Come come madman, mod with me before i leave for Aust.

the Zero looks very nice Maddude esp. for the very low cost. looks like a great value to me. me thinks Empire Dudes rite in that it can do with some mods. all these products stand a very good chance of improvements even with simple mods like caps changes.

i'd mite be interested in a meet up (if our schedules coincide) with the Zero vs DAH1 as i can also bring my super mod iBasso D1. i did a whole buncha parts replacement + a power supply upgrade the other day and its a pretty stonking change....& i havent even done any opamp changes yet!

think about it - Zero vs DAH1 vs D1!

we'll see which is the ZERO & which is the HERO!!! lol....

ps:for the guyz thats been looking at DAC chip specs, let me reiterate that the "HERO" WONT be down to the superior DAC chip specs but the IMPLEMENTATION of said chip and the entire DAC unit. theres plenty of old NOS philips TD1541s and TI PCM1704 R2R based DACs that kicks asss. witness the much admired & venerated Wavelength DAC series all of which utilize old DAC chipsets.

back to the old adage guys - IT AINT WHAT U GOT - ITS HOW U USE WHAT YA GOT

This post has been edited by scottiebabie: Jan 23 2008, 02:59 PM

Wow, ZERO vs DAH1 VS D1 ... If the Zero could achieve up to 80% of the DAH1, I would be so glad

would love to have a chance to have a go at the DAH1 man... of all the DACs so far thats the one thats enticed me the most

as for scheduling....almost everyone knows im constantly working. even today public holiday oso im in the office

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Added on January 23, 2008, 3:10 pmempy.... when u leaving?

and how long would the mod take

also estimated cost.

(DAC isnt mine (yet?) still undecided to buy or not to buy. very tempting but we'll see )

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 23 2008, 03:11 PM

You can arrange some meet probably during your MC, although it's abit annoying for cant speaking comfortably, anyway it's a audiophile meeting what, listening do likely more in action!

Considering the price is cheaper than your current fu2, that's downgrade man!

cant say like that man....price is not a determining factor of which is good or bad.

take Alien USB DAC for example. taht little bugger is cheap and can sound a whole lot better than most creative cards at more than twice the price.

like scotties been saying...its the implementation....

but like i also said in another thread...if i pick up the ZERO it wont be replacing my Fubar. ill still be looking around for a good DAC to fulfill all my requirements.

also like i said...there are pros and cons. which ill probably explain better in my review (once i find the time and energy to write it)

*Chuckles*

I think many ppl is holding back on the bulk until your review comes out

(me included)

madman, it time to do ur review here....

dammit...i really wish i could write the review man...i do.

but im so busy right now.... even today public holiday have to work

seriously, i would recommend getting it.


okok some points first....
soundstage is MUCH wider than my Fubar II + Cute Battery amp. which makes the sound sig a lil laid back. it also sounds "thicker" and has more body compared to my current setup. the highs arent piercing especially on my DT990 which is known to have very prominent highs (so it helps to tame it abit).

1 point though... compared to my Fubar II + Cute Battery II amp, the bass is SLIGHTLY lesser. which makes the double pedal bass slam for METAL abit lacking. but if ur music is NOT metal, i.e hip hop, fengtau, R&B etc etc. then this would do you good

EDIT: just to make things clear, this is still very good for metal. but im sort of a basshead. hence the comment on the above paragraph. also because im used to my current setup....but after a short while u get used to it. the difference is bass is very minimal.

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 23 2008, 05:24 PM

Leaving 13th, if you wanna do a full mod it shouldn't be a problem since i already know the ZL's general design rules so it's easy. Tops oso 1 whole day lah.

Cost for a decent mod would be 200-300.

whoah....that doesnt leave me much time to gather the cash.....will see how it goes....currently the amp still doesnt belong to me so modding something that aint mine...aint nice

will let u know....tempting

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Added on January 23, 2008, 6:26 pmoh by the way....is it possible to mod this to be able to accept USB input????

although i doubt it, that mod would be interesting

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 23 2008, 06:26 PM

LOL empy's offer is kinda interesting, mADmAN's heart is saying yes to him ...

Very dooable, but this will take quite long as USB to I2S/SPDIF converters usually come in SSOP28 or MSOP28 which is hard to solder and very hard to make a board for. Alot of thus has to be ordered.

I'll ask TI if they have a free evaluation board.

very doable? damn....lemme know of the availability of the stuff and cost as well....

damn this is gonna be interesting

decided i confirm gonna send to u for the RM300 mods though

wah,this thread so poisoning,really toxic.

maDman is poisoning himself...
I also working today la. Cheers to all 'workers' working today. Labour law never protect us.

labour law like never exist in this country,lolz.

FYI, Labour law only protect those who earn less than RM1500 per month(Gross). I think most of us here are not qualify.

By the way, anyone know wer to get browndog adapter? I only can find some at ebay..For 2 pcs, USD9.99+10(postal fee)..

This post has been edited by mikelanding: Jan 24 2008, 09:09 AM

Hi, brothers and sisters, the ZERO dac bulk just need another two units to kick start the bulk, HURRY UP! Anyway, a big thank you for you guys, thanks for considering!