Hi brother darthbaboon,

I have to disagree with you that non-SLR can do what the SLR advantages. Here are few points that I can think of... which advantages go to SLR, and in most likely non-SLR like prosumer cannot do;

+ BIG camera attract attention of models in events. The bigger is always better. If they do not look at you, there is no eyes contact in your pictures. Same thing happen if there are a few photographers in a any event, let say wedding group pictures. People will tends to look at those BIG camera as they are the official one.

+ BIG camera feel more pro and will also drive you to better compose, play with setting like compensation and white balance. End Results -> Much better pictures. I see lots of prosumer camera people simply point and shoot. Even got nice scenery, it senget...

+ SLR can go very wide or very tele. All SLR can easily go way below 24mm equivalent. On full frame + sigmal 12-24 zoom, you can reach 12mm ultra-wide!!! Try doing that with any non-SLR camera.

+ BIG sensor on SLR with large aperture primes can lead to beautiful background blur. This is a no-no to any non-SLR camera. Refer to the picture on http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/612019

+ Prosumer camera might offer high zoom range, but thier tele range image quality always sucks. I had seen from my ex-S2 IS and ex-S3 IS, there tele performance are suck compare to EF70-200 f2.8 or EF100-400 L. So in a way, prosumer paper spec might be good, but actual performance is another story.

+ Bigger sensor tends to have much better signal-to-noise ratio, which mean cleaner higher quality image. On my new 40D, I can easy shoot at ISO1600 and enjoy very low noise picture. Refer to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/612019 on most of the ISO1600. Can you re-produce that clean result with your prosumer?


+ BIG camera plus some L lenses also make you happy and proud for some stupid reasons.     

Hope my words make a sense or two... 

+ Spending more on SLR also boosting our economy, which will help everyone in a chain re-action.

+ Sometime with BIG camera, you are allowed to enter media section for some events. Without the right spot, it will be worthless on how good your camera is.

LOL. Indeed, I like the way you put it.

To me, DSLRs have one major advantage, that is the Bad @ss factor.

Yo... Glad some one is human enought to understand my statements... 

Sometime the advantages of using SLR is hard to explain via words and pure logics. Some time it need no reasons. It is more like having fun. Sometime I also see people shooting with 300 f2.8 for potrait or fashion, which actually I think no need one la... But siok la.. BIG ma...   

LOL. Indeed, I like the way you put it.

To me, DSLRs have one major advantage, that is the Bad @ss factor.
Boost our economy? Not boost Japan's economy and make our ringgit value worse if we buy Canon or Nikon?
Hmm. I've never tried this before. You tried before? And will they give you a media pass just by looking at the DSLR?

have you even seen in one event, the models are only 5-6 meters infront of you, and suddenly one guy popped up beside you and use a Nikkor 300mm/2.8 to shoot? lol.

that time it was damn hilarious and when i found out, he just bought the 300mm... BIG ma.. shiok

hehe. i've tried once..but on different situation. at particular event, i'm try to find out whose the performer on the stage. but everyone blocking my view. then i'm put out my dslr..and everyone gimme their way

+ BIG camera attract attention of models in events. The bigger is always better. If they do not look at you, there is no eyes contact in your pictures. Same thing happen if there are a few photographers in a any event, let say wedding group pictures. People will tends to look at those BIG camera as they are the official one.

+ Sometime with BIG camera, you are allowed to enter media section for some events. Without the right spot, it will be worthless on how good your camera is.

+ BIG camera plus some L lenses also make you happy and proud for some stupid reasons.     

Hope my words make a sense or two... 

Oh yeah. Now reminded me. I was trying to get some food shots at the counter at Jogoya KL, then when people saw my dslr with L lense(fren's one), they all give way and smiled after I took the photos. .. --Priceless.--

I love your reasoning bro... And don't worry I don't look at the D40X with such loathsome hate anymore. ;p

Btw quick question to save me some precious time going through the thick manual :

I) Bro Burgaflippinman mentioned "There is a meter telling you whether you shot would be correctly exposed or not." Where's this located?

II) How to activate Liveview? Does D40X have it? Any histogram for this liveview?

Cheers!

I love your reasoning bro... And don't worry I don't look at the D40X with such loathsome hate anymore. ;p

Btw quick question to save me some precious time going through the thick manual :

I) Bro Burgaflippinman mentioned "There is a meter telling you whether you shot would be correctly exposed or not." Where's this located?

II) How to activate Liveview? Does D40X have it? Any histogram for this liveview?

Cheers!

I love your reasoning bro... And don't worry I don't look at the D40X with such loathsome hate anymore. ;p

Btw quick question to save me some precious time going through the thick manual :

I) Bro Burgaflippinman mentioned "There is a meter telling you whether you shot would be correctly exposed or not." Where's this located?

II) How to activate Liveview? Does D40X have it? Any histogram for this liveview?

Cheers!

I)And here's the prob, RTFM.

II) Want liveview? Buy D300, rm5.7k

Well if we all had time (and possibly attention span) to read and digest thick manuals/guides/self-help books this world will be an uthopian theme park, a lot of instructors/teachers/counselors/shrinks will be out of a job and there'd prolly be world peace and an end to world poverty, hunger and illiteracy at last.   

RM 5.7k for liveview and even more mysterious buttons and functions..... *run for your life!* 

I do feel... malu, when taking photos using my small normal digicam beside those who use SLR/DSLR. xD

Shy shy = less confidence = photo also lousy

All it takes is a little effort to find out how your D40x works or generally how all DSLR work which you wouldn't have come here whining about it telling ppl how come S3 can show you whether it's underexposed or overexposed while D40x cant. Rite?

No. 7 is your electronic meter that tells you whether the picture is under or overexposed when you look thru your VIEWFINDER.

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Added on January 17, 2008, 5:32 pmI noticed that you're joining the Birding outing. good luck

And to make it related to the original topic, tiny prosumer camera lagi teruk la.... Imagine if you dare to use a compact IXUS camera while others around with BIG SLR + BIG looking flash gun to shoot.... LOL...

The transition to SLR from PnS or prosumer isn't gonna be an easy one, but it helps to know that I'm not the only one frustrated at the buttons and functions landslide.

As I had expressed in my previous numerous posts that SIZE matter... Always go as BIG as possible... When yours is BIG (White lense, 300 f2.8 etc), you never shy to show... And on the other way, small things tends to be embrassed.

These teory works on a lot of things;

Camry, Accord is much better than Kelisa and Kancil.... S class is better than C class... Even kids that do not know the price of the cars can understand that...

Even our politician admit that some AV video was him, all because his size is OK and want to tunjuk. Imagine if yours is small, being captured in video, and watch by others... Do you want to admit it is actually yours? 

Hope my words can help in opening your mind to understanding the important of dSLR so you are not regreting getting one. If you want to regret, only regret yours are not big enought, and should get bigger one... 

Remember BIG is always Better.... LOOOONG also good.  BIG + LONG = VERY GOOD!