 times a week or chicken/meat 3 times a week.

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post May 17 2008, 08:02 PM

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this is description for OK CAT a.k.a king ficsher food cat, do you think it's ok or not for our cat?

FISH & RICE Mix
Complete nutrition formula with fish and rice for cats of all ages.*Low magnesium content to prevent risk of kidney stones.*Rich in Omega 3 and 6 to help the immune system and shiny coat.*Contains Taurine for protection of eye sight and heart. It is rich in Vitamin E as natural preserver and antioxidant.This very appetizing and highly digestible formula satisfies the nutritional needs of your cat and guarantees a perfect physical shape and the maintenance of perfect health.
Ingredients
Cereals (of wich min. 5% rice in natural kibble), meat and derivatives, derivatives of vegetable origin, fish and fish derivatives (tuna min. 10% in natural kibble), oils and fats, minerals, vegetable, Taurine (0,10%), Vitamine E, ECC additives.
Guaranteed analysis
vit. A...................................................... 20.000 I.U.
vit. D3.......................................................1.500 I.U.
vit. E (alpha tocopherol)...............................165 mg.
Copper (coper sulphate)..................................6 mg.
Nutritional analysis S.T.Q.
Crude,protein.................................................32,00%
Crude oil and fats...........................................12,50%
Crude fibre.......................................................2,50%
Crude ash........................................................9,00%
Moisture...........................................................8.00%
Taurine..........................................................0,10%
Magnesium........................................................0,15%
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QUOTE(anbusan @ May 17 2008, 08:02 PM)
this is description for OK CAT a.k.a king ficsher food cat, do you think it's ok or not for our cat?

  FISH & RICE Mix
Complete nutrition formula with fish and rice for cats of all ages.*Low magnesium content to prevent risk of kidney stones.*Rich in Omega 3 and 6 to help the immune system and shiny coat.*Contains Taurine for protection of eye sight and heart. It is rich in Vitamin E as natural preserver and antioxidant.This very appetizing and highly digestible formula satisfies the nutritional needs of your cat and guarantees a perfect physical shape and the maintenance of perfect health.
Ingredients
Cereals (of wich min. 5% rice in natural kibble), meat and derivatives, derivatives of vegetable origin, fish and fish derivatives (tuna min. 10% in natural kibble), oils and fats, minerals, vegetable, Taurine (0,10%), Vitamine E, ECC additives.
Guaranteed analysis
vit. A...................................................... 20.000 I.U.
vit. D3.......................................................1.500 I.U.
vit. E (alpha tocopherol)...............................165 mg.
Copper (coper sulphate)..................................6 mg.
Nutritional analysis S.T.Q.
Crude,protein.................................................32,00%
Crude oil and fats...........................................12,50%
Crude fibre.......................................................2,50%
Crude ash........................................................9,00%
Moisture...........................................................8.00%
Taurine..........................................................0,10%
Magnesium........................................................0,15%
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how much does this cost? if the same as iams, i will just for iams/proformance/blackwood. because i think they have better ingredients, protein and fat.
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post May 17 2008, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ May 17 2008, 08:50 PM)
how much does this cost? if the same as iams, i will just for iams/proformance/blackwood. because i think they have better ingredients, protein and fat.
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in muar RM10 per kg, if OK CAT better than frieskis and whiskas I think I want mix OK CAT with iams or blackwood for awhile. x keje lai la ni huhu
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QUOTE(anbusan @ May 17 2008, 09:12 PM)
in muar RM10 per kg, if OK CAT better than frieskis and whiskas I think I want mix OK CAT with iams or blackwood for awhile. x keje lai la ni huhu
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eheheh Aksi Murai, Tak Ada Kerja, Cari Kerja .. La la la Kerja lah eheheheh hati hati kalau nak mix makanan ni, takut nanti your cat kena cirit berit sebab perut tak tahan. Setiap makanan ada ingredient dan bahan dia sendiri kan. Nak tukar makanan pun tak boleh mengejut.
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post May 17 2008, 09:33 PM

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haha x dek jodoh yg melekat lai, melekat aku keje le dalam masa terdekat ni insyaAllah huhu.
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QUOTE(anbusan @ May 17 2008, 08:02 PM)
this is description for OK CAT a.k.a king ficsher food cat, do you think it's ok or not for our cat?

  FISH & RICE Mix
Cereals (of wich min. 5% rice in natural kibble), meat and derivatives, derivatives of vegetable origin, fish and fish derivatives (tuna min. 10% in natural kibble), oils and fats, minerals, vegetable, Taurine (0,10%), Vitamine E, ECC additives.
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Hi, allow me to explain why this food is actually a very bad quality food with very little benefit to your cat

The first ingredient is Cereal, this is not good. It means that this food is mostly made up of cereal which will make your pet feel full but has no benefit. Cat foods with a high grain content have been linked to kidney problems.
Cats are carnivores so they need meat, they cannot get what they need from cereal.
The first ingredient in a pet food should be a specific type of meat.

The second ingredient is meat and derivatives, this is bad because they do not tell you what type of meat it is. They do not even tell you what form of derivative it is, This means the meat is mystery meat by product of very low quality. Since they do not specify what it is the company is probably just buying whatever cheapest scraps they can get their hands on.BASICALLY YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE FEEDING YOUR CAT.

The meat in your pet food should always be listed as Chicken, Beef, Chicken meal, Beef meal etc.
Meat derivatives should be listed as Chicken fat etc

The same goes for the vegetable and derivatives, fish and derivatives, they do not tell you what it really is.

Compare this with the ingredients listed in rands like Orijen as an example.

Deboned chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, russet potato, lake whitefish, chicken fat, sweet potato, whole eggs,deboned turkey, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, salmon, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, sun-cured alfalfa, dried brown kelp, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, apples, psyllium, dulse, glucosamine Hcl, cranberries, black currants, rosemary extract, chondroitin sulfate, sea salt.

The meat sources come first, and they tell you exactly what animals it comes from, they tell you exactly what the derivatives are. and exactly what kind of vegetables.


I understand that Hollistic brands like Orijen are expensive, but feeding something like OK CAT will only save you money in the short term, later on your cat will get health problems because of such a bad diet and you will have to spend alot of money on his medical treatment.


Feeding cheap brands like OK CAT, Whiskas, Friskies is like a human eating chicken flavored twisties everyday for all meals.

Feeding middle quality brands like Royal Canin, Sience Diet is like eating chicken nuggets, sausage etc.

Feeding Hollistic brands like Innova, Orijen is like a human eating your mothers home cooked roasted chicken.




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QUOTE(Cimredopyh @ May 17 2008, 10:12 PM)
Hi, allow me to explain why this food is actually a very bad quality food with very little benefit to your cat

The first ingredient is Cereal, this is not good. It means that this food is mostly made up of cereal which will make your pet feel full but has no benefit. Cat foods with a high grain content have been linked to kidney problems.
Cats are carnivores so they need meat, they cannot get what they need from cereal.
The first ingredient in a pet food should be a specific type of meat.

The second ingredient is meat and derivatives, this is bad because they do not tell you what type of meat it is. They do not even tell you what form of derivative it is, This means the meat is mystery meat by product of very low quality. Since they do not specify what it is the company is probably just buying whatever cheapest scraps they can get their hands on.BASICALLY  YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE FEEDING YOUR CAT.

The meat in your pet food should always be listed as Chicken, Beef, Chicken meal, Beef meal etc.
Meat derivatives should be listed as Chicken fat etc

The same goes for the vegetable and derivatives, fish and derivatives, they do not tell you what it really is.

Compare this with the ingredients listed in rands like Orijen as an example.

Deboned chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, russet potato, lake whitefish, chicken fat, sweet potato, whole eggs,deboned turkey, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, salmon, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, sun-cured alfalfa, dried brown kelp, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, apples, psyllium, dulse, glucosamine Hcl, cranberries, black currants, rosemary extract, chondroitin sulfate, sea salt.

The meat sources come first, and they tell you exactly what animals it comes from, they tell you exactly what the derivatives are. and exactly what kind of vegetables.
I understand that Hollistic brands like Orijen are expensive, but feeding something like OK CAT will only save you money in the short term, later on your cat will get health problems because of such a bad diet and you will have to spend alot of money on his medical treatment.
Feeding cheap brands like OK CAT, Whiskas, Friskies is like a human eating chicken flavored twisties everyday for all meals.

Feeding middle quality brands like Royal Canin, Sience Diet is like eating chicken nuggets, sausage etc.

Feeding Hollistic brands like Innova, Orijen is like a human eating your mothers home cooked roasted chicken.

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thanks for your explanation about OK CAT food. I know cat will get health problem if we give food like whiskas or friskies and I can't find information or testi from who already try OK CAT that's why I ask here.

anyway thanks again about you info.
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wow...i dunno that whiskas actually bad for cats.

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