To all the ZERO users, pls refer this page for some information regarding ZERO and the mods. It is simple.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/blogs/curraw...-amplifier.html
The ZERO DAC + Headamp (NO 56K), OWNERS!!! REPORT IN!!!!
The ZERO DAC + Headamp (NO 56K), OWNERS!!! REPORT IN!!!!
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Oct 5 2008, 06:14 PM
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To all the ZERO users, pls refer this page for some information regarding ZERO and the mods. It is simple.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/blogs/curraw...-amplifier.html |
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Oct 5 2008, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Oct 5 2008, 01:00 PM) That is a different mod than what we had been doing. it deals with output stage, bypassing the opamp and directly couple to the tube. Oh, so it's either one or the other? Can't do both together? Too bad. His review of his mod looks really awesome. Haha. But has anyone tried it before?What we had been doing is to change different OPA such as Earth, Sun and Moon (coming) to give different sound quality. By putting in Earth and snipping the output decoupling cap, ZERO DAC give a big jump in the transparency and detailing and accuracy, rivalled the sound of expensive cdp. |
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Oct 5 2008, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(FiSHjIGN @ Oct 5 2008, 06:48 PM) Oh, so it's either one or the other? Can't do both together? Too bad. His review of his mod looks really awesome. Haha. But has anyone tried it before? The ways you asked questions , give me the impression that your questions are more related to your assignments that you need to do in class, lacking the passion/appreciation for HIFI . just my 2sen opinion. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 5 2008, 08:19 PM |
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Oct 5 2008, 09:13 PM
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I dont even have the amp yet, i just want to know what mods can be done to let the zero reach its full potential so i can go hunt for parts now. dont start the flaming.
If you had the proper intellect to read, you'd realise i've never done any soldering before and just want to know what can be done before i go ahead and try doing it. just my 2sen opinion. This post has been edited by FiSHjIGN: Oct 5 2008, 09:55 PM |
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Oct 5 2008, 09:37 PM
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Sometimes expression of opinion is totally a freedom but to express it with strong words is really uncalled for.
Please learn to appreciate the infor already provided in this thread. |
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Oct 5 2008, 09:56 PM
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Wow ... cool down guys ... just did my cap snip (those cap around the RCA output) yesterday ... to my ears the difference is quite significant, lots more transparency till the level of abit fatigue listening to ...
Anyone of you agrees with me? |
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Oct 5 2008, 09:57 PM
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Why bother to ask questions, then yourself jump to the conclusion before knowing, as if you already have all the answers to yourself.
That sounds like a smart way to ask questions. |
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Oct 5 2008, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 5 2008, 09:56 PM) Wow ... cool down guys ... just did my cap snip (those cap around the RCA output) yesterday ... to my ears the difference is quite significant, lots more transparency till the level of abit fatigue listening to ... are u using headphone, if so, extra 2 cap need to be snipped around the headphone opamp.Anyone of you agrees with me? On my system, I dont really feel if it sounds harsh but it avoid the high frequency being roll off and hence more details. The sound harsh is coming from the vocals, and vocals lies in the frequency range of 2000 Hz. Perhaps yr gear in the chain has something to be improved or the recording is like that. |
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Oct 5 2008, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 5 2008, 09:57 PM) Why bother to ask questions, then yourself jump to the conclusion before knowing, as if you already have all the answers to yourself. What?! Since when did i do that? Are you even reading my posts right? You should say that to yourself, "don't jump to conclusions".That sounds like a smart way to ask questions. Added on October 5, 2008, 10:14 pm QUOTE(ccschua @ Oct 5 2008, 10:09 PM) are u using headphone, if so, extra 2 cap need to be snipped around the headphone opamp. So if we're using headphones, we gotta snip another 2 caps (on top of the 2 beside the RCA female jacks)? What difference will this make to the sound? Reduce the brightness? Personally, i dont like over-harsh treble.. Makes me have a headache listening to it..On my system, I dont really feel if it sounds harsh but it avoid the high frequency being roll off and hence more details. The sound harsh is coming from the vocals, and vocals lies in the frequency range of 2000 Hz. Perhaps yr gear in the chain has something to be improved or the recording is like that. This post has been edited by FiSHjIGN: Oct 5 2008, 10:14 PM |
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Oct 5 2008, 10:16 PM
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Oct 5 2008, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Oct 5 2008, 10:09 PM) are u using headphone, if so, extra 2 cap need to be snipped around the headphone opamp. I think most probably it's the less roll off high frequency, before the cap snip the highs just kinda extend like "dwinnnnn" now become "dinnnnn" Hope u guys know what I meant On my system, I dont really feel if it sounds harsh but it avoid the high frequency being roll off and hence more details. The sound harsh is coming from the vocals, and vocals lies in the frequency range of 2000 Hz. Perhaps yr gear in the chain has something to be improved or the recording is like that. So far anyone one compare the ZERO with discrete opamp with any entry level CDP? |
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Oct 5 2008, 11:54 PM
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To all Zero DAC lover,
If any one of you planing to install a super clock on your Zero DAC, KingWa JZ-1 CD/DVD摩机时钟板 could be a good choice. I have tested this clock on my marantz CD 94 player and another player it sounded very good, more dynamic, strong attack & thickness but a bit lack of transparentcy. I did a compare to my singapore super clock and Audio_GD clock sounded very close to my singapore clock, i hope after 100hours it can sound better then the singapore clock. (the singapore clock cost me RM800.) Attach below are some of the pic. This post has been edited by eddylws: Oct 8 2008, 01:28 PM |
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Oct 6 2008, 05:35 AM
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Hello everyone,
I was looking to upgrade to a nice soundcard (Auzentech 7.1) untill I bumped into this thread. So basically this is something like an external "soundcard" huh? I have optical output from my computer, so when I play movies or music from my PC, it goes like this? PC-->Optical-->DAC-->Analog-->Speaker (Logitech Z5500). Does it work like this? What about all those Dolby and DTS sound Movies? Can you get 5.1 surround sound from this DAC? I see the DAC only has 2 output, stereo? |
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Oct 6 2008, 01:05 PM
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It won't do surround sound, only stereo.
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Oct 6 2008, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(Jcvendetta @ Oct 6 2008, 05:35 AM) Hello everyone, nope this DAC pnly stereo i think nowdays those AV amp already have built in DACI was looking to upgrade to a nice soundcard (Auzentech 7.1) untill I bumped into this thread. So basically this is something like an external "soundcard" huh? I have optical output from my computer, so when I play movies or music from my PC, it goes like this? PC-->Optical-->DAC-->Analog-->Speaker (Logitech Z5500). Does it work like this? What about all those Dolby and DTS sound Movies? Can you get 5.1 surround sound from this DAC? I see the DAC only has 2 output, stereo? |
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Oct 6 2008, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 5 2008, 09:56 PM) Wow ... cool down guys ... just did my cap snip (those cap around the RCA output) yesterday ... to my ears the difference is quite significant, lots more transparency till the level of abit fatigue listening to ... I tried the zero dac/earth with my old Onkyo CDP ( those day cost about 2.5K ) entry player, using SS amplifiers ( pre /power ) and Jamo/JM Lab speakers. Anyone of you agrees with me? The gain is great, having nice and outstanding vocal , more transparency and more detailed in instruments , though using less expensive QED interconnect this time ( still need time to run in ). I see zero dac/earth as an enhancement to my system, less as a competitor to my CDP. Fatigue with Cap Snip? meaning it is anti climax ? So better put on hold , right ? Added on October 6, 2008, 4:31 pm QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 5 2008, 10:22 PM) I think most probably it's the less roll off high frequency, before the cap snip the highs just kinda extend like "dwinnnnn" now become "dinnnnn" Hope u guys know what I meant This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2008, 04:45 PMSo far anyone one compare the ZERO with discrete opamp with any entry level CDP? |
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Oct 6 2008, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Oct 6 2008, 04:29 PM) I tried the zero dac/earth with my old Onkyo CDP ( those day cost about 2.5K ) entry player, using SS amplifiers ( pre /power ) and Jamo/JM Lab speakers. Emm ... as ccschua mentioned, it's the more extended high makes me feeling abit fatique, before the cap snip the highs were gently roll off ... more easy to me ears, although it doesnt sound accurate The gain is great, having nice and outstanding vocal , more transparency and more detailed in instruments , though using less expensive QED interconnect this time ( still need time to run in ). I see zero dac/earth as an enhancement to my system, something likes value added. Fatigue with Cap Snip? meaning it is anti climax ? So better put on hold , right ? Added on October 6, 2008, 4:31 pm |
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Oct 6 2008, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Oct 6 2008, 04:45 PM) Emm ... as ccschua mentioned, it's the more extended high makes me feeling abit fatique, before the cap snip the highs were gently roll off ... more easy to me ears, although it doesnt sound accurate Thanks for your reply. I think i stick to the gentle high ( with roll offs ) , so that i could get some little naps in between the music. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2008, 05:24 PM |
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Oct 6 2008, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Jcvendetta @ Oct 6 2008, 05:35 AM) Hello everyone, If u are using PC player, u can switch to stereo out to DAC. If u output 5.1 PCM code to ZERO, it cant lock the signal.I was looking to upgrade to a nice soundcard (Auzentech 7.1) untill I bumped into this thread. So basically this is something like an external "soundcard" huh? I have optical output from my computer, so when I play movies or music from my PC, it goes like this? PC-->Optical-->DAC-->Analog-->Speaker (Logitech Z5500). Does it work like this? What about all those Dolby and DTS sound Movies? Can you get 5.1 surround sound from this DAC? I see the DAC only has 2 output, stereo? This post has been edited by ccschua: Oct 6 2008, 07:36 PM |
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Oct 6 2008, 11:36 PM
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Snipping the caps with Earth is still less fatiguing compared to OPA627 with no snip. If you feel the need for additional transparency, go for it. If not, don't bother
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